pedanticKarl, we will all miss you!


At 4:32 am on June 13, 2008, the following comment was made on this website:

Hello My Dear Teacher HotForWords,

Regarding the article, “Funny post about counting with your fingers”,
the video indicated is the one entitled  “Cookie Game”.
http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/06/03/cookie-game/

You cracked me up when you answered the  “Ten Blonde Science Fair Projects” with ‘inflammable’. I reviewed that video which is 20+ stars excellent.
http://www.hotforwords.com/200…..flammable/

.k.

It was pedanticKarl’s first comment on the HotForWords website.  Over the next 2 years and 1 month, pedanticKarl would make 4,970 comments, welcoming every new visitor to the site, participating in discussions about words, putting out fires, helping people when they had troubles with the site, even helping people when they had troubles in their own lives!
pedanticKarl helped me out when I was trying to figure out the complexities of the online world. He spent hours making complex graphs and charts to show me how certain videos of mine were affected by certain things on the net.  If I was stuck, late at night, with a complex problem, I could email him and he would always respond very quickly, no matter the hour!  pedanticKarl was always there looking over me, and it felt very comforting to have him there!
pedanticKarl was a very smart person.  I knew nothing about him, other than the image I had of a young, genius of a man who, rather than work, spent his days helping people, like myself, on the net!
pedanticKarl made his first video about me here, for a contest I was having:

He ended up winning the contest and I was able to give him an iPhone as his prize!  He continued to use that iPhone to access the HotForWords website whenever he was away from home.  If you listen to his voice, he sounds like a very young man, which is how I perceived him to be.
He then made me a birthday video with some of the other HotForWords students:

Then over the next couple years, he became an integral part of my life.  For the first time since arriving in the United States by myself, I truly felt like I had someone watching over me, that truly cared for me, and that was pedanticKarl.
Even though he did all these things to help me, and others on the website, he never asked for anything in return.  When I had a get-together at Comic Con last year and he couldn’t make it, he delivered a message that you see me holding in the following picture:

When I heard that pedanticKarl passed away last week, I was truly devastated.  I felt that I had lost my angel who was always looking out for me!  I feel like I have lost a member of my family and I feel so lonely now with him gone!
BUT, pedanticKarl was so good at making everyone feel good, even his YouTube channel has the following statement, “Don’t take life too seriously – we’re not getting out alive.”  So, in his passing, I know that he would not want us to be sad, as he did everything he could to make us all happy, when he was alive!
I miss pedanticKarl so much right now, and my heart is in so much pain, but if you look at the card he wrote me above, “sorry I couldn’t be there, but I’m with you in spirit”, I’d like to think he is watching over us all right now in spirit, as he did in life.
- Marina
pedanticKarl’s real name was Klaus Herzog, he was 62. Please, Sign the Guestbook in memory of Klaus.

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  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

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  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    cool… 1st on Karl’s page.
    I wish he could read what you wrote about him… very nice.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/leonard/ leoNard

    Thanks :cry: You are the best Miss Marina Orlova….GOD-BLESS-pedanticKarl!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/justinparadise/ jp

    i can’t believe this. i am in tears.

    karl had to be one of the nicest, most helpful and cheerful people that i’ve ever met on the internet. when i found marina and her community here about 3 months ago, he was one of the first to make me feel welcome and his involvement was something that stood out completely in demonstrating just how special of a community marina has created here. in a private message once he had told me that maybe some day he would tell me the story from two years ago that led him to add the chess piece to his avatar. i am so sorry now that i never took the time to ask him to tell me and that it took for this to happen to learn more about him. karl was a terrific person and probably the only person here who i noticed follow my new twitter accounts for love and peace on earth. i am absolutely the type of person who believes in reincarnation and connection to the spirit after death, but this news still makes me so very sad. i knew that he was older, but i never dreamed that he would be close to passing. it goes to show that you never can tell so don’t assume anything.

    just look at what he wrote for marina for his special assignment below. karl was one in a million and we can only hope now that his memory will live on as an example of kindness and the impermanence of life. we will always remember him for being such a special, special, special person. the world needs more people who care like karl did!

    June 21, 2010 at 11:41 pm
    Homework:
    Have I ever been a victim of a bully? Not that I recall. If I was, then it was for a very short time as all of the bullies became my very close friends.

    Extra Credit:
    Albert Einstein once said that the most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious which is the source of all true art and science. Albert must have known about Marina as she is mysterious and represents the source of all that there is, which is wisdom, grace, charm, joy, laughter, intelligence and most importantly, someone with a great spirit of compassion and infinite love.

    Like a rose which comes with thorns, many of us including Marina encounter the bully, a person that does not operate by logic but a person that is motivated by prejudice, pride and vanity. Marina may not always be in control of her external circumstances, but she has learned to respond to those changing circumstances. Marina has laid a firm foundation with the bricks that others have thrown at her and like a waterfall, she has channeled her own path.

    People may forget what Marina said, people will forget what Marnia did, but people will never forget how Marina made you feel. Sometimes it’s that certain Marina smile and that certain Marina look of her eyes and you know that everything is all right. Sometimes, all a person needs is the permission to know that it is OK that someone cares with a heart to understand.

    Marina, the best teacher in the Universe has touched more than a dozen lives, where she provides the conditions in which her students can learn. Perhaps it is not a world of good or bad, or weak and strong, or bully and non-bully, but perhaps it is a world of learners and non-learners.

    Marina opens the door for us to walk through. Perhaps, it is not so much that which she gives, but how much love that she puts into the giving. And, perhaps as Leo Tolstoy reflected, the sole meaning of life may just be to serve humanity which Marina does in her own unique and special way. As it has been said once before; “You’ve gotta love her!” Wherever I go I go with all my heart, as that is how I will always remember Marina.

    ~~~

    Rest In Peace Karl, we will always remember you and your being personally changed my life.

    And also remember what he said!: “You must submit to Life, Love and Learning!” I believe he was right!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/leonard/ leoNard
  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gunju221/ PaparazziKid

    I hope something didn’t happen to @beevee14,

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gunju221/ PaparazziKid

    Cat got your tongue? :lol:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/melikadothechacha/ Me Lika Do The Cha Cha

    Very nice tribute to PedanticKarl, Marina :mrgreen:
    I hope this is consoling to Klaus’ family.
    He was a part of our extended family,
    and is very greatly missed.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/doncross2bear/ doncross2bear

    Dear Teacher,

    Among the conversations that Karl and I had, I was meaning to tease him that his screen name was inappropriate. Webster defines a pedant, or one who is pedantic, as one who makes a “show of knowledge,” or is “ostentatiously learned.”

    Karl did not have an ostentatious bone in his body.

    In my experience during the time that I have been here, Karl was very humble in his intelligence. From day one, he always went out of his way to make me feel welcome on your site, and assisted me with any problem that I might have had. In a short time we became well acquainted. Karl ended his last communication with me, “Take care, my good friend.” That made me feel good. I considered him my best web friend, and I feel a great sense of loss at his passing. I do, and will, miss him very much. But remember, dear, that no one is truly gone from you, as long as you keep them in your heart.

    And please, Teacher, know that you are not alone in this world. There are many who truly care about you as a person, and who would do anything necessary to keep you safe from harm of any kind. My heart aches for you. Please let me know if I can do anything to assist you, during this time, or any other.

    It is true that a genuinely kind heart has stopped beating, but it is also true that the soul lives on, and I know that our friend Karl is in a better place than we currently inhabit. And yes, he’s watching. And waiting for the reunion, in God’s good time.

    My prayers for comfort from Above go out to you, and to all members of this Community.

    Hugs,
    Don

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/captainjack/ Captain Jack

    Very good tribute to Klaus miss Marina. :mrgreen:

    I would like to add that Klaus was a super big help with the TA team. Klaus had been helping out the team long before he became a TA. As you know, we TAs do a lot behind the scene work so our experience here at HFW is a pleasant one. Klaus was instrumental in that work. He was definitely someone I could count on to help take care of things when I was away or busy with work. He surly will be missed and not forgotten. In fact, I feel that he is still here watching over the site.

    Captain Jack
    LTA

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/leonard/ leoNard

    “We established our {bivouac} along the edge of the wood so as to get some shelter for our horses. However, the boisterous north wind had dropped as quickly as it had sprung up, and the great winter stillness lay on the land from the Baltic to the Black sea. One could almost feel its cold lifeless immensity reaching up to the stars.

    Our men had lighted several fires for their officers and had cleared the snow around them. There were logs of wood for seats. It was a very tolerable bivouac upon the whole, even without the exultation of victory. That we were to feel later, but at present we felt it but a stern and arduous task.”

    Joseph Conrad (1857-1924). Russian born English novelist. :arrow: :smile: ;-) ‘The Warrior’s Soul.’

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/ddoersam/ Dean Doersam

    Dear Marina,

    So sorry for your loss. The God of the Bible, your Creator, loves you John 3:16, Romans 3:23, 6:23, 1 John 1:9, Romans 5:6-10, 1 Timothy 2:3-6, Romans 10:9, John 12:47-48, James 4:7-8, Romans 15:4, John 8:31-32…This works. God is real. I have known Him for over 30 years and He is far and away my best friend.

    You are in my prayers.

    Lots of love,

    Dean

  • sniperskaya

    Adios, amigo. Via con Dios!
    Good tribute, Marina. Klaus will be missed.
    62 isn’t that old, just a little over twice as old as our dear teacher.
    Marina, I hope G-d sends another guardian angel to watch over you.

  • sniperskaya

    Marina, maybe for your next lesson in Russian you could do a series of words on condolences and expressions of sympathy in Russian as another way of honoring Klaus’ contributions. (You can always name your first male child “Klaus”, assuming of course that you eventually marry and have children.) ;-)

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    Marina, why couldn’t Karl, make it to the Comic Con? That would have been a chance to meet you. I would think nothing would have stopped him from being there?

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/impaler112/ VenomRocK

    :sad: Very nice tribute Marina, Karl was a White Knight indeed.

    Goodbye My Friend

  • Rijk

    a very good tribute.

    i remember kidding around with pk,
    Your comment on the post Going Stir-Crazy! has a new reply by pedanticKarl.

    Here is your original comment:

    Phew!!! That was a close one.
    Karl? Is that really you? Or… Or is it a trap? :???:

    Here is the new reply:
    Yes Rijk, you are right, I am always so deadly serious. I think I am back to normal now. That was a close shave with that knife. I think I’m safe for now. :???:

    our long talks about the site redesign, and how he would always make it into something positive

    Your comment on the post Site Design Followup has a new reply by pedanticKarl.
    Regarding your statement; “It sounds like you can nudge her in the right direction” I can tell you with great certainty that I am not that powerful. There isn’t anyone that I can nudge, except myself, and even that is difficult at times. :lol: If it seems like I can nudge, it is only because I can relate to Marina’s way of thinking and I am just acknowledging and reflecting her wisdom. Read the many articles that Marina has written on this site and you will appreciate her style of writing and thought process. Your comments Rijk are very important to Marina and your participation on this site is very welcomed. I always enjoy talking to you.

    how he help when i couldn’t get the site or forum to work. Going backwards and forwards with pm’s in real time.
    My homework-strike to get him a new friend. How he even than protected marina.

    Your comment on the post Nerd Word of the Day: Ridonkulous has a new reply by pedanticKarl.

    Here is your original comment:
    Shame on you Marina, Shame on you. I was just on PedanticKarl’s YT – channel. And its is dedicated to you. But your not listed a friend, not even as a subscriber. How could you?

    Here is the new reply:
    Hey Rijk, Don’t blame Marina. The reason Marina is not listed as a Friend is because I never made a Friend request. Now, you might say, why did Marina not initiate a Friend request and why is she not a subscriber? As you stated, my channel is dedicated to Marina, and I explicitly said, “Don’t subscribe to my channel. Subscribe to Marina’s website instead. ” Look at my YT profile again. Now, why would Marina subscribe to herself? :smile: Also, I don’t expect Marina to subscribe to me or anyone else just for the sake of subscribing unless she wanted to. Marina has a mind of her own. Don’t mess with it. :mrgreen:

    Pk was a persons person.
    Here is the new reply:
    Welcome back my friend Rijk! How have you been? Wishing your team best of luck tomorrow. That video with the orange – brown shirt was hilarious. Just two days ago I was thinking about you and here you are. http://www.hotforwords.com/2010/06/28/bargain/#comment-179866

    I pm’d pk the reason why i had been away from the site, strangely enough he didn’t receive that one. i never came to write him that difficult pm again. i regret that.

    Thank you Karl for all your time, help, patience and friendship

    i miss you my good friend, farewell

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/fglrx/ fglrx

    The HotForWords site will never be the same without Karl. He was a friend of everyone from here, always helpful and generous, and the greatest contributor to all Marina’s works, especially when it came to technical maintenance of the enterprise. The discussions with Karl on the forum and through the private messages were the most constructive ones that happened to me on this site. I remember the time when I came for the first time to the site and Karl greeted me – that was the moment I realized I would stay here not for a week or two, but for a much longer period of time. I know many other users had similar feelings. It was also Karl’s merit that we have so much users of the HFW site, he had a talent for taming aggressive users with peaceful and rational argumentation, thanks to him even some trolls were able to transform into good contributors.

    Karl trusted in people and their good intentions. Even if he didn’t know me well, he told me the history of his family (that was vary painful to him), just because half of his ancestors came from the land that now belongs to my country and he wanted to share the information with me.

    I am still deeply shocked with his death.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/fglrx/ fglrx

    pedanticKarl’s real name was Klaus Herzog, he was 62, and as soon as I know of funeral arrangements, I will let you know

    I always thought he was about 45. He looked young in his photos (maybe they were taken a dozen years ago). But also his writings suggested that he had mentality of a younger person that he really was. The only hint for me was that his parents married in pre-war Prussia, but even then I couldn’t rate his age above 50.

    But, really, he had an open mind like a young person.

  • samuel3d

    What happend to PedanticKarl? I’m really sad:( he e-maild me a couple of times.

    samuel3d.

  • http://youtube.com/jamesingtonthethird James

    Lovely post Marina.

  • http://youtube.com/jamesingtonthethird James

    I have been her as long as Karl. I cannot believe it’s been so long. It’s you that keeps us all here M!

  • wetsuit5

    Truely too shocked to form a coherent statement.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/docsavage7/ Michael

    I am new to this site, but one of the first things I noticed was how many posts pendantickarl made, and it was very obvious how much affection and admiration he had for you Marina. Losing a dear friend or family member is one of the hardest things to deal with in life. Too all those that knew Klaus, and regarded him as a friend, and to his family, I offer my sincerest condolences. May you all find comfort in your personal remembrances of him.

  • Damiana

    i’m very saddened by this news. :’(

    we’ll miss you karl. you were an integral part of this site.. it won’t be the same without you. fly high and free my friend..

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/leonard/ leoNard

    Yes it sucks… about Karl! I ‘m having issues with what I thought my was equipment; and logging in the forum. Then out of no where, we loose the only person that was HOTFORWORDS-assertive to computer issues…..Yes I even tried to set a forum club or group and the information sent was not ascertained???? :twisted:

    Remember a while back, Marina had helping her set up a new thingy like wordpress—-operated by Obama’s tech dude(of campaign not USA gov)—whatever happened?

    What happened to our court system and those spies?…judge,jury and traded secrets~~~~~~~~~~~~~! I think the democrat party has brought down America and the troops work for the industrial high tech WAR-MACHINE of POLIcy… My art is lost with caPITalism(greed)–grand dreams and you better protect the propaganda of MaSS Media and the old private monop0ly—————The american majority are hooked on mental diesease{dies/ease}—gotta go, keep in touch…..leonard…the movies, long or short, don’t put food on the table like family and THE VIllAGE Idiot…raising a family is the sexing of hollywood ‘Hard-Ons”… ;-) ps-the mind is in a social de·te·ri·o·rate (d -tîr – -r t ). v. de·te·ri·o·rat·ed, de·te·ri·o·rat·ing, de·te·ri·o·rates. v.tr. To diminish or impair in quality, character, …
    :smile: –[]–thank you pedanticKarl–[][]— :smile:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/leonard/ leoNard

    Amazing how the cyber world has {soul}…even at the ‘plastic-ness’ concrete reality! ;-) Bless all souls like a H~O~T-for-W~O~R~D~S(Marina) :smile: ps—welcome :!:

  • Rijk

    thanks Michael,
    and welcome to the family

  • Rijk

    yes it does leanard,
    it’s the people that make this site to what it is :smile:

  • Rijk

    hey sweets,
    no it won’t be the same
    liking your fly high and free my friend..

    hoping we get to speak on YH before my aeroplane takes off.

  • Rijk

    Hey CJ,
    PK will be missed and can not be replaced,
    But if you need help, there are a lot out here who will give you a hand when you need one

  • iluv2cutfarts

    I am truly saddened by this news of Karl (Klaus) passing. Everytime I came to this site, Karl was always here (it didn’t matter what time it was). In fact, he was synonymous with this site. When I would think of hotforwords I would obviously think of Marina, but Karl as well. There are no words to describe loss when you are going through the mourning of someone close to you. I did not know Karl that well, but in the short time I engaged with him out here, all I can say is that he was a true lover of words and people. He enjoyed people so much that he always found something good about each and every individual user (and for a stinky guy like me, that’s not an easy thing for anyone to do).

    I am encouraged by all the love and support I see out here from Marina and every one of you. I do extend my deepest sympathies to Klaus’s family and others who have recently come out to keep us informed. I will have you all in my prayers.

    I think Marina has put this into the best possible understanding that we can come away with. Karl would not want us to be sad – he would want us to take his example of dedication and commitment, and be more like that in every possible way.

    We get to enjoy and incredible forum with some incredible people. Lets not forget that as we move forward.

    Take good care of yourselves, and let someone close to you know that you love them, today.

  • thematrix75

    I’am deeply sadden by the loss of PK (Klaus)! He was loved and needed by everyone here at Hot For Words! Klaus was very smart, charming, witty, and thoughtful! He was always there to lend a helping hand, brighten someones day! He was a very dedicated to doing his job, a nd way beyond to help Marina, and everyone else for that matter! Klaus was such a great man, we will always remember him, and thank god the time we did have to spend with him! R.I.P. Karl :!:

  • thematrix75

    Very lovely tribute to Karl (Klaus) Marina :!: No one could have done Karl any more justice than you Marina!We will all miss you Karl,but you will always be remembered!R.I.P. Karl!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/captainjack/ Captain Jack

    Thank Rijk. Your right, he can’t be replaced. He did the work of many types of people. Coder, statistician, videographer, tech-support, greeter, oh the list goes on. Thank you for your support. We will be looking for more help in the future. I hope the day I explode in a fiery ball of flames and crash land that you guys step in with replacements right away. That is the way of the combat solider. Ok that was a bit over the top, but you get my drift. :-)

  • pig-in-a-poke

    Wow, I was truly sad to read the about Karl’s passing. My impression was that Karl was a very generous, likable and intelligent person. I agree with Marina that Karl was always willing to help, as he responded to some of my posts which I appreciated. He will be missed for those reasons and as a member of the HotForWords Family, something I did not appreciate until reading this news.

  • thematrix75

    Very great tribute song/video to Karl VR!It was very touching!Thank you VenomRock for this to show respect for Karl ,which we all miss very much!

  • thematrix75

    He had a bad heart samuel3d,that’s what happened to the great man Karl,he will be missed sorely by all!R.I.P.Karl may peace and love be with you always!See you later samuel3d,it was very thoughtful for you to be concerned about Karl,and thank you for caring!Peace!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gunju221/ PaparazziKid

    you forgot your

    “Iluv2cutfarts”

    “USA” thing

  • Rijk

    i’m gonna go out and get a fire-extinguisher. ;-)
    or would marshmallows be better : )

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/dimka/ dimka

    R.I.P. Klaus :sad:
    My condolences to his family.

    What reason of his death?

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gunju221/ PaparazziKid

    is your avatar a dude humping a walrus?

  • http://favstar.fm/users/CheVolay CheVolay

    Well said Marina, I miss Karl already.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/lennie/ Lennie

    Very well put Marina. I don’t know what else to say.

    (other then what I’ve also said on Twitter, if you need any help you know where to find me)

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/melikadothechacha/ Me Lika Do The Cha Cha

    The convolutions suggest it’s a brain :!: :mrgreen:

  • Greatest Potential

    Karl always made me feel welcome here. Pedantic Karl. Karl and I got along pretty well on site here and throughout the years that I became aquainted with the man we always managed to have some good laughs together and that’s how I will remember him.

    He was always attentive to others needs, smart, witty, a great guy, a tech support man through and through.

    Karl was very caring, had a lot of heart.

    Karl would appreciate intelligent forms of praise so if you are friends of Karl don’t hold back. He would want you to elequently have your say.

    Karl watched every HotForWords video. He watched more HotForWords videos than anyone on the planet, Janet.

    (in his honour that perhaps he gets a few chuckles out of that)

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/melikadothechacha/ Me Lika Do The Cha Cha

    Forum page in honor of PedanticKarl
    Requiem for the White Knight
    Stop by and leave a message

  • http://www.theendoftheinternet.com/ Chemikal

    @pedanticKarl
    I’m going to click the link and read back some of his posts. His knowledge and his wisdom can still be found right here on the website. You will discover, or you will remember the man he was and the example he set. He may not post again, but his 4,970 contributions are and forever will be his legacy here on the HotForWords website.

    pedanticKarl’s last post:

    Three Questions:
    1. What do you fear most in your life today?
    2. What do you love?
    3. What makes you laugh?

    Interesting experiment on July 24.
    Life In A Day
    A film to chronicle the world on that one day.
    An experiment in social filmmaking.
    http://www.youtube.com/lifeinaday

  • pat

    (pe-DAN-tik)

    adjective
    Characterized by a narrow, often ostentatious concern for book learning and formal rules.

    Etymology
    French pedant, or Italian pedante (French, from Italian), possibly from Vulgar Latin *paedens, -paedent-, present participle of -paedere, to instruct, probably from Greek paiduein, from pais, paid-, child + -ic.

    Usage
    “Mr Updike uses different names for his characters… But the name changes are jarring, and their flavour is pedantic, as if Mr Updike simply wants credit for doing his homework.” — Witty, wise, then weary, Economist, Feb 19, 2000.

  • http://www.tony-bernhoffer-photography.com tonyb

    That chess knight symbol of his was also a symbol for Paladin Press. But I am sure that was not him. I saw on American Justice Paladin Press published guerella-like manuals like HOW TO BE YOUR OWN HIT MAN!!! No connection there I am sure. It is interesting to see what turns you on Marina.

  • noobsaibott

    Seemed like a cool guy.

    Though he’s not “watching us from above”.He’s dead.
    It’s a nice fantasy and a very ‘politically correct’ thing to say in our society, but come on.
    Even if there was an afterlife, I’m sure dead people have more fun things to do than sit around and look down at us from above.

    Just wanted to point that out

  • http://www.tony-bernhoffer-photography.com tonyb

    He was like a grandfather to you, eh?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lSliucgygc&feature=channel_page&FMT=22 Capman911

    Marina that is a truly touching tribute to Klaus (Karl). He was truly a friend to all. I know you will miss him as we all will. You could tell he loved this site and you as he was on here every day. It want be the same not seeing his comments and witty remarks. I hope his son stays on here as a college and friend so we can think of Karl every time we talk to him. I am happy he was able to share his life with us all.

    Mike

  • sniperskaya

    Don’t think of pedanticKarl as being dead – just think of him as being offline – permanently….

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/buzzword/ buzzword

    pedanticKarl a long time ago alex and i made some sarcastic comment about hfw’s white knights. pk took that comment and made it a part of his avatar. i really admired that, he was a good and honorable guy committed to helping marina and the hfw site and was happy to profess that by using a white knight as his avatar. pedanticKarl was the real thing, a white knight, and hfw was better for him. i will miss him, his enthusiasm, and his graphing every fucking variable that had anything to do with hotforwords. goodbye pk.

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    As my co-writer, Kia Hellman, has written:
    Consciousness- minus unconsciousness- equals reality

    Klaus was rooted in his consciousness- not in the unconscious “you’re so hot” surroundings of this web site and associated celebrity/Hollywood nonsense-which the web site’s owner has, herself, escaped for a time as she returns in love to both her family and her place of origin in the gravity well that has captured all of our illusions of consciousness in its grip. I’d say that because of who he chose to be in this temporary life, PK’s consciousness is still unfolding, somewhere, somehow fulfilling itself in the infinite parallels of what can be for all of us, if only we drop the unconscious ego and illusions of reality and move on with being what we truly are, quantum potential reaching for Singular consciousness and understanding, temporarily trapped in this gravity well of four dimensions where our test is to unfold back into what we really are, via love.

    Speaking egotistically with the illusion of love: Marina, I hope your Mom liked the fragrance samples from Grasse I sent for you to give her years ago.

    The revised book, from Kia and I, will be done in a month. It unfolds with the above

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/melikadothechacha/ Me Lika Do The Cha Cha

    How thoughtful of you.
    Bless your heart :mrgreen:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    Marina, Марина, If anyone says anything nasty about Karl or takes concealed shots at him in their comments… can you please delete them?
    Even though I know you have an unwritten rule where you don’t delete anything… I think it would be an honorable thing to do in this case considering the amount of time he put in helping you and the fact that he is no longer here to defend himself.
    Thank you, jim

    iydndtiwlarfy

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/docsavage7/ Michael

    Somehow I get the feeling you don’t get invited to too many parties , huh noobs?

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    {psychopaths}

    They have literally no conscience
    http://www.crisiscounseling.com/articles/psychopath.htm

    I think the new estimate is 4% of the population or 1in 25

    Characteristics of a Psychopath…

    • superficial charm
    • self-centered & self-important
    • need for stimulation & prone to boredom
    • deceptive behavior & lying
    • conning & manipulative
    • little remorse or guilt
    • shallow emotional response
    • callous with a lack of empathy
    • living off others or predatory attitude
    • poor self-control
    • promiscuous sexual behavior
    • early behavioral problems
    • lack of realistic long term goals
    • impulsive lifestyle
    • irresponsible behavior
    • blaming others for their actions
    • short term relationships
    • juvenile delinquency
    • breaking parole or probation
    • varied criminal activity

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=what-psychopath-means

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/melikadothechacha/ Me Lika Do The Cha Cha

    That’s a whole discussion all by itself :mrgreen:
    Since this page is set up as a memorial to
    Karl, it would be nice for Marina if comments
    made here showed respect for Karl’s family and
    friends during this time of remorse. Unfortunately,
    there appears to be several new members who don’t understand this site isn’t all about them. :|

    Oh yeah, your list left out:
    • defecating in public places :grin:

  • nettehexe

    He could have made it but choose not to!!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/veritanuda/ veritanuda

    I have been sucking my tongue thinking about what to say as honestly I don’t feel that worthy to comment on Karl as I only briefly knew him (my loss). What struck me about him though was something I have come across over the many years I have been online and that is a spirit and drive to help for the greater good. The thing about posting to forums and discussion groups is that can get very heated and tempers rise and judgement clouds. It takes a special advocate to bridge disparate opinions and to bring them all together in a lively and interesting discussion. Karl was such a man.

    I know I have not been a hugely active member of the HotForWords site but unquestioningly the first time I did positively contribute Karl was right there giving me even more encouragement, taking serious and convoluted guesses, and even defending me against my own mistakes, which at the time seemed odd. I understand now that is just how he was. A defender of the truth, of clarity and understanding, something which I can empathise with greatly.

    I will miss Karl, if for no other reason than the lost opportunity to get to know a genuine, selfless and ultimately kind guy. There are not too many around and it can be a lesson for us all that taking time out for people is never a waste and if you can help someone with something and make them feel better about themselves or their situation then it is truly a great thing.

    RIP PedanticKarl.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/veritanuda/ veritanuda

    Actually that is also a discussion in itself. How people can live in a world without empathy and imagination is beyond me, yet I swear I have met those very same people in my life. It is quite literally like they live on a different planet or have some gene in them that turns off the ability to disassociate from themselves and say “There but for the grace of God… ”

    One thing I have learned though is it is often a waste of time to argue the point and freedom of thought is also the freedom not to think at all. I guess we ought to respect that, and focus on only the dweebs who say things just to wind other people up.

    Little minds have little room for big thoughts.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/veritanuda/ veritanuda

    Wonder if he died from caring too much? ;) Damn what a way to go eh? *sighs*

  • bobsully

    I share in the sorrow at the lose of your friend. It sounds as though his life was full, none of us can as for more that that.

  • hitoshi

    who can believe pedanticKarl passed away…
    he replied to my comments many times in spite of my poor english and taught me many things. we are friends on this site and on twitter. and i ve just subscribed to his UT channel several days ago. how can i believe it? every time i click on this site, i m still trying to find his avatar.

    can you please teach me how to change avatars again, pedanticKarl? i need your help. i m waiting here.
    love you pedanticKarl from Japan.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    Duw Mawr! Klaus was 62??!! He seemed so young… :shock:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    Well now, if pedanticKarl were here, he’d find something positive to say about this post…

    “Hello, noobsailbott, thank you for your opinion. Yes, you are exactly right: we do have a lot of fun things to do here. I have organized a series of seminars on computer basics for the older angels who have been here since before 1990. The Big Guy is considering our petition to set up a link between the celestial and terrestrial Internets to replace the old-fashioned practice of communicating through mediums…” :razz:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    Heart failure. Not that he ever showed any failure of heart on these pages… :smile:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    здравствуйте Marina,

    Klaus’s age puts an interesting twist on his motivations for volunteering for the HFW site. There are always the feelings of a man for a beautiful woman; there’s the respect of one intelligent person for another. But in older men (I speak as one), there’s also the feeling of wanting to be protector, guide, and mentor for a daughter. I wonder if he ever felt like a surrogate father to you — here in America, far from your family, building a career in which at first you had to find your way alone. The birthday video certainly looked like something a father might send to his daughter.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    Oh, I don’t know about his being offline. So long as we whom he influenced are still here, his presence will be felt. Since that includes Marina herself, Klaus will be present for as long as this site lasts. :smile:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    A recent post by pKarl — I’m reposting it because it captures so much both of his lively intellect and sense of humor:

    Reference: das Sprachgefühl
    See LEO German-English dictionary a word that means a feeling for language or a sensitivity for what is correct language. From the word “Sprache” meaning language and Gefühl meaning feeling.

    Hey Evan,
    that is an interesting word. I had never heard of it before and it is one of those words that expresses an idea succinctly for which no word translates into English.

    Check this out.
    http://wordsmith.org/words/sprachgefuhl.html

    You’re right, Marina should do the word {Neandertal}
    That should be a fun lesson. I think she is waiting for an example of someone who is one. Ohhhh, that would be meeeee. The apple didn’t fall too far from the valley. :mrgreen:

  • johnnysquarepants

    God Bless him R.I.P.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lSliucgygc&feature=channel_page&FMT=22 Capman911

    That is so touching hitoshi. I wish he was here to help you change your avatar. Peace Sis. ;-)

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    He was making a nasty joke.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    No, given the tone of his other remarks, I don’t think sniperskaya meant to be nasty.

    We’re all trying to find the right words to express how we feel about Klaus’s passing, and some of it’s probably going to come out wrong. I suggest we give each other some slack. :smile:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    No… Karl did everything he could to hide his age from Marina.
    This other comment…

    62 isn’t that old, just a little over twice as old as our dear teacher.

    … is also a concealed sniper shot.

    In another comment he is being completely sarcastic.

    Even Ohio hasn’t stooped that low.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    Sorry you see it that way, but in honor of Klaus’ memory I won’t get into it with you. :neutral:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    I wonder how many of us ardent HFW fans might feel shy at actually meeting her in person. ;-) (James being an obvious exception. :razz: )

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    The honorable thing to do is here…
    http://www.hotforwords.com/2010/07/26/pedantickarl-we-will-all-miss-you/#comment-181973
    …delete Nasty comments (especially on the page) not add to them.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    I doubt anyone blames Poland for taking the territory from Gdansk to Wroclaw; that was just Stalin’s decision to push Poland about 100km westward. :neutral:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/cufan71 cufan71

    :cry: Rest In Peace Karl :cry

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/txgeek/ Bill

    I think you make an excellent point, Evan. And Marina is right, he would not want her, or us, to feel overly sad at his passing. He will be missed, but he is also a part of us, cherished and remembered.

  • noobsaibott

    I’m not showing disrespect to him.
    I’m sure he was a great guy.
    I mean, I can’t say I care about him, cause that would be hypocritical, I haven’t heard he exists until now..

    I just wish people in 21st century had the balls to admit that dying most likely means vanishing forever.Which is a sad thought, yes, and I certainly wish that wasn’t the case, but I just get really tilted when people say this “I’m sure he’s ‘up there’ and watching us and smiling” and all that other superstitious nonsense.
    It’s a nice and comforting fantasy, but seriously, I think it’s time to let that go.

    I don’t get why people are so pissed at me for pointing out the truth.
    I guess it’s the ‘wrong place’ to say stuff like this, but like I said, I just read Marina’s comment and wanted to point that out.
    Peace

  • Damiana

    nice choice, babes. : )

    fly like an eagle..

    happy we got to talk before your flight.. \o/

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/animalntaz animalntaz

    He didn’t look that young. I would have probably guessed somewhere in his mid-50s.

  • hitoshi

    here is a message from pedanticKarl to my mailbox on this site 3 months and a week ago when this site changed itself into the current style and i asked him if HFW was moving to an sns type.

    Hello hitoshi, yes, Marina has been trying to move to a Social Network type site for a long time but has not found the right application. Several months ago she tried an application but removed it a few hours later since it did not automatically copy all of her users over to the new plugin. So, maybe this one will work out for her.

    how lucky i m to have been able to find hot for words and be friends with him and you all. thank you for the nice site.

  • http://favstar.fm/users/CheVolay CheVolay

    On July 11th I sent my last tweet to @pedantickarl. In that tweet I said “You’re the most helpful guy at hotforwords.”

    I’m so glad those were the last words I said to him.

  • rosiecheeks

    R.I.P Klaus

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/docsavage7/ Michael

    One of my favorite movies is ” Waking Ned Devine “. It takes place in an Irish town and at the end of the movie there is a toast given to their dear friend that past away Ned Devine…and this song is played: a toast to pedantickarl

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/bsomebody13 bsomebody

    Peace, my friend.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/pagedoll/ PageDoll

    Wow, Karl. The Wizard. The Warlock. The all knowing and ever present Karl.
    He was one of the coolest and nicest guys on this site. I could ask him a question about almost anything and he’d know the answer. I don’t how, but he did. Karl was the type of guy you could ask a question and he would reply with five paragraphs! And long ones at that! He had a way of explaining things about this site in ways I could easily understand. He taught me how to make a picture clickable in the forums.
    Karl had a way of calming me down during times of worry(like when the “Platonic” lesson dropped) and motivating me when learning something new in the computer world. Karl will be sorely miss by many on this site, including me. However, as long as this site exist his knowledge, his wisdom, his invaluable contribution to this site will live on forever. In the pages of every lesson for the past 2+ years, in the way a particular function on this site works, to the deepest hollows of the old forum section Karl’s entire personality will remain.
    The last time I chatted with Karl was when I was at Vidcon. I was DM’ing him on Twitter, trying to get him to come over and meet Marina, he couldn’t make it. Why? He was helping a friend fix a few electronic items. That just what kind of guy he was.

    Karl, I will truly miss you,
    Mike

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    hmmm… I don’t know,

    This guy here…
    http://www.hotforwords.com/2009/07/26/pics-from-comic-con/img_1117/

    • looks like he is about 60
    • looks German
    • looks like a computer guy
    • looks smart
    • looks like a really nice guy
    • look like he has bad eating habits (karl said that himself)
    • looks like the guy you described above
    • looks really happy…
    but the last one is easy to explain… look where his hand is :mrgreen:

    I really don’t think there would have been any way he would have missed meeting Marina.
    And if he didn’t want her to know his age he would have went anonymously.

    Even if this isn’t him, I know he must have been there.

    p.s. I did an image overlay of the faces with 50% transparency on one… they are exact.

    au revoir

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    I’ve been away from the internet for a while, so I’ve only just learned of Karl’s demise (Thanks for the heads-up, Evan), and I’m truly sorry for your loss, Marina.
    What can I say that others have not already said?
    Karl was clearly a unique person and I doubt that anyone will be able to fill his shoes; sad though his passing is I hope you can see the wisdom in the following quote, “Weep not for his passing, but rather be thankful that you had the privilege to know him”.
    Yesterday was a beautiful sunny day and while I was looking at the sky I saw a cloud that looked like a White Knight riding a unicorn.
    As long as there are clouds, Karl’s memory will not fade.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/alx/ aLx

    i don’t think that’s him. you know … name on the badge? “exhibitor”?

    looks German

    lolwut?
    how on earth do you look german? what the fuck. in 2008 i was on vacation in miami beach w/ a friend of mine. we met this dude from around there. he said i look like i was from california. whatever that means. oh yeah, i’m german. living in germany.

    looks like a computer guy

    what does a computer guy look like?

  • hitoshi

    what a beautiful comment. May your words be sent to him.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    Name, no-name or fake name on the badge doesn’t mean anything.

    I travelled all around Europe and noticed distinct characteristics of the different nationalities.
    Just because you can’t… so what? Who cares?

    John Lennon said it best…

    Living is easy with eyes closed,
    misunderstanding all you see

  • nettehexe

    I know why he did not come because we talked about it – he was not there and there are reasons why he was not!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/matalexwolf/ matalexwolf

    So sorry to hear the sad news of PK. My deepest sympathies to his family, friends and all who knew him here at HFWs. One of few Gentlemen I have had pleasure in knowing. One with out malice, with only love and kindness to give with unconditional willingness to help anyone who asked, even to those who didn’t. His input here at HFWs as you all know, was immense. His dedication to Marina was second to none, providing a great deal of support which he loved to do. I only spoke about him a few days ago, recalling our recent race to find the answer to a riddle that lasted for days! He won! He could have given us advanced warning about hopping off like this, as I have a techy question that I need answering. He was first on my mind to ask. PK will live forever in everyones hearts and minds that is for certain. Gentlemen such as PK always shine on. Someone who you could rely on, someone who also made education fun to learn. A great loss indeed and Marina, even though I have as yet to watch your video marking this occasion, I know how much he meant to you above all else. He was very fond of you and loved you dearly. Trust you are ok. He never did delete my account, saying keep it live for next time I decided to come back. Never guessed it would be posting this in his memory. Shall raise a glass this evening in his memory. To late to thank him for helping make my time here enjoyable, as well as brain achingly punishing. The few e mails we shared regarding my written English, gave me the confidence to keep trying and that making mistakes along the way is perfectly normal. Such wonderful words from many here reflect what a great man he truly was. God bless you PK.
    With an open heart, a peaceful mind, endless light to everyone effected, Mat

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    ok… sorry.
    I was just hoping and trying to find a way he could have met her.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/lordzog/ Raymond Herzog

    hello!
    my sister and I have just finished finalizing all the arrangements for our father.
    there will be a memorial service for him at McAulay & Wallace Mortuary in Fullerton on Wednesday, August 4, at 7:00 p.m.
    the address is 902 N. Harbor Blvd., Fullerton, California 92832
    and there is also a obituary on their site http://www.mcaulaywallace.com

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/leonard/ leoNard

    Thank you and best to your family… :sad:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gunju221/ PaparazziKid

    2 bad I live a thousand miles away :evil:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/leonard/ leoNard

    Oh, Hi; again~.. maybe, you could post your dad’s obituary at this forum— http://www.hotforwords.com/forum/topic/requiem-for-the-white-knight?replies=19#post-15889

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/alx/ aLx

    fake name? lol. right. i’m not even gonna get into that.

    what’s your definition of “nationality”? citizenship? seems like it as you said he looked “german”. not “germanic” or “european” or something. no, “german”. if that is your definition, someone from forbach shouldn’t look like someone from saarbrücken. which is … well … you know.

    you didn’t answer my questions, though. what do germans and computer guys look like?

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/alx/ aLx

    it’s not him? now, that’s a surprise.

    overlay w/ 50% transparency, huh? they are exact, huh? well, you know, john lennon said it best:

    Living is easy with eyes closed,
    misunderstanding all you see

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    ummmm…. yes, you are doing it right now.
    Thanks for making this nasty.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    It’s like family resemblance. If you are German and you have a brother… other people might be able to see the family resemblance. In the same way… a German might look more like another German then someone French or Italian. You can’t understand that? Fine… Leave me alone.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/alx/ aLx

    hallo.

    ich habe hier öffentlich nichts zu klaus’ ableben gesagt. das hielt ich, ehrlich gesagt, für unhöflich / unpassend und mehr oder weniger … naja, übertrieben. zumindest von einigen. ich wüsste auch nicht, was ich hätte schreiben sollen, ohne mich in platitüden zu ergehen. das wollte ich nicht.
    mein beileid geht also an bestimmte personen, die wirklich und tasächlich mit klaus zu tun hatten — persönlich. ich denke, das ist angemessener.

    achso. ich hoffe natürlich, dass du deutsch sprichst und so, ne? sonst wird das hier voll peinlich für mich. :/

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/rose77/ rose77

    Hi every one,
    My name is Rose and i am Klaus’s 33 year old daughter.
    I wasn’t going to express myself on this site, let alone leave a comment on my fathers behalf,whom i haven’t even seen or spoke to in the last 13 years. After reading some of the distasteful comments on this page my defensive mode kicked in. After all he is the only dad I’ll have regardless if he wasn’t the father i wanted him to be.

    I was angry at first and had a lot of resentment when reading what
    marina had wrote about my dad always being there for her and the video he had made for her birthday. I said out loud,”yeah he can do all these things for her,but he cant even do those things for his own daughter”. Why couldn’t he be there for me,or make me a birthday video? This is B.S. After a couple of talks with my uncle and sleepless nights,i decided to let it go,and just be happy for what i have had. After my fathers death,i was learning so many new things about him. When i discovered he was into this “hot for words” site,i had to see what it was all about?
    Its was nice and comforting to read all the kind comments people,(should i say avatars)had left about my dad.
    It put a lot into perspective for me.

    Its strange how life works,and how a death can become so forgiving and in some ways, a part of healing. Well for me it did anyways.

    I had to laugh after reading a comment in regards to Characteristics of a Psychopath.
    No wonder..so that’s why i am attracted to the psychopaths. lol
    The word that comes to mind is,PROJECTION! What do you think,Marina?
    Is that a “hot for word”? :lol:
    • self-centered & self-important
    • need for stimulation & prone to boredom
    • little remorse
    • shallow emotional response
    • callous with a lack of empathy
    • poor self-control
    • irresponsible behavior
    (you don’t have to be a psych major to see yourself projecting).

    I mean really.. are the few of you that unhappy and have nothing better to do then disrespect the dead? Who raised you anyways?
    For any one that has the need to speak negative words about my father,who now cant defend himself,I will. Bring it on,i dare you. I hope he comes and torments you in your sleep.lol
    Don’t hate,because your mind wasn’t as beautiful as his,and you weren’t the teachers pet,let alone the T.A. :wink:
    “Don’t hate the player,hate the game”!!!

    To everyone else,my brother and i would like to thank you in the most gracious way for all the kind words you have spoken.

    Marina,thank you also for this amazing tribute to my father.
    “Hot for words” gave him joy and i am happy to know i shared my dad with such a kind,smart,beautiful person as yourself. :smile: XOXO Peace and Love always.

  • http://sostire.ca/ BillyB

    Being a member of the HotForWords site is a privilege & getting an email informing me of the passing of pendanticKarl was totally unexpected.
    I have half jokingly called Marina, my “Twitter Mom” a couple of times. Getting news of Klaus’s passing caused me to pause again & reflect on how our short lives play out, with relationships developing in unexpected ways. Lost another brother here, & I don’t say that half jokingly.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/impaler112/ VenomRocK

    Hi Rosie :smile: Well spoken sister! :razz:

    Thanks for coming on here and speaking a piece of your mind. Yes, unfortunately there have been some negative comments about your father during this time. And he can’t defend himself. WTF! As you can see there have been some war of words but for the most part the POSITIVE far out weighs the negative. Even on the internet you could feel like you’re in this situation :o when it comes to dealing with negative vibes especially when talking about your father during this time. Your dad was a kind, generous man to every one here on HFW, and he was very smart. ;-)
    I would like to thank you and your brother Raymond for coming on here and talking and letting everyone know what’s going on. My best to your family, your father will be missed. :sad:

    P.S. yeah, I think my example from the link is probably way over exaggerated but I’ve been on this Kill Bill kick lately. :mrgreen:

    Peace and Love from VenomRocK :smile: :cool:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/impaler112/ VenomRocK

    ooh, I accidentally spelt your name Rosie. Sorry about that Rose.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/docsavage7/ Michael

    Hi Rose,

    First, I want to extend to you and your family my deepest sympathy. I have lost many loved ones over the years and I know the sorrow and pain well. I don’t know of a harder thing to go through.

    Second, we have similar stories in that my father and I never got along for some reason. Maybe there was a specific thing that happened between the two of you , maybe not. Maybe it was just something as simple as a personality clash. I have never understood why my dad and I never got it together. In fact he and I had a huge blow out the day before he passed away and I never got to speak to him again. I felt very badly for awhile , but then came to realize that that was just the nature of our relationship. Why should THAT day be different then any other day of our relationship…and I have since been at peace about it. There are so many things that happen in our lives, both good and bad, and over the years I’ve learned the best thing to do is to embrace the good and let the bad fade away gently like a sunset.

    Again, I extend to you and your family my condolences, and though I am relatively new to this site myself, and not really personally acquainted with your Father, there are many here who have a great deal of respect and fond memories of him. My prayer is for your heart to be filled with those memories of your father that bring you peace and a smile. May God bless you richly…Michael

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    MEMORIAL SERVICE

    Klaus’ friend Heide (nettehexe) writes:

    “there is a memorial in Fullerton, Calif. this Wednesday- Aug 4, at the McAulay and Wallace Mort., 902 N. Harbor Blvd. and at 7 PM. 1-714-213-5446.”

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    Oh…I see that Klaus’ son already posted it. As always, I’m the last to know. :oops:

  • http://youtube.com/jamesingtonthethird James

    I am sorry you have seen comments like that, last year you would be hard pressed to find negative comments, but sadly it seems some people here just want to be nasty about everything.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    Rose, I won’t speculate on the cause of your estrangement from your father, but I have the definite sense he missed you. It’s clear that, while Klaus saw Marina as a beautiful woman, he also regarded her as a surrogate daughter, a replacement for someone he lost.

    I also saw him take on the role of mentor for a young man on this site.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    Bob, you spooked us when you dropped off the Internet the day Klaus passed away. :razz:

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    Don’t worry about me, Evan; only the good die young – I shall go on for ever. :grin:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/pig-in-a-poke/ pig-in-a-poke

    Peace be with you and your family, Rose.

  • thematrix75

    Hello Rose,glad you could make it here to express yourself :!: I’am deeply sadden by your loss.I’am sorry that some chose too express their selves in a negative way.They should know better than that!They should know respect for the dead and such a great guy such as your father was to us all :!:I’am also thankful that your brother has come to us too express himself as well!Your dad will be sadly missed by us all here at Hot For Words!My deepest sympathy to you ,your brother Raymond and all the rest of your family and friends at this time of mourning :!: Alot of love and peace from thematrix75 :!:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/leonard/ leoNard
  • iluv2cutfarts

    Hi Rose –

    I too want to thank you for having come out here to share your heart with us, and to apologize to you for those who don’t show a great deal of respect for loss and grieving.

    Karl (Klaus) really was a wonderful fella out here to many people, and I am so sorry to have learned that in your life you did not have the greatest of relationships. I have to commend you though on your mature outlook on all of this, and the fact that you recognize the things that you have come to learn.

    I wish you and your family the best as you move forward from this, and hope that you were not too badly hurt by any of the word from the idiots that frequent this very fun learning annex.

    Take care of you, and please don’t be a stranger.

  • wordreet

    :cry: :cry:
    Oh my. What a sad, but splendid coincidence. Dear old PK died, while I was meeting new and normally distant friends, and finding that they are now my best friends. Something that has been missing from my life for so long.
    I do understand the loss, and deeply sympathize. And, although true empathy is unattainable, as each person’s feelings and memories are personal and special to them, what’s left of my heart goes out to the family and friends of Klaus, and to our dear teacher Marina, who has clearly lost a truly avuncular friend.
    .
    Never forget, and celebrate life. :)

    Pete.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/melikadothechacha/ Me Lika Do The Cha Cha

    C’mon now, not always :mrgreen:
    Your thoughtfulness is what matters here.
    (better a day early than a day late) :grin:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/melikadothechacha/ Me Lika Do The Cha Cha

    Rose
    For those of us who knew your Dad, it is comforting to read your words. Thanks.
    I can relate to some of the feelings you expressed about the relationship he had with you being a distant one. When two people are very much alike, they either get along famously, or go to war (just like countries!).
    I got along with him in a yin-yang sort of way. He could be very calm and pacific when I was bouncing off walls. Still, if you go through posts he made, you’ll see his ‘yang’ side.

    You are seeing us pretty much ‘warts and all’. There’s a lot of energy here and not all of it is directed well. I think you hit on something when you mentioned the word ‘projection’. I was glad to see you got a laugh out of the thread discussing pathologic behaviour, but you missed one:

    • poor bladder control :grin:

    It’s like when they say in the Viagra commercial
    “If you have an erection lasting more than four hours, call your doctor”
    I say ‘to heck with that!’ :shock:
    I’d be calling ALL my friends, first!
    I’d be taking pictures…! :mrgreen:
    Any guy who would call his doctor to say ‘it’s been over four hours!’ probably didn’t follow the directions…
    I can imagine it…
    “I don’t feel anything, yet. I’m gonna do another one”

    I hope you decide to stay on as a member. Once you start getting to know your way around, you get to like it.

    We will all be thinking of you tomorrow and want for you to know that.
    - Doug aka Cha Cha

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/melikadothechacha/ Me Lika Do The Cha Cha

    I regret I won’t be able to attend.
    Know our thoughts are going to be with you.
    I hope you find interest in continuing to be a member.
    You may get some comfort finding like-minded people here.

    Jesus had a few good words:

    “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”
    “Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.”

    May you find comfort and healing, and gain strength from it.

    Peace – Doug aka MLTDCC

  • nettehexe

    Hallo Alex,

    du hast recht. Ich bin sicher die einzige, die ihn persoenlich hier kannte und das seit 10 Jahren. Er war einer meiner besten Freunde, Lehrer, gleichgesinnter in vielen Sachen: z.B. spirituel und da traf ich ihn auch damals: Community for Conscious Living in Riverside-

    Er war wissend, klug aber auch oft sturr er wusste alles besser!
    Was er hier in HotForWords war, war er auch vorher sicher nur mit mir!! und das war anstrengend!!!

    Danke Alex- ich war schon arg schockiert- und wehmueting.
    Morgen hat seine Familie eine Trauerfeier fuer ihn.

  • nettehexe

    Thank you for the nice song in tribute to our friend – it makes me whistfully sad but I guess there is “Joy to all”, too!

  • nettehexe

    I am sorry Evan- I did not see the posting either!

    but I saw yours now! and that means others will see it here, too.

    Thanks Evan!!

  • nettehexe

    Dear Rose- your letter showed me that you are your father’s daughter. I knew that he had not seen you for a long time. I never asked why and he never talked about it. Only I felt sad about it. But your name came up often.

    I think it is okay to be angry about this and but I think it is great you embrace him now again: as you said “the only father” you ever had.

    Thanks for coming to tell me about his passing. I did appreciate it very much.

    Love to you and Raymond, Heide

  • nettehexe

    For some reason I read about Joseph Conrad several times lately.

    I feel these circumstances happening often in my life.

    Now I have to try to read a book about him soon. I do not think I have.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gunju221/ PaparazziKid

    GET OVER IT! GOD!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/leonard/ leoNard

    T. E. Lawrence, one of many writers whom Conrad befriended, offered some perceptive observations about Conrad’s writing:

    He’s absolutely the most haunting thing in prose that ever was: I wish I knew how every paragraph he writes

    (…they are all paragraphs: he seldom writes a single sentence…)

    goes on sounding in waves, like the note of a tenor bell, after it stops. It’s not built in the rhythm of ordinary prose, but on something existing only in his head, and as he can never say what it is he wants to say, all his things end in a kind of hunger, a suggestion of something he can’t say or do or think. So his books always look bigger than they are. He’s as much a giant of the subjective as Kipling is of the objective. Do they hate one another?—–sourced from- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Conrad … :razz: Not to miss lead my literature ascertainment… :???: “The whole is greater than the sum of the parts”

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/docsavage7/ Michael

    Nette, the song is a melancholy song, but you need to understand the Irish way of waking their loved ones…I would encourage you to see the movie…it’s quite good, and it will put the song in context.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/docsavage7/ Michael

    It’s a song sung by the one who is leaving…” since it fell into my lot, that I should rise , and you should not, I gently rise, and softly call…goodnight and joy be to you all…”

  • nettehexe

    I already made a note for me to see the movie. Thanks!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/doncross2bear/ doncross2bear

    While I had posted earlier about Klaus in ‘Life in a Day,’ we all know that that thread has been sullied by the presence of trolls. Sitting here alone in the pre dawn, I am having a hard time finding the right words to say here.

    So many of you have made such eloquent posts that there is little that I can add that hasn’t already been said. Klaus immediately made me feel welcome on this site, and was quick to reassure me during a time when I felt unwelcome. No stranger to insomnia, I could log in at almost any time of night, and see that Klaus was here also, and there was someone to talk to. Most impressive to me was his already mentioned ability to find and nurture the best qualities of people who came here with perhaps less than friendly intentions. May we all someday develop that talent. He was publicly upbeat at all times, always helpful, exceedingly knowledgeable, and Teacher could have found no better ambassador for HFW than Klaus.

    While I had looked at his avatar many times, the “White Knight” connotation hadn’t occurred to me (maybe because I am ignorant of chess). But seeing it now, it is an apt description of the man. Honor is synonymous with knighthood, and Klaus certainly was a man of honor. At the end of the day (or a life), there could be little better to have for an epitaph.

    My heart, prayers and wishes for peace of the soul go out to all of Klaus’ family, his friends here and elsewhere, and to Ms. Orlova. Klaus ended his last PM to me with, “Take care, my good friend.” So I will do the same: Rest in peace, PK. Take care, my good friend.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    As some sketchy details of Klaus’ personal life emerge, I wonder how many of us old guys hang out here to hide from the schmertzen of our real lives… :sad: Marina’s lovely presence can be a balm to sore hearts; even our make-believe heartaches over her can diminish our real ones. :smile:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/red-dragon/ Evan Owen

    Strange, the change in times…a generation ago, we would mark the passing of a comrade by remembering, “I bled with him at Normandy (or Stalingrad).” Now we note, “I followed him on Twitter.” :neutral:

  • iluv2cutfarts

    I grew up in Placentia. I would have gone had I been back there. I hope if any of you went, you did so with the utmost respect for Klaus and his family. I’d like to be able to assume that, but sometimes with the way things get out here…

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/rhiannon/ tVICx

    me are stunned! what a loss! me and PedanticKarl have had some exchange of “knowledge” and me will miss You PedantiCKarl !!! Blessed be You ! . :arrow: Let Goddess ISIS guide, protect and guard You, where-ever You may be :!:

    Sincerely
    >tVICx<

  • rosiecheeks

    i think ur taking this all a bit too personally, and ur coming off as rude to Gravity Boy. He didn’t mean to offend you nor was he attacking you, so you should leave him alone please. ThAnks.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gunju221/ PaparazziKid

    @aLx, I agree 100%! :smile:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    Thanks,
    look at this…
    http://www.hotforwords.com/2010/07/26/pedantickarl-we-will-all-miss-you/#comment-182627
    p-kid is actually nasty to Karls best friend elsewhere on this same memorial page for Karl.
    He is quite disgusting.

  • rosiecheeks

    You sound like my best friend, who doesn’t like to curse very often, so when she is upset with someone, she will use the words ‘quite disgusting’, which is perfect to describe P-kid. If you were to read my pm’s from him, you would be astonished at how disgusting he really is, indeed. :sad:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gunju221/ PaparazziKid

    That is so sweet!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    No-one should be cursing… this is Marina’s professional website.

    p.s. click to edit is smooshed all the way on the right side and the reply comment box gets smaller and smaller as the level goes deeper.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/alx/ aLx

    i don’t really care about how i’m coming off.
    ignorance in connection with speculation does indeed offend me. especially on a topic like this one.

    leave him alone? look at the timestamps, i did, even though he wasn’t able to answer two simple questions. well, of course he couldn’t. it’s just bullshit.

    what are you, his mother or something? go away please, thanks.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/gootar/ ɦʘqɦʇɪʌɐɹb

    You are the one that is ignorant in this case fella.
    You don’t even know there are people that might be able to see something that you can’t.

    Living is easy with eyes closed,
    misunderstanding all you see

    I can answer any of those questions but I realized it was upsetting Karls friend (and so did you) so I bailed out of it. Plus you were getting nasty.

    p.s. don’t worry… you’ve got somebody agreeing with you 100%

  • http://www.DamnNearGeni.us AllynTygrrr

    He was an exceptionally kind and generous human spirit to me that will be missed.

    Now who will answer my stupid rambling inquisitions about the symbolism of numbers in a world of words gone awry?

    Rest well Karl (Klaus). Thanks for all your replies!

    The rest is in the guestbook.

    :)

    - A -

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/hott4urblog/ hott4urblog

    So, Sad… Karl will be truly missed… I did not know the man personally; but, I felt as if he was part of the family of HotForWords and will be Greatly missed in Class. He was very Informative, Helpful, and Funny! I Send My Condolences to His Family and Friends!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/marina/ HotForWords

    Rose, I am so sorry that your dad was not there for you, you actually just made me cry! Even though he was on this site welcoming people and would answer my emails when I had a technical problem, he never showed up at any events I had like book signings, etc. So, perhaps your dad had an issue with intimacy and was only able to express closeness to strangers because of this fear of intimacy. I don’t know.

    I am so sorry that you were not able to be with him for the last 13 years. He truly was a nice person, as we all knew him virtually, but he must have had some kind psychological issue that prevented him from actually interacting with people on a real-life basis.

    I’m glad you are now able to protect him and not be mad at him.. I’m sure he’s watching over you right now from where he is and he’ll make up for not being there for you while on earth.

    Thank you for coming here and sharing this with us all.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/dictionaricdotcom/ Patrick Jouannès

    I love your comment ! God bless You (only if you deserve it :-) )
    There are lots of ways for being a comrade. You can fight and die together. You can chat and you can twitter.
    Let’s tweet for many years !

    Friendly Yours !

  • quiggles

    Dear Karl,

    Goodnight, sweet prince; And flights of angels sing thee to rest. You will be missed and your absence from these pages leaves us poorer.

    Q :sad:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com/members/powell1106/ ike

    It sounds like he was a great guy.

  • pandalover

    Aww im going to miss this guy:( :sad:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DPS670950?feature=mhw5 Me Lika Do The Cha Cha

    Do you sell used cars, by any chance?
    Of course you do! You show no sense of
    decorum or decency hawking your crap.
    Stop it or you’ll get banned.

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