The Wonderful State of Spelling and Grammar These Days

It’s not only a problem with those who use technology, but those people who just don’t care about language and communications in general.

A day does not go by where I see almost everyone I see at restaurants, malls or wherever I travel, people have cell phones in their hands either reading or sending text messages. I think it is the sign of the times.

Thats how I text! Whats wrong with that huh?? Iz lovz thuz way i tx!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Blessed be the ignorant, for without them we could not succeed.

God, that’s horrible. I also feel that it’s not an isolated circumstance. The really frightening aspect is that when we are all elderly and decrepit, people like that will be in charge of what remains of our future. Brrr.

I think odd people well just always be odd, weather educated or not odd is often a choice.

I think it has several reasons:
1. texting and twitter, their really is just so much space for a text-message or a tweet.
2. on the internet you don’t just have people who’s first language is english, so they don’t know english as well
3. they do the same thing with emails and msn/chat and so on

If you grow up in that environment you too might not have perfect english. LoL ;-)

Not really anymore, there was a time when this was common

” Hey marina

howz yhoo bbe? i hope u r ok && doing well coz i loves ya videoz && your hair is wel pretty”

That really uesd to fuck me off why do you need && and yhoo? Even though “you” is much quicker. Damn internet talk.

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OK ! Enough! my head is throbbing.

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My wife who teaches at a school says she sees this every day from middle school students. With our school system the way it is today “leave no student behind” it’s hard not to pass a student because of low grades. Our school board has adopted that if your not in spelling class then you won’t get a bad grade for misspelling a word in another class. So some of it is our leaders fault for not holding back a student and letting them slip through the system with only half of an education.

It’s a shame. I see my nieces and nephews communicating all the time like this on Facebook.

He could have said,
Damn, you knowz I’s gots ta getz minez! Cants i’s just beeez yo mans baby?
She could have said, Awww, hows i lub dat mans a minez! :mrgreen:

Unfortunately it isn’t an isolated incident. I have seen forums where spelling and grammar are even worse than the example provided here.

I can understand if it was a SMS, as you need as many words to fit in as you can (depending on phone). Otherwise, it’s a sad sight to see and it sometimes gives me a headache trying to read the bloody thing :lol:

Does anyone else feel the same way?

Humiliation.
An effective teaching technique that has fallen by the wayside in the name of fairness and equality. Unfortunately, it doesn’t end after school. I could go way on, but I won’t.
Good to see from you Mikey. :cool:

That’s a valid new language ! , and it’s closer looking to computer code language than English does. Code is where language is headed for in 50 years.

It’s just, can today’s kids learn 2 languages ? English as it used to be written, and compuspanglish -the new text-messaging language of technology, and the 21st Century.

considering the context of the communication, why isn’t it appropriate. seems to be a private casual exchange in which this type of language is effective in conveying multiple levels of meaning. there have discussions on this site before regarding code switching and grammar. everyone uses a variety of speaking and writing styles in various situations. there is and always will be a flow between the languages used in these various social situations. wtf?

From what I can make what’s blurred out, it’s to a girl named ‘Julie’ or ‘Julia’. Can’t make out who it’s from though.

exactly.

(also, how old is he? where’s he from? what’s his social/cultural background?
all those questions matter if one wants to really analyze things like this.
statistics ain’t that easy.)

.::tHiS mAnNeR oF wRiTiNg::., which was very popular on some social networking websites several years ago, also drove me crazy, but not as much as pseudo-leet “y0 d|_|d3, u t0t411y pwn3d”. Those fads have passed away, fortunately.

*sighs* That is the problem though. It used to be that people who wrote email or used newsgroups or posted articles were actually educated in both spelling and grammar. Alas, now even though we have spell-checkers and grammar-checkers built in to even web-browsers, proper grammar and language is being eroded inch by inch. People are just so lazy it seems. Thank God Marina is around to help stem the flow and bring a bit of dignity back to the English language. :smile:

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I listen to kids talk like this all the time at work. The real sad thing is I work at a college.

I dare say the grammar is not so bad in the included message in comparison to spelling and punctuation. The Internet is full of bad English of two types: the language used by native speakers is semantically correct, but often poorly spelled. On the other hand, English used by non-natives is often spelled perfectly, the grammar is sometimes hyper-correct, but the choice of words and phrases seems to be severely impaired.

The third situation is spotted when a non-native speaker tries to imitate the spelling manners of some “cool teenage” natives or a “gangsta slang” from rap songs – there comes an epic fail and total destruction.

Hello Marina,how have you you been doing?It takes all kinds too make the world go around!This doesn’t seem to be a isolated case with the spelling,grammar,and punctuation etc. ,at least to me anyhow ! See you later Marina,and I wish the best of luck to you!Peace :!: :cool: :smile:

Dear students tell me please, is this real?
How it possible be? :shock:

unfreekin readable :?: :!:
:cool: B.B. :cool:

I work with a guy that came from China, about 25 years ago, and his sloppy use of the English language in his communications drives me crazy. I definitely think that there is not enough focus on language structure in school anymore. Transition from text messaging to actual composition seems to becoming a lost skill for some.

Yes, it’s real. There are several books on the subject on Amazon.

Here is John Corcoran in his own words

I knew several people like that. I know someone who is very bright and is now in his 50s and he does not use any technology, computers nor cell phones. He is well off despite the lack of reading and writing skills since the skills that he developed focused on managing people. That is, he learned to persuade other people do the things he could not do which was to read and write.

Schools in the US are just factories treating students like an assembly line. No emphasis on finding out what students really want to do with their life.

Maybe all that early childhood education is finally paying off.

“Silence is better than unmeaning words.”
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That’s how they speak in Los Angeles…. ROFL

totally agree with you, che… on most accounts. some teachers do have a legitimate concern for their students’ education (vs their usual indoctrination.) actually dude, i agree with you so much, that is exactly why i decided to be a teacher… :???:

isolated? no. typical? not that either. most young people these days have much better communication skills than this example. personally, i think the harry potter and twilight books have ignited a passion for reading in so many young people today… books is gooder ‘en sum o’ dat utter junk… :roll:

The Wonderful State of Spelling and Grammar These Days

LOL! And the example is merely an English one. I’m sure that most other languages are being minced by either falling education standards as class sizes increase, or by text speak, slang, etc etc.
My guess is that it always went on throughout history, but the current explosion in communication methods is just making it more visible.

And at least he spelt ‘jerk’ correctly.

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I attended private school through ninth grade, then public high school. I was anything but honor roll material. However, I seemed to have a distinct advantage, due to all the strict training I received in private school.

By the way, CST, the private school was strong on teaching phonics. When taught correctly, IMHO phonics can make a powerful difference.

I’ll never forget Senior Comp class. You would think twelfth-grade students had been in school long enough to absorb something, but apparently not.

We were given a set of five questions a week. Most of the kids were only required to write a small paragraph. They were then picked at random to get up and read their own work. It was painful to watch.

I wasn’t allowed to get by on so little.. for me, ten pages minimum, for which I turned in an average of twenty pages. Not boasting.. they just knew I came from that private school, and they graded me severely. I could have sworn my parents asked them to be tough, with some folding money.

That was thirty-eight years ago. And not much has changed.. there are still private schools and public schools, and the same difference when it comes to the training kids receive. Private schools generally are much tougher on academics, such as reading comprehension, math, and writing. They are not afraid to drill hard and grade hard.

So my solution to why Johnny can’t read? Don’t spend millions on a blue-ribbon committee to study the problem. Since the private schools do it right, hire them to set the standards, to write the lesson plans, and to guide everything from A to Z.

Let me say it again.. I’m not smart! Just trained!.

It’s very real! I’ve had several jobs that included, on top of my normal duties, the dubious honor of editing and polishing of other staff member’s written work. Some writers were functionally illiterate (IMHO) in that they could not write a decent paragraph.

Among these were engineers, project managers and lab managers. Strong mathematicians, accountants even! It would take a person in my position to actually find this out. And sadly, once I was the lone person who knew their secret, a huge distance grew between us.

I don’t pretend to know how much of the US population is functionally illiterate. But if some powerful revelation were to reveal it as 75%, don’t ask me to be surprised.