Newbie & Dragon Oath & E3

haha n00b… you should do more leet speak.

Hi, Hottie!

Again so soon :shock:

That wig and outfit give you a Eurasian look. Plenty hot. ;-)

A Newbie admission: I have never played a video game. In my life. Ever. :shock:

Where can I buy your DVD? ;-) :smile:

“my bad” made me laugh out loud, you are so damn funny. i am really hesitant to open this game portal since i have an addictive personality, but how can i resist if you are the official spokes person? it does look rather awesome though. also, i’m hot for costumes, cosplay is another ingenious thing about asian cultures, you look great as a magical kung fu warrior, knock em out tomorrow.

If I had a billion dollars you could take it all from me with your pouty-face. GAWD! :roll:

Maybe I’ll stop by at VidCon, I just read this on the E3 website :arrow: :arrow:

Attendee Registration
Welcome to Attendee Registration. Please note that E3 Expo is a trade-only event and is not open to the general public. Individuals who are not able to document their direct, and current professional affiliation to the interactive entertainment industry are not qualified to attend. If you are from the retail sector, you must be selected by your parent company to attend.

…And I was ready go too. Dang-it!! :sad:
..Unless there’s a pass waiting for me at the door. I know I’m dreamin’, just go with it. :)

I laughed when you said “flipped out”! :lol: Then I laughed some more when you do that mod 70″s dance in the middle. :lol: I never knew Gorby talked, but isn’t it cool when they start? :grin: The last video game I played was Millipede and some surfing game on my sons Nintendo. :oops: The last time I was called a newbie I was coughing my brains out. :shock:

:smile: hai yai :!:

Another fun and educational video, Marina.
I made a Magazine cover for you, thought you might find it funny.
Just click the link.

http://www.hotforwords.com/forum/topic/marina-on-photoshop/page/7#post-14688

:o Nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit

:| I think Kurt Cobain came up with Nirvana as the name for his band when he was shopping for candles.

I am concurrently running Guild Wars. :smile:
One of my (7) characters is a Monk-Ranger with
a wolf, a fire imp and a pet miniature fungal
wallow; working to get to level 20 in Pre Char
Ascalon. To get past level 11, you have to do
“death leveling” which takes some time to do.
I like it because it’s FREE, once you buy the
game. No monthly fees is a big incentive…

I noticed when I downloaded the Dragon Oath
app (AFTER I registered), it doesn’t look to
be free to play (which is the reason I don’t
play Pirates of the Caribbean). :???:

If it’s free, I’ll play – so let me know, OK? :mrgreen:

Also, the word “newkie” has been around since
the 1860′s in the USA in orphanages built after
the Civil War for all the war orphans.
Newkie, short for ‘new kid’ morphed into a word
we’re all familiar with: Nookie :mrgreen:
Apparently, many orphans were young girls…
And, yes, this was even before Puffa Puffa Rice

When do we get to see more of you in the neo-harem girl outfit??
Nooki nui and Aloha!

The motto of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry is Draco dormiens numquam titillandus; Latin for Never tickle a sleeping dragon. Says it right there in their coat of arms. The pronunciation is:(Latin) DRAY-koh door-me-ins noon-kwam tee-tel-LAN-dus

noobs are simply tolerated

That doesn’t seem like the type of game I would be interested in. I would rather give WoW a try, but lately it seems like I’m not much of a gamer. I haven’t even played Sims 3 in so many months.
Too busy searching and learning how to use converting and editing software. Sometimes I’ll play a flash game at armorgames or ninjakiwi, to give myself a break.

Oh, avatars now with rounded borders.

Hey Marina. I’m no linguist (let alone a cunning one…sorry, couldn’t resist), but it seems like your pronunciation of “students” in the greeting “My dear students” sounds different in your recent videos compared to early ones. Were you affecting more of an American accent in the early days? If so, did it have the desired effect? Or by effecting a change, was your popularity positively affected?

Whew, I’m exhausted. My apologies if you’ve discussed affect vs effect before. I’m not fully caught up on all your videos…yet. :o

Boris: Vut means UPC code? Iss sekret?
Natasha: Mebbe to ask “Where are Lesbian?” on cover?
Boris: Cover iss good chob, da?
Natasha: Da, dollink.

@ Greatest Potential – nice stuff in the forum

You guys are gonna have to start a forum page
where you can bounce off each other (so I can
watch – heh heh!). Does it take a long time to
crunch out the rendered product? …or is there
a template to streamline the process?
- Cha Cha

To my most dearest hotforwords Hottie Girl!

Marina! You are soooooooo hot! I love the long dark hair and that cute sexy outfit that you plan to wear to E3! If you dress that way in the game, all the time, even the most experienced players will have to bow to your every whim.

Which brings me to on-line gaming. I hate it. It sucks serious ass, and is a huge waste of time.

As for homework – I was called newbie by a big dork at my last job when I first started, and they still have not found him to this day. His face looks good on the milk cartons here in my area groceries stores though. :twisted:

Until next time, I remain faithfully yours…

iluv2cutfarts

USA

:mrgreen:

Lakers are on… first “last-chance” night.
It’s only 2nd quarter, but score is Lakers
by 14 (20-34) @ 8:30 to go in the quarter

You are definitely my Ultimate Fantasy Gaming Girl! Certainly you are not a {Dweeb} Wot ever dat means. I came up wit da term: Wangster for a Wannabe Gangster off da termed Wigger. Newbie = Rookie; Justin Case… I seen him on TV. Ferrets Stink! n Wot happened to da cute little Bunny Wabbit? Game On!

Have fun! :razz: Take time for a leak! :lol: News to choose…see you at the booth ;-) Quote :-) “The nice thing about egotists is that they don’t talk about other people.” – Lucille S. Harper

Hello, Miss Marina.
At the 5:02 mark, derogatory is spelled incorrectly as deragotory.

What is the difference between newbie and n00bie, which you claimed wasn’t a real word and refused to do the origin of on the Jace Hall show? Could n00b be the diminutive of n00bie? :razz:

I hadn’t noticed the mole on the inside of your arm. It’s cute. ;-)

Someone also said a naughty word. Tsk tsk. You could follow my example. I recently ran a large splinter of wood under my fingernail halfway up the nail. I almost said bad words, but I refrained.

So were you saying that you never purchased porn at a liquor store, or that you never had a HotForWords Uncut and Uncensored shoot? Hmm. (just teasing) :grin:

I wish you the best at the E3 show, and hope you have a great time.

Nice magazine cover CrossThreaded ;-)
Did you see Marina tweet that picture
and it’s up on Twitpic http://twitpic.com/1x51c4

Okay, :oops: time. Must admit that I was sooo distracted by the way cool costume that I had to backtrack to catch the homework assignment. Speaking of, I’ve never been called a newbie, except by myself. That from my inexperience at social networking (yeah, I know, it shows). Everything else I do predates the word newbie. Been called FNG a few times in younger days. That’s also ‘Nam era slang.
Knock ‘em dead at E3, Dear Teacher,
xoxodc

Did anyone else notice the spelling “cluleless newbie?” Or was that intentional? Probably shows what a newbie I am. And as far as these online games go, I most likely will stay one, as I see them as even more of a waste of time than trading comments on, ahem, a certain website run by a Russian cutie. I have things to do that get dirt under my fingernails. And no staying up late either. I’m off to bed!

Ð’Ñ‹ сказали «пойдите прочь», поэтому я сделал. Не закончил наблюдать видео-…
Препятствуйте мне знать когда я могу возвратить…

How many леты прежде чем они делают видео- игру вас и вы будете новым приусадебным участком Лаура?
Я могу увидеть его теперь –
«горячее для слов», марина Орлова, Рейдер-слов (а вор сердца)! :lol:

That was a fun lesson. Your costume looks
very authentic in the true Cosplay style.
That game looks pretty addictive.
I’m going to have a try it.

You’re right. At the 4:52 mark, clueless is spelled cluleless. Good catch.

I love your costume :cool:

I can see where you can get addicted to that game and it does look cool, I just can’t say I’m into it. I might be considered old school on this but I like pinball machines.

Homework: Yeah I actually was called a “newbie” by a person at my current job, but now I have their position and they are gone. Like as in their ass got fired! :twisted:

;-) ….some more {guitars} I’m The Hell Outta Here :cool:

Marina, I hope you have a great time at the E3 . :smile:

{old-school}/{iron-curtain} :lol: Kiss was the first game to feature a chasing light sequence behind the backglass, and required an added auxiliary lamp driver board to get the job done . …just something of OldSchool—The video of one of the most famous scenes of the movie “Tommy”. With Elton John …I bet you I loose to win :lol:

Ohio Countryboy wrote once about Marina’s book:
Her book was difficult to read due to the numerous grammatical mistakes.

I have a question to the people who have read her book carefully: How many errors were there? Do you remember some of the worst of them? What should we (non-native speakers users) be aware of during reading the book?

I’ve of course read the book, but since I have no command of the English language, I posted the question.

Dear Marina,
Last night, we saw you in that skimpy Dragon Oath costume, and coincidentally, the Lakers won! :razz:
We know you will wear it again on Wednesday at E3. (Sorry, I’m not driving to LA and back just for that.) But will you wear that costume again on Thursday so that the Lakers will win again? :razz:
I have a class on Thursday night wo I’m going to miss watching that game on TV. Bothy teams are going to do everything they can to win. So when I get home tomorrow night, I hope I can see some celebrations for the Lakers win. If we’re lucky, maybe you will post a video of yourself doing a victory dance in that skimpy outfit to celebrate the win? :mrgreen:
To answer your homewotk, I’ve never been called a “newbie” or “noob” at anything. Even at graduation, we talked about how we would use our talent to make the world better and to bring good to people. And in Silicon Valley, you get hired for your expertise, not because you’re a “newbie” at anything. It’s a “[meritocracy]“, here. :cool:
Seesixcm6

Found this while I was snooping around.

Found this while I was snooping around. I remembered that this movie kind of took the fun out of pinball and I found it pretty disturbing. http://spyhunter007.com/Images/gomez_playboy_pinball_flyer_front.jpg http://www.becausewecan.org/images/blog/pinball.jpg

This is going to be a funny sit-com. Based on a Twitter account named ‘Shit my dad says’
YouTube video

Hello Marina,so you are interested in Dragon Oath.It looks great I may have to give it a try.I was called by the term noob alot when I used to play online games.I love the new Dragon Oath outfit you have on!It makes you look really hot!The Lakers won ,so maybe there is something to wearing that costume!Good luck at E3 hopefully alot of people stop by your booth!Good luck,and see you all later!Peace :!: :cool: :smile:

Finally, I have understanding what MMORPG is
My Dear Teacher, I’m already there
I hope, any aggressive student will not wish to kill me, while I’m waiting for yours appearance. BTW what about you? :shock:
You looks so dangerous at the end, beautiful and dangerous :!:
Homework
can’t remember :mrgreen:

Wow… you even copied the “click the link” in the text :mrgreen:

http://www.hotforwords.com/2010/05/30/sappho-and-l-word/#comment-177185

http://www.gootar.com/hfw/howtosucceed.jpg

Chris Rock, de bono, teeming millions :mrgreen:

3:30 AM??!! :shock: Are you getting ready to milk the cows? Or is that 6:30 Eastern Time?

Homework: I changed schools, so yeah;
Then, there was college, and the Army…
I have been called a newbie before.

At this site, newbie status doesn’t
last long. I got my own water dish! :mrgreen:

Boris: Vut iss hyee sayink now??
Natasha: I tink he vunts to be pet of Tyeacher!
Boris: Heh heh! I haff better chance

Well, thank you thank you. (Bows deeply…a little too much, and does a face-plant).

You’re welcome…

hey, you know might have a good future as a writer.

Just get the text of some book you like, get a thesaurus program that changes all the words, change the title a little, make a similar picture for the cover and you’re in business :mrgreen:

You look like a beautiful anime character that has come to life…

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=anime

So now not only will you have all the gaming geeks in love with you, you have also inadvertently added all Japanese guys. :mrgreen:

Hello, Stigmatasaurus.
The timestamps are in Pacific Time Zone. My post was made at 6:30am Eastern Time.

I am not a dairy farmer.

Hello, fglrx.
I want to make something very clear. I do not want this to be construed as bashing Marina. I do not fault Marina for the grammatical mistakes in her book. As English is not her native language, she likely did the best she could. I do fault her publisher for not ensuring the book met the quality standards of a commercially published book. Her publisher should have provided an editor.

Incorrect comma usage and improper sentence construction were the two most common mistakes. Commas indicate a pause, but not every pause in a sentence requires a comma. It’s not uncommon to have natural pauses in the way sentence parts are combined which do not require a comma. When you encounter multiple commas in incorrect places in a sentence, it disrupts the sentence flow and makes it difficult to read.

English is not written the same way we speak English. Spoken English is often more informal. We can get away with jumbled sentences with unusual breaks, or even sentence fragments in our everyday speech. Written English is more formal, and should flow more easily. Marina’s book is written as one would speak.

For a commercially published book, I would expect one mistake or less total in the book. Any more than one would appear very unprofessional. I honestly do not know how many total grammatical mistakes are in her book. When I tried to read the book, I quickly became frustrated when I encountered mistake after mistake which required I read some sentences multiple times to grasp the correct meaning. I began editing my book, and at the bottom of the page I would write the number of mistakes on that page. I originally intended to bring it to Marina’s attention the total number of mistakes I found in her book.

I have a character flaw in that my constructive criticism often comes across as harshly critical. I am not very politically correct, and often lack tact. I stopped counting mistakes, and instead told Marina that I thought one of the more difficult things for people learning English as a second language was understanding the differences in sentence construction for conversational speaking versus formal writing. I told her that if she decided to publish anything else, I would be honored if she would allow me to proofread her writing and offer my editorial suggestions. I left it at that, so as not to make it seem like I was trying to beat a dead horse by pointing out mistake after mistake.

Before I stopped counting, the most mistakes I had found on a page was 8. While there were a few pages without mistakes, most pages had 2 or 3 mistakes.

Some examples:

Sentences should never begin with “and”, “but”, or “or”. The second sentence on the Introduction page begins with “and”. (This rule is beginning to have some gray lines, with some schools of thought arguing that you can start a sentence with “and”, “but”, or “or” to add extra emphasis.)

Page 2. “The name stuck, and later on, the Romans turned the Greek word…”
There should not be a comma after “and later on”. An easy way to tell if a comma is placed incorrectly is to remove the words surrounded by commas from the sentence, and then read the sentence and see if it makes sense. If we remove the words “and later on”, the sentence reads “The name stuck the Romans turned the Greek word…” It doesn’t make sense, so that should tell you something is wrong. It should be, “The name stuck, and later on the Romans turned the Greek word…”

Let’s jump to page 12.
“Some eponyms are obvious: Aphrodisiac, for instance, is named after the Greek goddess of love, Aphrodite. Some are less so: The word maverick is named after a politician, Samuel Augustus Maverick, who refused to brand his cattle.”
You can remove “for instance” and “Samuel Augustus Maverick” from the sentences and they will still make sense. However, their placement in the sentences adds an unnecessary break in the sentence flow. “For instance” can be completely deleted, as it is redundant since we can already tell by the colon that Aphrodisiac is an example. If the author insisted upon using the words “for instance”, those words should start the sentence and it should read as, “For instance, Aphrodisiac is named after the Greek goddess of love, Aphrodite.” This eliminates a break caused by a comma, which allows the sentence flow to be smoother and read quicker. “Samuel Augustus Maverick” should conclude that sentence. It should read as, “The word maverick is named after the politician who refused to brand his cattle, Samuel Augustus Maverick.”

Page 37.
“This god was, in the complex Greek system of deities, the fairest of them all.” That sentence is mutilated by “in the complex Greek system of deities” being placed in the center of it. It completely disrupts the idea being conveyed that “This god was the fairest of them all.” You can place “in the complex Greek system of deities” at either the beginning or end of the sentence, but it should not be placed in the center of sentence.

I don’t expect someone learning English as a second language to know these kinds of rules for sentence construction, and people learning English as a second language often have better English skills than native English users. I read a lot as a child, and learned to read very fast. When you see proper sentence construction thousands upon thousands of times, it stands out when you encounter an improperly constructed sentence. With properly constructed sentences, it’s very easy to speed read. If you hit a sentence with mistakes, your reading comes to a complete halt and you lose your train of thought while your brain tries to process the idea the sentence was intended to convey.

It’s one thing to use incorrect English while blogging or in our everyday speech. When it comes to a commercial publication, every mistake lessens our credibility and looks unprofessional. I think pretty highly of Miss Marina, and I’d prefer to not see her lose credibility or seem unprofessional. I am certain there are others besides myself who are competent and would gladly offer editorial suggestions to help Miss Marina avoid appearing unprofessional.

{SARDINES}…when playing games, eat Sardines grilled…test :!: The rain has reign—in keeping with the theme- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_(online_game) …been busy :???:

Hello, fglrx.
You said, “Ohio Countryboy wrote once…”

Should it be “wrote once” or “once wrote”? What’s the difference, and which one is correct?

Priviyet y’all! How is everyone tonight?
Zdravsvuj Marina, :grin: looks like E3 was lots of fun.

Here is a good one… can you do all the slang terms for {breasts} ?

I know you did booby already (on my birthday btw)…
http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/03/09/booby/
but that is only one term.

There are probably hundreds more…?
puppies, hooters, bazookas, melons, jugs, etc.

p.s. Did I ever mention you have wonderful MacGuffins? — yep :cool:

Hi gravityboy,
Marina actually did a video on the topic of titillate and tit and the homework assignment was to list other names that refer to a woman’s breast. When you look at the video on this site, scroll through the comments and you’ll see many slang terms for breast.

One member named caktonias posted 138 different terms and wordlover listed 178 terms, but they are not numbered.

Titillate (On this site)
http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/05/01/titillate/

Tits (on YouTube)

You don’t want to “Bash Marina”?
That is what you do, that is all you do.

The only question is… why?

You even dissected her finger lengths in one comment…
what does that have to do with grammar?

How does that… “help Miss Marina avoid appearing unprofessional?”

Thanks.

p.s. what are you doing up so late… thinking about her MacGuffins? :cool:

yep – just like a dear in the headlights :shock:

Note to self:
Dear has been purposely spelled correctly :lol:

Actually, I’m waiting for the FIFA Argentina – S Korea match coming up in an hour. Going to watch the replay of Swiss – Spain upset. Spain had a run of 12 straight wins.

yep – just like a dear in the headlights

Note to self:
Dear has been purposely spelled correctly

DOH! :mrgreen:

do-re-mi I call myself… :lol:

Boy, you crave attention. Sure wish you’d seek it somewhere else.

Note: The errors in sentence structure and grammar in this comment are intentional. :roll:

“Shoot the cross-eyed man; he’s probably the leader”
- Napoleon Bonaparte
:mrgreen:

Love these guys. Check out this demo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfqRwXxlqQ4

Hello there, gravityboy.
It is unfortunate that you are unable to distinguish between any positive criticism and maliciously tearing down someone. I am not politically correct, and I do not subscribe to the liberal American philosophy that we should shower constant shallow and insincere flattery on others, for fear of saying something that might hurt their feelings. Flgrx asked for examples of common mistakes in Marina’s book in order to better educate themself, which is the reason I provided those examples.

I do not believe I was slamming Marina by discussing her finger lengths. To me, it is no different to say that Miss Marina is unique by being smart and attractive as it is to say that she is unique by having longer ring fingers than is common. No, such observations have nothing to do with grammar and have nothing to do with appearing professional. Threads and comments about riddles, bunny rabbits, music videos, and philosophy are unrelated to grammar also, but you will find them commonplace on the site.

Errors in videos, or errors in commercially published books do make Marina appear unprofessional.

Why do I point out mistakes? I point out mistakes because I care enough to not overlook them. If I didn’t care if Marina appeared unprofessional, I would say nothing. I would rather be honest in my constructive criticism, than to shower Marina with insincere and shallow flattery. I am too much of a man to tell people what they are hoping to hear if it requires me to be untruthful. Tough love may be politically incorrect, but it can be every bit as caring as other forms of love.

My high school English teacher would have given me a failing grade if I turned in a manuscript the quality of Marina’s book. I would have been admonished because I knew better than to turn in such low quality, just as Marina’s publisher should have known better than to market a book with that many errors.

I believe Marina has tremendous potential, far beyond her present success even. I would like to see her be the best that she can be. She will have a much more difficult time getting there if her path is full of mistakes that make her appear unprofessional. We should all care enough that we want her to avoid those mistakes.

“Don’t shoot me I’m only the piano player.” ;-)

Do you do requests? :lol:

Thank you very much for such an insightful review. I suppose the book was written in an informal style on purpose.

Although, after reading your review I see better than a few months ago that Marina used too many interjections and parenthetic remarks inside her utterances, making the style a bit jerky.

The problem is not specific for English, because such a way of composing sentences sounds similar also in other European languages.

I wonder to what extent the disrupted sentence flow was used by Marina consciously as a rhetorical device.

This promo is disturbing.

Not as {old school}
Scared Stiff feat. Elvira.

:shock: Next time label your dish. The secret code was leaked! :oops: —and I thought a “{nymph}” was a water dish! :lol:

The schools are fished; and the holy union are educated state sponsored capitalism[caPIGalism]…print my money with oil stamps and roads to schooled!

:lol: board of education/paddle of creek…wages for the beans to eat/teachers and mental-less health :twisted: pea and leak soup lines :lol: —–”I love Mickey Mouse more than any woman I have ever known.” – Walt Disney 1901-1966…..dual government is a union?

Here’s a picture of Marina and Gorby during her newbie days of Hot For Words, back in 1922: http://www.shorpy.com/node/8338?size=_original

Wow! Gorby has held up pretty well :mrgreen:
Of course, Marina has changed a lot, too.
(you get those with that vampire crowd…)

That’s so cute!

hahah funny.

You can use just about any plural word to name breasts. Here’s a challenge for you. Think of plural words that would be a poor (horrible) term for breast. i.e. “check out here balls” ahhahah. :mrgreen:

aaggg. I want to watch the lesson but I have no time. Maybe later to night. ;-)

Hi Marina. I loved this episode. You are great! I was wondering if you would ever like to do an episode on the word {comrade} because I recently learned to speak Russian (thanks to the Air Force) and was surprised to learn that the Russian word is not the same as the one we use, so I was wondering where our word came from. Thanks! And again, love your videos!

Hehe.. Sure it is not Marina’s great Aunt or something? :P

Not lately.

:idea: But I have one! ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rls8cfomkBQ

Yes… you are correct I never noticed that before, even the word “plural” works.

Most of the user names on this page do also…

Check out the “Captain Jack’s” on her…
She has an amazing set of “cha cha’s”…
Her enormous “gravityboy’s” make my mouth water…

Look at that set of…
[plural's, deluxenn's, veritanuda's, leoNard's, CheVolay's, pat's, sniperskaya's, joe's, PageDoll's, jp's] …on her. :mrgreen:

Click on the Home link above and
look at the picture with those pair
of pandas. I love pandas. :LOL:

Speaking of pandas…
@marina Did the rabbit ever get named?
I think it’s an omen?

http://www.gootar.com/hfw/pandas.png

Your enormous pandas — yep

Hello, fglrx.
I want to make it very clear that I do not consider myself to be an expert in English usage. While growing up, I would typically read 2 or 3 books daily, which was probably 400-500 pages each day. I read very fast.

When you see proper sentence construction over and over thousands of times, you immediately notice an improper sentence. I may not know the exact rule being violated, but I can tell something is not right.

I believe there are two groups of people paying attention to Marina. One group is horny guys who just want to drool over a nice pair of breasts, and who care nothing for the educational value Marina presents. They are offended by any criticism of Marina’s educational content. I believe the second group of people not only admire the pretty girl, but they want to learn also.

Marina gets paid for the videos she produces, and the books she sells. When you are paid to do a job, I hold someone to a higher standard.

I look at my criticism as comparable to alerting someone that their shoe is untied. While it may be mildly embarrassing for them, that is better than for them to trip and fall. If someone repeatedly has untied shoes, they give the impression of being a fool, or simply uncaring. When I point out Marina’s mistakes and errors, I hope that it is viewed in the same manner as telling her that her shoes are untied. I do not intend for it to be viewed as a personal attack on her. Some people may say that all I do is run Marina down by pointing out mistakes. While it is normal for people to point out untied shoes, I don’t know of anyone who goes around complimenting people because their shoes are tied.

Marina’s stated intention is to teach people, and to get them interested in studying the English language. I believe that misspelled words in videos, and published English mistakes are counter productive to her stated intentions.

I honestly believe that Marina puts a lot of effort into the videos. I recall reading on an etymology forum that was being critical of Marina’s early videos for errors. Marina took the time to address that forum, and told them she was doing the best she could, and she told them she would be honored if any of them would be willing to help her do research. Native English users have a natural advantage over Marina in English skills. I believe we should be trying to find ways to help her.

I had a lunch break, and since I could not type, I decided to watch the vid.

Isn’t apostrophe S (‘s) a possessive not plural?

Hey, Love the long black hair Marina. Can you wear the wig all the time?

Yes, I have been a newbie before.

I am not a fan of any game with out a pause button.

I have no freakin’ idea.
All languages have a contrived set of rules.
Math and physics have definite rules.

So, if I saw two of you… literally two “captain jack’s” would I say it like that?
That’s the joke I was going for, using the user names as slang terms.

“Look at that set…” doesn’t that imply plural?

hahahah! :lol: Well sorry about that. In the past, I could not give a rats ass about grammar rules. Now because of Marina, and the others on the website, I’ve been putting more thought into words. It’s like a whole new world I have never seen before.

No, you would treat my name as a noun and just say ‘Jacks, Bobs, gravityboys, etc.

Yea ‘set’ implies many. Really I don’t give a damn. Im just giving you a hard time. hahahah :mrgreen:

Im back!

Welcome back!

There he is! :razz:
Hey big, glad you can log in now.

I reckon you are right and I also don’t understand why so many people from here want to murder and burn you for your moderate and constructive criticism, which is de facto good and helpful for Marina and for all of us. I believe it will make Marina more aware of possible mistakes and allow her work to be better and better.

I don’t admire Marina (I like her, but don’t worship), I rather try to assess her works objectively and I see you expressed many opinions that were like mine, although I was not competent enough to voice them. I admire not Marina, but the English language, even if I don’t know it well, but I want to know it better and better day by day.

Hello, fglrx.
I believe there are a few reasons why people want to murder and burn me, as you word it.

Miss Marina is an attractive girl, and there is a lot of testosterone on this site. Some guys feel that any form of criticism and peer review is a personal attack against Miss Marina, and they want to prove their manliness by protecting Miss Marina. They fail to recognize that their behavior is actually disrespectful towards Marina. She has chosen this career, and she puts her work out there for peer review, be it good or bad. Attempts to protect Miss Marina from critical review implies that she is not competent to accept the consequences of her decisions.

People often feel threatened by anyone different, especially anyone they perceive as more intelligent than them. Many guys feel it is a competition for Miss Marina’s affections, and they feel threatened by me. If Miss Marina respects me for giving my honest opinion, some guys will feel lessened because they did not point out the things I mention. It is easier for guys to attempt to murder and burn me in order to make themselves seem bigger or better in comparison, rather than for them to take the time and effort to better themselves.

It is also politically incorrect in America to be critical. It does not matter what you actually accomplish. What matters is that you tried, and any attempt should be met with praise. It is politically incorrect to say anything which might possibly hurt someone’s feelings. By offering constructive criticism, I am guilty of being politically incorrect, which carries the sentence of being murdered and burned.

I have not found this to be the case in the real world though. Every job I have had or competition I have been in, I was rewarded for my accomplishments, and not for my attempts. Not only have I not been rewarded for my unsuccessful attempts, the cruel real world often imposes harsh penalties for unsuccessful attempts. For anyone who disagrees, I would enjoy watching you unsuccessfully attempt to inspect every frame in one of my large beehives. Bees do not forgive mistakes.

My Dear Marina, It’s so hot imagining your pretty [Bald] head without the wigs. Would you be so brave enough to do a video [In the bald] and just tear out your fans hearts with the unusual. :cool:

Milk Cartons…greatest poTentials :lol: :arrow: mother-jUgs & ‘helpers’ :oops: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Leonard Check out number 3!…all babies are newbies—suckle-ing the boobies

:lol:
redemption is within your grasp

The Milkman ~ A parody of Kevin Costner’s THE POSTMAN trailer

You are just giving me a hard time because now you know “Captain Jacks” can be explicitly equated to boobs.
This means one “Captain Jack” is a boob.

So now if you see an ignorant or foolish person instead of calling them a boob… you can just call them a “Captain Jack.” hahahah :mrgreen:

p.s. don’t get pissed… only kidding :cool:

:cool:

Marina Tweeted. . .”Jacuzzi, sauna, pool at night….the best feeling ever…love the feeling of jacuzzi bubbles popping on my back”

That is the one thing I miss about back home there in Southern CA. The Minnesotans do enjoy “hot tubbing” but it’s not the same.

Ah – those were the days.

:)

LOL! :mrgreen:

You look great in that outfit with that dark hair, Marina. ^_-

Btw, do you know how the word {gross} got such different meanings? It can mean ‘before taxes’ as in gross margin or gross national product, but it can also mean ‘disgusting’ as in the exclamation “that’s just gross!”

Hey! Where has the picture of Marina gone on the sign in page.

Urm wasn’t web 2.0 the 1 millionth word?

I had a jet bath in my last house…

Where have you been!

My grandmother was born in 1922. It was her birthday on the 16th. Cake was nice.

Marina, considering your costume, are you familiar with the phrase {wardrobe malfunction} that entered English in 2004? No, it’s not a slam against your costume, but what might happen while wearing it! :razz:

So tell us about your trip! :grin:

Saxon violins! :shock:

Two days later, and I can’t BELIEVE no one has posted 99 Words for Boobs :lol:

I believe :lol: Treasure Quest—the cow jumped over the moon :grin: Treasure Chest’s Interview***BIG BOOBS! Jamaican/Hope Indian Mix! …of you-tube :lol: actress and models :lol:

“Combination-pun” – you amaze me, Sir :!:

That was a freaky promo. What’s scarier yet it’s in the 90′s and it already look dated!

Hi Marina. You look great and exotic. It is not the usual bi-monthly “love” song this time but your outfit reminds me of this. It’s kind of funky. :grin:

Hi Pat! Some biker music to fly with— :cool: …I’ve made open time and got some things done… “Ring My Bell” :cool:

I had one of those too in an apartment I was in years ago, down in Texas. They are nice.

{reminds}…cool song… http://www.guzer.com/pictures/2_dogs_running.php see Gorby run!…

Talking Heads – Psycho Killer …Marina has her games :cool: (4-o’clock)-my bad :lol:

I’ve been around; just traveling a lot :mrgreen:

Thanks and cool, TOO!…Hear this…Hot Tuna – Uncle Sam Blues (1971) … Hot Tuna, electric at the Fillmore, from the out of print film Fillmore: The Last Days.

RIP, Papa John (John Henry Creach 1917-1994)
HOT fiddle :cool: Title: Wild Turkey
:-)

Love it, leoNard! :cool:

Funny how music evolves. In it’s time disco was despised by rock and rollers. Now that we’re 30 years away from it’s roots it’s kind of interesting to listen to it for kicks. And what I feel is the modern version of disco sounds pretty good and in a way sounds like the background music for a video game. :lol: I’m already hollering, but I get echos and the dogs keep barking. I will give Alex G. B. a try ;-)

“Vixens With Violins”-Escala – These babes are also phenomenal fiddlers. They make me think of you, Marina, using what God gave them ;-) to promote their passion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYfpB2b6UV8&feature=related

Jack, Pig, and Eleese(Hootie). Dogs do fly until they get older. Dachshunds hardly ever touch the floor. Pit bulls are like 747′s-don’t stand in the way. Pugs are like bullets, low flying but deadly. If one is going through life being afraid of psycho killers, just carry a sharp pocket knife with a legal blade. :razz:

Hello Marina, I believe these words have a russian root, maybe you could talk about it: {Cosmonaut} and {Mammoth}.

{Minnesota}: small soft drink? :razz:

{товарищ} :cool:

{comrade} obviously comes from the Old British combrogos, “fellow-countryman,” source of the modern Welsh Cymro, “Welshman.” :razz:
Or maybe not. I’m a notoriously unreliable source. :mrgreen:

Wow… cool vid.
I was already thinking something similar for @marina … compile a list of all the words for boob from the booby video (300?) and get a nice picture of yourself from every video (600?).

You can read the boob list off at one per second and have two pictures flash every second. It would be a nice addition to the youtube story :mrgreen:

p.s. use all the boob list words as keywords… it would get a massive amount of hits.

Gee, if we can’t start a sentence with “And,” we’ll have to throw out most of the Bible (at least the English versions I’ve seen.) :lol:

OCB, I’m deeply sorry that the errors in Marina’s book interfered with your enjoyment of it. Me, ah thunk it were great, but ah ain’t all that picky. :razz:

So who said you had to read his post, Rick? :razz:

Hitoshi-san and I were discussing {mokusatsu} this morning. It means “to kill with silence.” We could just “mokusatsu” OCB’s picky complaints. ;-)

So how’s your command of Polish? :razz:

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Piano Man! :grin:

Well, she might sing better than you, but I’d be afraid to see her in your Dragon Oath costume. :shock:

(Or did you mean the dog?) :razz:

Minty Soda = Refreshing Soft Drink.

:mrgreen:

This is un-use-al the Nepp-line :lol: http://www.sitchin.com/

Good and Evil :twisted: BP is the Sea Monster
http://www.theoi.com/Olympios/Poseidon.html

The [Devil is in the details], Shrimp are bottom feeders :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puabi

Gee, if we can’t start a sentence with “And,” we’ll have to throw out most of the Bible (at least the English versions I’ve seen.)

:lol:
OMG! The best riposte I’ve ever seen!
FLAWLESS VICTORY!

Yeah, I reckon it’s coming to that. :|

Warning: punning is contagious! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Dear HotForWords,

That Outfit is the coolest thing! You should wear that style all of the time :grin:

Well I’ve watched some of the World Cup here and there. But I’m wondering, always have, why do Americans call the game [Soccer]??? Where did this come from? Why don’t we call it, like the rest of the World, FOOTBALL?!?!? [Soccer]??? :???: :???: :???:

Your Student,
ThoughtOnFire

Hello, Evan.
The Bible was not originally written in English. It’s illogical to apply rules of English grammar to non-English writings.
Perhaps the problem is not that Biblical sentences begin with “and”. It is that we are reading the Bible in English. I have heard it said that reading the Bible in English is like drinking muddy water, while reading the Bible in Hebrew is like drinking pure springwater.

You will also find nouns that have been translated into English in the Bible which still retain the Hebrew plural form with the “im” suffix, rather than the English plural form which uses the “s” suffix to pluralize nouns.

The Bible may not be the best book to learn proper English skills.

I think you also noted a key point when you mentioned enjoyment. Do people read Miss Marina’s book for enjoyment, or for educational purposes? Some people look at the pictures, and some read the text.

Hello, Evan.
I believe my command of the Polish language is irrelevant, as I am not offering any advice or review in regards to Polish grammar.

You said above…

Hello, fglrx.
I want to make it very clear that I do not consider myself to be an expert in English usage.

…so “all” of your advice or review is irrelevant, period.

♪ Ba-RUCH ha-ta Adonai,
Elo-HAAAY-nu melech ha-Olom!♫

Shabat shalom, OCB! :razz:

Hi thoughtonfire,
Marina answered your question in a video that was published in July 2008.

Many of us are watching the World Cup and your question also came up
recently on the “Last Names” video page. I wrote an amplified answer over on that page.

Two key points;
- Football originally referred to running on foot, not kicking a ball by foot.
- It is a myth to say that the rest of the world calls it football. Other countries call it soccer and many other countries use other terms.

Here is my amplified reply about the word football vs soccer.
http://www.hotforwords.com/2010/06/07/last-names/#comment-178302

Here are Marina’s videos on the origin of Football and Soccer.

Football – Soccer on YouTube

Soccer & Football on this site
http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/07/06/soccer/

My apologies. I missed the bit where fglrx asked you to correct his grammar. :neutral:

Baruch hata Y’hovah.

Oh, really? Would you care to elaborate? Why do you imply that one must consider themself to be an expert before they can contribute relevant content?

Whether or not one considers themself to be an expert has no bearing on their actual abilities.

Hello, Evan.
I wasn’t aware that I had corrected fglrx’s grammar. Perhaps you could be so kind as to point me in the direction of the post you are referring to.

I suspect you are referring to the post in which I said, “Should it be “wrote once” or “once wrote”? What’s the difference, and which one is correct?” However, fglrx was correct in his wording that I had “wrote once”.

Here are some references regarding the origin of the word football and soccer. Both wiki articles are heavily footnoted.

Football (word)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_%28word%29

Names for association football
This wiki shows a map of the world showing
which countries use the term football and soccer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_association_football

Yay! That’s the spirit! :grin:
Think I’ll go have some more spirits! :mrgreen:

{Yehovah}
{Yeshua}

Awesome!! Thanks for re-posting PK; many an argument in sport bars regarding ‘Soccer’ this week I have had! Stood my ground in the knowing that I was right about its origination and date, thank you very muchly teach!

The look on some stereotypical English supporters faces was priceless as one of their, finest English woses, took my word for it and logged on to HFWs at half time. “Fuck me, hes right Wayne, 1846 like ‘e says Innit, Soccer comes from facking ‘ere dunnit Wayne? OOOOOOOOIIIIIII WAAAAAAYNE, Football ain’t called Football no more, it’s called faking Soccer Innit!!!” – Thankfully I placed a fore-thinking bet with many red crossed, passion wised all things ‘Soccer’ fans, so thus rewarded in beer! Got drunk of sorts but kept a smug low profile from Wayne N’ chums as their lowbrows breathed over my entirety! Yay, go me!!

…chatting with Wayne and Mandy, no I meant chatting to Wayne and Mandy, post match was liberating. Mandy and Wayne, felt best to mark the occasion, for having learnt something relating to ‘our world’, with ink on table scored ‘Wayne N Mandy Luvs Soccer!’ – both wanted to get in first before any one else. I’ve been invited to the forth coming pub quiz but….rain check! (easy now Wayne, down boy……)

So another ‘HFWs Student in the street saying how it really is to the less fortunate or otherwise misunderstood, people!’ success story!!!!! :)

So thanks for the beers HFWs!!! :)

how you can reach nirvana in this game. i think dragon oath is about fighting and you don’t reach nirvana when you are not peaceful. and what are the eight races of non-human deities. i never read about this ( i read some books about buddhism yet ).

I’m glad by default if someone corrects my grammar. It really helps me to write better English.

I like these guys’ approach to learning languages:
http://www.antimoon.com/how/mistakes-damage.htm
http://www.antimoon.com/how/mistakes-in-learning.htm

Happy Father’s Day, HFW Dads! :smile:

Dad, thanks for the unfathomable love you gave me.

Hey Marina, Have you upgraded to wordpress 3.0? I don’t know about you, but I am not doing it!

That is a great story matalexwolf.
Have another pint on me mate. Cheers! :smile:

It takes 2 seconds.. I did it the morning that it came out.. I did the autoupdate and viola, 3.0 :-)

Ok, I just did it. I was just worried it was going to mess everything up!

Nothing like mowing in the Central Texas heat to work up a big case of swampass. :twisted: Guess I’ll have to shower now. First, a cold beer, of course.

Oh, if ya’ll want to see how real men attack a road course, the NASCAR race from Infineon at Sonoma is fixin’ to start. On TNT. Boogity-Boogity and all that. :smile:

ooo marina, i asked you to investigate this term and wrote alot about it from the dashboard feature im soo glad you made a video for me.

TY!!

Where is Hot For Words…?

She is so far ahead of everyone, she is already in another galaxy.

Please come back someday Hot For Words… please come back :mrgreen:

Hello, fglrx.
When we are faced with unfamiliar knowledge, we have two options to choose from. We can choose to feel inferior and be offended because we lack the knowledge of something, or we can choose to take advantage of the opportunity to learn and better ourselves.

I agree with the Antimoon approach to learning better English skills. Perfect practice makes perfect, and reading correct English over and over unconsciously helps us learn correct English. Reading bad English promotes future bad sentences. As a child, I read books prolifically, and I credit that reading with helping me develop my English skills.

I recall Miss Marina saying that as a schoolgirl, she would hurry home everyday to watch an American tv show, Santa Barbara. While her written English still needs work, I have been very impressed by how good Miss Marina’s spoken English is. I would not be surprised if American tv has played a large part in helping her speak good English. It is my understanding that during the first year of marriage, foreign brides will often neglect household duties because they were so distracted by watching tv the entire day. They get so focused on trying to learn conversational English that they lose track of other things.

I believe the Antimoon website overlooked another issue. The incompetence of teachers is not limited to non-native English users. In 1983, schoolteachers in Houston, Texas were required to take competency tests. More than 60 percent of the teachers failed the reading part of the test. Forty-six percent failed the math section while 26 percent could not pass the writing exam. As if this weren’t bad enough, 763 of the more than 3,000 teachers taking the test cheated.

How are English speaking students to learn proper English when their teachers lack the skills they are supposed to be teaching? Is it any wonder that 1 out of 5 American high school graduates can’t read their high school diploma?

The Antimoon site implies that English users are too polite to correct improper written English. It is not a matter of being polite. It is an issue of them not knowing what is incorrect. While America boasts of 99% adult literacy, we neglect to mention that many Americans are underliterate. Most Americans can read road signs and the tv guide, and they are content with that reading level. Only 13% of adults read at or above the Proficient level. http://www.begintoread.com/research/literacystatistics.html

Many Americans may not correct bad English from someone learning English as a second language because the person learning English as a second language may very well have better written English skills and comprehension than the native English user. This is the one caveat of reading a lot of written English to improve your English skills. When only 13% of American adults are at the Proficient level, most of the English you read on forums is written by Basic and Intermediate users. (Almost 1/4 of Americans are Below Basic, but they are unlikely to be using a computer for more than watching videos on YouTube, which gets 25% of all internet traffic.) There is a lot of bad written English on the internet, so it is easy to pick up bad English habits by reading internet English.

In 2002, the Canadian government issued a report that said 2/3 of retired Canadians were functionally illiterate, and 45% of pre-retirement Canadian adults were. Canada is supposed to be comparable to America. That’s pretty scary if you ask me. http://www.scribd.com/doc/211731/How-To-Recognize-A-Functionally-Illiterate-Person

Here are some statistics from 1992 concerning the levels of American literacy.
23% of adults were in Level 1
27% in Level 2
32% in Level 3
17% in Level 4
3% in Level 5

Level 1: Able to follow brief written directions and select phrases to describe pictures.
Example: Locate time or place of a meeting on a form

Level 2: Able to understand combined ideas and make references based on short uncomplicated passages about specific or sequentially related information.
Example: Enter background information on an employment form

Level 3: Able to search for specific information, interrelate ideas, and make generalizations about literature, science and social studies materials.
Example: Integrate information from long, dense texts or documents

Level 4: Able to find, understand, summarize, and explain relatively complicated literary and informational material.
Example: Research and write a college-level term paper with footnote references.

Level 5: Able to understand the links between ideas even when those links are not explicitly stated and to make appropriate generalizations even when the texts lack clear instructions or explanations.
Example: Read and comprehend the themes in a classical play or novel such as Hamlet or War and Peace.
http://social.jrank.org/pages/939/How-Educated-Are-We-Functional-Literacy-Educational-Attainment.html
http://www.policyalmanac.org/education/archive/literacy.shtml

That’s enough of that. Let’s get back to the original question.

You said, “Ohio Countryboy wrote once…”

Should it be “wrote once” or “once wrote”? What’s the difference, and which one is correct?

This is actually a trick question, as both are correct. In fact, “wrote once”, “once wrote”, “once wrote once”, and simply “wrote” would all be correct. They all have slightly different meanings though, but the overall idea being communicated remains the same for all. So which wording should one choose to use? I posited the question because your wording afforded an excellent educational opportunity to show how subtle differences in wording and word usage can affect the meaning.

Using the word “once” after the verb indicates the number of times the verb action happened. The “once” in “wrote once” means that it was written one time.

Using the word “once” before the verb has the meaning “once upon a time” giving the verb a past tense, rather than it meaning one numerical instance.

As I had written it in the past at an unspecified time, and I had only written it one time, both wordings are correct. This is why it would also be correct to say, “once upon a time I wrote one time”.

While the different usages of “once” can slightly affect the meanings, it is an adjective that describes, and that adjective does not alter the idea being communicated, which is that I had written of my disappointment in reading a book with what I felt were unacceptable levels of English errors.

Does that make sense?

First!
First day of summer that is, sunshine.

Dam :roll: Look who’s been running Russia. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37810398/ns/world_news-europe/ It’s no doubt, Stalin’s son; just look at this guy’s head and tell me he’s not a [chip off the old block] :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyway, I’m in a pissy mood, I think I put on my steel toe boots and go for a walk. :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v_3LVcm1h8 :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i5qkSxF60U&feature=fvw :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6_RZhh44NY&feature=related

Ever watch Japanese cartoons and brush up on you Sushi :roll: :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6_RZhh44NY&feature=related

But you have spring in winter, and summer for the rest of the year in Southern California!

Believe it or not, but we actually get snow here in winter. Most of the snow stays above the 6,000 foot level and occasionally comes down to the 4,000 foot level for a few weeks and every other year or so we get a thin layer of snow down at the 400 foot level for a few hours.

I’m a little disappointed you didn’t credit me for Newbie. I suggested it a week ago. =(

;D~~
wish i had time to look 4 u on this mmo game..

Dear Marina,
looking at your dress I get one question:
Did you ever explain the word belly dance to us?
I am sure you have the means to illustrate this in a way that we shall never forget it.

hmmm now that I finally got some freetime I can try it… any chance of meeting u ingame marina? no fakes plz ;*

vitor, dont be idiot, that was PR of a sponsor. The womans like her dont play in MMO-games :lol:
In-russian: Витор, не будь идиотом, это была реклама спонсора. Женщины вроде нее не играют в ММО-игры :lol:

hi guys i’m new in here.. i wan to ask something about dragon oath :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
let’s get to the point where do i get young two headed swoop??
anyone here can help me? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: