The English: A Nation of Anglers? Dedicated to Izaak Walton

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Excellent article Evan.

Love the link below the article.
HotForYOURWords :smile:

Great article Evan :!:

lol, love your article Evan :smile:

hey pk, did you receive my pm, it looked like it did it, but i can’t see anything in my history.

Rijk, I didn’t get your PM yet.
I may get it later or try it again.

lol, i had this one a couple of times

Catchable fatal error: Object of class stdClass could not be converted to string in /home/content/h/o/t/hotforwordsmktg/html/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-blogs.php on line 476

i’ll keep an eye on my history, if it doesn’t pop up in a week i’ll send it again

I sent you a PM. You can reply to it.

Intersting article, Evan. The Flemish were from northern Germany, Netherlands and Belgium, too. No? The people of the Azores are partially of Flemish descent. In general, there’s usually more fair-skinned, blue-eyed, lighter-haired people there compared to the people of mid and southern continental Portugal whom in general have more darker features.

Cool, Evan! You really did a good job :mrgreen:
Now… I wonder where {Scotch} comes from…
scotch tape, (scotch) whiskey, butter scotch
It’s also got some slang usages, too, but I’m
writing this on the fly and my mind is elsewhere :shock:
Again – marvelous work :grin:

in a fishing town there’s nothing else to do but go fishing

hook, line, and sinker

plonk!

now i must go come up with other ways in which to seduce the english with besides just rubbing ankles with the anglers in some seedy pub

;-) these boys happen to be from australia, the land down under, yet they’re good boys & got an english sentiment about them so here’s a song of theirs

AC/DC ~ You Shook Me All Night Long

OUR language, eh?

Well, English is NOT my language and will NEVER be the language of my descendants!

Yes, the Angeln probably kept fishing for centuries, and they caught a really big fish when they riled the Normans up, on the morning of the 28th of September of 1066, quite a few centuries after the germanic migrations. The riled up something fierce, that very morning of 1066, quite a big hot potatoe in their mouth too, which they have kept for centuries and which is still heating their mouths today! :cool:

Thinking how lousy of a name England would have been if it were called “Anglend” instead. (Almost looks like it would be pronounced with some kind of northern accent, depending on the region)
“Anglend, …I’m from Anglend. Spaek Anglish, I don’t undarstend.” XD

So, what is the net? :lol: England World Cup 2010 – Flag Burning …

“{Bloody good} job!…keep up the tri-angle of dedication :razz:

Looks like you’ve got an angle. :cool:
Top notch article Evan. :smile:

Neuroway, perhaps you’d like to refresh our collective memory and tell us what IS your native language. I know you speak several. ;-)

BTW did anyone ever solve veritanuda’s riddle? :???:

Thanks, pK, you’re too kind! :smile:

Thanks, VR.
Someday I’d really enjoy having lunch with Marina, and seeing what she’s really like in person. :smile:

“Scotch” comes ultimately from Scotti, a Latin term applied to the Gaelic tribe that migrated into northern Britain from Ireland. A couple of sources say the original meaning is lost. :|

“Scotch” is often mis-used in the US to mean “Scottish” or “Scots;” you’ve given several correct usages.

The Flemish really got around, didn’t they? There’s a settlement of them in the far south-west of Wales.

Flemish, Dutch, and especially Frisian show marked similarities to Anglo-Saxon and basic English. Listen to Dutch, and sometimes short sentences are comprehensible, like wat is je naam? “what is your name?” (Rijk, did I spell that right?) :?:

Thanks, Rijk.
:idea: Why don’t you do an article about the similarities between Dutch and English? Or English words of Nederlandisch origin? :smile:

Thanks! :smile:

Hi Marina,

Thanks for posting my humble article, and especially for the map to illustrate the Anglish migration. :smile:

That’s what I call a “pointed” comment :razz:

yes you did it perfect :smile:

you’re welcome

lol, i’m not that good with words, though i do have one in mind that has it’s origin here.
When i got time i’ll try

Okee Dokee!
Where did the Germans, Jutes, Russians, Angles, etc. migrate from? Sumerians and Akadians?

Excellent article, Evan! I never before read about the particular location the Angles came from, only about Saxony and Jutland. And certainly didn’t know of a connection with the word for sport fishing.
I seem to recall in reading the history of early England that the Saxons gained ascendancy over the other tribes; yet, the language and people are called ‘englisc.’

That is so cool. I always wondered why fishermen were “anglers” Now the Russian word for “English”, pangleeski makes more sense to me. Thanks! So I never heard of the Jutes (unless they were the Jews) So, what’s their story?

Here’s good site to explore, especially if you like Robbie Burns!

http://www.scots-online.org/

Maybe the Jutes were rope-makers. ;-)

To Lady Marina of Lochaber:

‘Scots, wha hae wi’ Wallace bled,
Scots, wham Bruce has aften led,
Welcome tae yer gory bed,
Or tae Victory. :twisted:

Hey, are you angling and fishing for a compliment?
Wouldn’t you say that my comment was very brief,
laconic, pithy and too the point even?
Well, this comment isn’t. :lol:

Yes pedanticKarl got the answer,which was mark.

Shhhhhhh… Don’t tell anyone, Evan… But my native language is Klingon! :grin:

Of course, the Anglo-Saxon invaders drove most of the native British to the far western fringe of the island, or across the Channel to Brittany.

A few survive, and here is a sample of their (our) language: Yma O Hyd (We Are Still Here!) :twisted:

veritanuda halted the game as I mentioned the word mark in one of my answers, although not specifically giving the answer as mark.
http://www.hotforwords.com/2010/06/07/how-to-tickle-the-teacher/#comment-178037

Gravityboy had also mentioned the word mark in his comments earlier.
http://www.hotforwords.com/2010/06/07/how-to-tickle-the-teacher/#comment-177964

The final answer was mark and every line of the riddle referred to the clue of mark. Here is veritanuda’s answer to the riddle.
http://www.hotforwords.com/2010/06/07/how-to-tickle-the-teacher/#comment-178040

Defnyddia dy dafod (Use your tongue!) :twisted:

The name of the Saxons is preserved in the Gaelic and Welsh names for English, “Sassenach” and “Saesneg.” :cool:

Oh! Someone halted the game? :roll:

Well, let the game resume, then! :grin:

Vous êtes très drôle, monsieur! :razz:

“Anything that is too stupid to be spoken is sung.” – Voltaire 1694-1778
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandy :cool: The name of Normandy is derived from the settlement and conquest of the territory by Vikings (“Northmen”) from the 9th century, and confirmed by treaty in the 10th century. For a century and a half following the Norman Conquest of England in 1066, Normandy and England were linked by Norman rulers, but following 1204 the continental territory was ultimately held by France. {lions}…{ two bailiwicks: {Guernsey} and Jersey, which are British Crown dependencies.} :lol:

congrats Evan Owen :idea: stick a fork in it :cry:

it’s Well Done :lol:

:cool: B.B. :cool:

Hwæt! We Gardena in gear-dagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.

(Just a little “Angle-ish” for you!) :grin:

OK Marina, so where does the word “Russia” come from? Or should I say, after watching your last Russian lesson: как сло россия натил?

(OK, that was probably gibberish, but I loved the way you had said “как”, so I had to use it.) :razz:

(Hey, there’s another word to do the origin – “gibberish”.) :mrgreen:

You just need to redo the history.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/240/britannia

Just a little suggestion, work requests should be done like so: {gibberish}

Hope that helps. :-)

Excuse me Evan but I want to put some confusion with my question: How and when Angles became Engles? The initial of the word has not changing often in such cases, usually it is the other word with different roots.
The word England is Англия (Angliya) in Russian, as Geronimo has noticed below already.
It is another one word, which makes me believe in some theories
1. All European languages were the one language in the far past.
2. The Russians gave name to the Anglo-Saxons.
3. The English language is a strange version of the Russian language. :mrgreen:

Does this have any connection to the word “Ankh,” the Egyptian symbol? It could kinda be sorta like a fish hook… :???:

{braVo} :lol: aND h0w!!!… The Compleat Angler was first published in 1653, but Walton continued to add to it for a quarter of a century. A celebration of the art and spirit of fishing in prose and verse, it was dedicated to John Offley, his most honoured friend. There was a second edition in 1655, a third in 1661 (identical with that of 1664), a fourth in 1668 and a fifth in 1676. In this last edition the thirteen chapters of the original have grown to twenty-one, and a second part was added by his friend and brother angler Charles Cotton, who took up Venator where Walton had left him and completed his instruction in fly fishing and the making of {flies}.

:idea:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izaak_Walton

teach my schooled hUngEr

:lol:

{Punch} was brought to the luncheon, sponsored by latest author… :lol: good luck!!! ” Beard ” Olga Aref’eva , Ark , KALIMBA ..Jah gotta make video(you-tube) for your book ;-) I’ll eat left overs… :lol:

Olga does quite a variety, doesn’t she? :grin:

Interesting video…. :grin:

Evan .. liked the article! Being half Welsh (Pembrooke)I support you. The other half however reminds me that history suggests that 1) the REAL English people migrated to Wales under Roman attack and 2) that many people on the East Coast (of what we call England), my other half, have a Nordic / Viking history. I am sure that Bodesia will be turning in her grave to hear that she may be a German :lol:

Well done, sir. I had heard a tale, unsubstantiated of course, that the Angles and especially the Saxons arrived after the Roman Empire left Brittania in the early 5th century. Some have even suggested that they did not invade, but were invited to settle. Have you heard anything about this? Also, Boudicca was of the Iceni tribe… but were the Iceni Britons? She is oft used as a symbol of Brittania, but I can’t find a definite description of the Iceni that is less general than “a Celtic tribe.”

As I was taught, Russia comes from Viking raiders and traders who settled on the Volga. They were called the Rus.

Si, muy divertido… y un hombre con muchas lenguas

I have heard that the Romans had no official designation for Scotland apart from Scotia, which also referred to Ireland (Hibernia). Though I’ve never seen a definitive translation of Scoti or Scotti, I believe the Romans used this word to generally mean “land of the Gaels”. The Gaelic “Alba” came into popular use after the Romans Empire had left.