Euphemism


Have you ever misunderstood a euphemism?  And where did the word come from anyway?

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  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    WOW+++++The roach I caught stealing my horse and with all offences included :P

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    Did it not work…nice house…

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    The flute sings a song of mating…I lost and miss-ty…you sure look pretty as always… :smile:

  • wetsuit5

    And now I get to go to bed with a silly grin on my face.
    Thanks!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lSliucgygc&feature=channel_page&FMT=22 Capman911

    Is that keys in your pocket or you glad to see me.
    Would you like a Pearl necklace.

  • bigredgumball

    once i said to a co-worker (she was pretty hot too) after I had delt with a particularly nasty customer “Fuck me running” which is a common expression here … kinda like sayin holy crap that took alot out of me.

    she said ” you dont hafta be running” but i didnt catch on til i got home… I totally missed her advance… sigh.. ah well.

    missed my own damn euphanisim… (facepalms)

  • bigredgumball

    wait no is that a true euphanism? oh balls.. ignore me im overtired,

  • wetsuit5

    Marina,

    Did your new friend come with the new apartment?

  • bigredgumball

    parking the banana boat in tuna town.. there i came up with one lol

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Funny video lesson. :lol:
    HomeWork:
    If you are not into a quickie then let’s make whoopee!

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    [illegitimati non carborundum] Also, did the Russian people come up with any such expression for Communist “interrogators”?

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Oh yes, Marina, that color hair looks great on you. :grin:
    No, that was not a euphemism. :lol:

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    The Beatles Performing Hey Jude introduced by David Frost on 8th September 1968 …hey baby lets go and spread the doctors orders…

    youth-isms or worst yet.. “youth in asia”…stoke the fire or stoke the stork…very good ph-a-uKing JOB…call me anthing but late for dinner :razz:

  • http://www.tony-bernhoffer-photography.com tonyb

    I can hear some phony religious jerks next door trying to use hideos words for sex or keeping my from masturbating over pretty girls. one I think is from mom’s church said SO YOU MISSED OUT ON SOME SKIN or it was just some SKIN! I hear shit liike CHOKING YOUR CHICKEN or I SHANKED THAT GIRL FOR YOU! Firing squads were invented to dispose of religious jerks like them. I saw an old movie with Lionel Barrymore about that Russian priest who was helping to curse the Czar and overthrow his family. They had a photo of him in my dictionary and I used to wonder if he was just some fairy tale. Rasputin. I pray curses on america and its Government because they oppress and persecute me. RASPUTIN MUST HAVE BEEN A GOOD MAN AND THE CZAR WAS THE EVIL ONE.

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    cool :lol:

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    It will take me a while to figure out most of the euphemisms in this video (I had to look up “pearl necklace” from Comment #4 below) — I am straightforward — I directly say what I mean, and mean what I say.

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    shit-kickers and high=heels :lol:

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    These Boots Are Made For Walking – Nancy Sinatra on Ukulele
    …things a goofing up :twisted: and or then; I screw up… Play House (Elvis Presley cover)
    :cool:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    It’s called a “regret of a lifetime!” :-)

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Homework: extra credit
    She’s a double bagger, but I’d bang her all night.

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    Although there be those who abuse sex, sex as such — man’s sexual capacity — is a good thing; so it and most words associated with it are already/inherently “eu-words”!

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    that is a “knot of soul-kool” :razz: …love at first sight, is a misery of lifes delight :???: excellent production—like bread in an oven :oops:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/animalntaz animalntaz

    I’m not much of an euphemism kind of guy. I lean more towards a few inappropriate pick-up lines, so I can’t think of any at the moment. Is “jack-hammer her ass like a construction worker” considered an euphemism? :mrgreen:

    I have very few of these and avoid all other lame pick-up lines, I really can’t think of any.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/animalntaz animalntaz

    Hey what happened to my gravatar? Do they expire after a year? :?:

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Homework: double extra credit
    The other day, Jan 5th, Marnia tweeted:
    “Anybody have any funny examples of beating around the bush? Writing a video right now about the term.”

    Presuming that the tweet is referencing a future video, then interestingly enough, the term “beating around the bush” can also apply to this video lesson on euphemism since beating around the bush would imply the substitution of an agreeable or less offensive expression and in terms of a sexual expression, the phrase “beating around the bush” can mean screwing a chick that doesn’t shave.

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Did you change your email address?
    Gravatars are linked to your email address here and at the gravatar site. If you changed your email address on either site, the gravatar won’t show up.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/animalntaz animalntaz

    Yeah, I did. I already checked the gravatar site and fixed it. :grin:

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Kewl. You are quick. :lol:

  • shymoonprince

    i have been wonder where the word [animosity] came from

  • http://www.theendoftheinternet.com/ Chemikal

    Have an Angry Whooper and I can tell you all about those. :-)
    The dancing in this video was so COOL, I couldn’t help but dance along. Your lady character appeared offended by the dude’s dancing, beats me why though, he was the bomb! :mrgreen:
    Now, why do you own a BLOW ME hat? It’s funny in the video, but I hope it remains just a prop. :P
    Anyway, 5 stars for making me uncomfortable by saying f*ck a couple of times. No objection, I just wasn’t expecting it. You really are hot for all words, aren’t you? :D

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Homework: triple extra credit
    Marina recently had an In-N-Out-Burger.
    Does she know about the sexual euphemism by removing the “B” and “r” in the word Burger where you get the phrase, In-N-Out-urge. There were many bumper stickers with that phrase around for many years.

    Note:
    This blog automatically plays in audio as well.
    http://mono-cheese-factory.blogspot.com/2009/07/in-n-out-urge.html

    Other euphemisms that I have heard over the years are:
    - A bit of the old in & out (in some cases referencing to the above)
    - Play at in-n-out
    - Bone someone
    - Bury the weenie (hot dog, etc)
    - Feed the kitty
    - Get into her pants
    - Have a nooner
    - I’d hit it
    - Makin bacon
    - Romp in the hay
    - Sexercize
    - Slap some skin
    - Stuff the beaver
    - Stuff the taco

  • http://www.theendoftheinternet.com/ Chemikal

    PK, that’s gross. Hairy chicks are not for me. :-)

  • http://www.theendoftheinternet.com/ Chemikal

    A girl told me she was really good at Whist, so naturally I asked her if she wanted to play a game with me. I was prepared to pwn a noob, but she thought I was talking in euphemism and said “Isn’t it to early for that?”. I didn’t catch on right away, so I said “No! Or are you scared?”
    I don’t want to tell you the rest, but I still don’t know if she can play Whist or not. :D

  • http://www.theendoftheinternet.com/ Chemikal

    - Getting that extra-credit

  • http://www.theendoftheinternet.com/ Chemikal

    Correction: *too early
    Moral: Being an idiot gets you chicks.

  • Derelict

    I would like to request the word [flattery or obsequiousness].

  • wolffengong

    great word Marina :) nice to see you having so much fun with yourself…was that a Euphemism for [masturbation] i did not intend it to sound like that,sorry. My word request is [myopic] but if you wanted to continue with your stream of words and phreases that mean other then what they sound like then perhaps[ Blasphemy] is a really good one for you to research.
    your friend, Wolffe

  • sami999

    hey Marina how are you i hope your fine
    i want to know the word [magic] where did it came from?
    take care.

  • neuroway

    Euphemism? But of course! Hey babe, do you wanna insert a horse into Troy?

    Sorry. Couldn’t resist. :cool:

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    Or putting the nut with the bolt and ill temper in heat…getting ready to mate the moon…<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVByVdCAkTo&quot; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVByVdCAkTo rel="nofollow”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVByVdCAkTo">">Aerosmith – Falling In Love (Is Hard On The Knees)
    :smile: …I have never seen a hat like that perv was wearing—chasing teacher! :lol: …[blowhard]…===braggart(slang)

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    LISTEN Rasputin Pt 1/3
    … That monk you talk about had his nuts cut off and was a cult leader of sinners and reborners…they would whip themselves into heat :twisted: funny how sex can mean such perversion :evil:

    .
    :roll:
    C H A U V I N I S M :???:

    :cry:

    :lol:

  • keefc2

    Sex Euphemism? : ‘Can I put my washing in your Washing Machine ? ‘
    ……. ‘No! … I’ll have to do it by hand ! ‘

  • kiran205

    Hello maria, I play this online game called RuneScape (www.runescape.com) and I was wondering, what is the orgin of (RuneScape)
    thank you!

  • vsenaverx

    [word]
    [слово]

    – Мишка

  • http://youtube.com/jamesingtonthethird James

    HAHA MARINA!! That was lol

  • http://youtube.com/jamesingtonthethird James

    Gross.

  • http://youtube.com/jamesingtonthethird James

    I SHANKED THAT GIRL FOR YOU

    Shanked=stabbed? I’d be careful.

  • andrizes

    Hello Marina!

    I really really enjoy watching your clips. I have a question for you: where does the word ‘condom’ comes from? Thanks!

    Keep up with the good work :)

    Andrei.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx — in b/w coffee cup & ash tray

    i’d hit it (nsfw).

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    Do you want to [play] with my [TOY]? :lol: UGLY STICK – A DEMO
    ……………….Todd Rundgren – Hello Its Me

    bang on the drum all day

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Since the word Frak has now entered my consciousness, I think it is only fair that we keep this versatile word a euphemism. So, here is a tribute to the word Frak.

    OK, cue up the Four Seasons by Vivaldi, lower voice an octave or two and here we go.

    Perhaps one of the most interesting words in the English language is the word Frak. Out of all of the words in the English language that begin with the letter F, Frak is not yet considered to be the F word, but could. It’s a magical word that just by its sound can describe pain, pleasure hate and love.

    Unlike most of the English words in the English language, Frak is not dervide from German yet, but is derived from the word Fuck which is derived from German and is used by Alessandra Torresani aka @BambolaBambina from the TV series Caprica.

    Frak falls into many gramatical categories. As a transitive verb for example, John Fraked Shirley. As an intransitive word, Shirley Fraks. It’s meaning is not always sexual. It can be used as an adjective such as John is doing all the Fraking work. As part of an adverb, Shirley talks to Fraking much. As an adverb enhancing an adjective, Shirley is Fraking beautiful. As a noun, I dont’ give a Frak. As part of a word, abso-Fraking-lutely or in-Fraking-credible. And, as almost every word in a sentence, Frak the Fraking Frakers. You must realize that there aren’t many words with the versatility of Frak such as in these examples.

    Fraud: I got Fraked at the used car lot.
    Dismay: Oh, Frak it.
    Trouble: I guess I’m really Fraked now.
    Aggression: Don’t Frak with me buddy.
    Difficulty: I don’t understand this Fraking question.
    Inquiry: Who the Frak was that?
    Dissatisfaction: I don’t like what the Frak is going on here.
    Incompetence: He’s a Frak off.
    Dissmisal: Why don’t you go outside and play go hide & go Frak yourself.

    I’m sure you can think of many more examples. With all of these multi purpose applications, how can anyone be offended when when you use the word Frak. I say, use this unique flexible word in your daily speech as it will identify your character immediately. Say it loudly and proudly, Frak you! Fraking-A!

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    What’s so unsafe about hitting her at work?
    I’d do her anyplace. :mrgreen:

  • wetsuit5

    AAHHHH!!!
    I’m having visions of winning the contest and “Dude” showing up for the date.
    And I brought a rose and a heart shaped box of chocolates for Marina but not a new beat-up ball cap.
    I’ll have to dress up as Dudette.
    Can I borrow a wig?
    And a stroller for our Baby Gorby?

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    Abracadabra – Magic Trick :cool: Hi sami999…Marina at her prime! :lol: …ELO-Strange Magic

    Check out the new Magic music video from Selena Gomez. Its a cover of Pilots 1974 song for the Wizards of Waverly Place The Movie soundtrack

    …but hardly making a joke; she made magic and a tent for selling bananas—magic, eh :lol: peace and have a great day

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/cufan71 cufan71

    :shock: Holy FRAK!

    Back in the old days frak wasn’t such a bad word! At least I didn’t think it was! I’m just old school! I love the classic T.V. show so much better :!: :grin:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/cufan71 cufan71

    :cool: Homework GREAT lesson Marina :!: I like your new hair color! Euphemism example: Gratuitous Beaver Shot :mrgreen: :lol:

  • agentglass

    case file
    activity log
    indefinite monitoring
    encrypt

  • bigredgumball

    oh! theres the 17th century term “lil crow in the hole” or the even older “making the beast with two backs” which to me seems a tad raunchier then just saying what you would have in the first place.

  • http://www.theendoftheinternet.com/ Chemikal

    God bless the Internet! (read post)
    You never know where your motivation may originate.

  • erif nezorf

    i want to request the word… [procastinate]

  • http://www.tony-bernhoffer-photography.com tonyb

    The Bible does say that Jesus is closer to the poor and the common man. His earthly father was a carpenter. He remarked as he evangelized Israel FOXES HAVE HOLES, BIRDS HAVE NESTS BUT THE SON OF MAN HAS NO PLACE TO REST HIS HEAD. Jesus had had to sleep under the stars at times, too!

  • http://www.tony-bernhoffer-photography.com tonyb

    I think he meant he stuck his dick or shank into her. Those suburban frannies must spend alot of time out on the golf course! they make sex, with a woman a beutiful thing so vile and dirty.

  • http://www.tony-bernhoffer-photography.com tonyb

    The New Testament and apocalyptic BIRTH PAINS tranlsates into wars, famine, plagues and earthquakes.

  • skye william schneider

    I would like to know about the origin of the term or word Eye and Eye, 1 and 1, Me and Me or I and I. whatever you choose. I think I know, I want you make sure that it is a falsehood that “you suck”. hahaha Just fooling around I am not even wearing my blow me hat ATM. I will be sure to tune in if you can tell me more,

    thanks

    Redwood Small Axe

  • Peter

    Dear Hotforwords,
    I would like to know the origin of the word [Quebec].
    And if you have time the word [Jail] or [Jailer].
    Thank you ,
    Peter

  • http://youtube.com/jamesingtonthethird James

    PLEASE ASK ME QUESTIONS!! HA!! This should be funny! :mrgreen: http://www.formspring.me/jamesington

  • http://youtube.com/jamesingtonthethird James

    I bought a heart shaped box of godivas for marina and I ate them, I went to london and forgot to get her some more! Don’t tell her! :roll:

  • http://youtube.com/jamesingtonthethird James

    Any other way and you would get vibrated out.

  • fglrx

    HOMEWORK
    A pretty bunch of funny euphemism for sex :oops: is available in the lyrics of the Bloodhound Gang’s song “Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo“. :oops:

  • Greatest Potential

    I have a close relative who just recently got on this kick about refering to hand wipes and towelettes as hand jobs

    We were at dinner the other night and it came up. “Oh, your hands are greasy, let me get you a hand job” :oops: {cringe}

    I mildy glanced around the table and noticed some faces dropped as I found myself attempting to put on my best poker face so as not to burst out laughing in the middle of dinner.

    misunderstanding perhaps

  • bigredgumball

    lol omg thats funny :lol:

    I spilled my juice! Quick get me a hand job! :mrgreen:

  • clockteacher

    word request [scapegoat] thank you :smile:

  • specialops

    requesting the origin of the phrase [That's what she said]
    :shock:

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    Did anyone understand this tweet about Never put both feet in your mouth at the same time…? I must be a dumb blond since I don’t get it. The way I see it, after putting both feet in the mouth, one has not run out of options — there are still possible actions one can take to derive increasing pleasure: a man would have 1 foot left over and a woman would have 2 tits and more left over for a mouth; and for most people there would be several other regions left over for a mouth. I suppose an euphemism for all this would be just the innocuous word “eating”.

  • http://mraugust.multiply.com augie

    nice one i gotta get a hat like that BLOW ME :lol:

  • http://mraugust.multiply.com augie

    you have apps for iphone and ipod how bout trying to get apps for google phone that would be awsome thanxs sweetie

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    Should have ended the previous comment with a dialog a’ la’ the current lesson: “Hey Babe! Isn’t is time for us to be eating?”

  • samuel3d

    No, i havn’t been misunderstood a Euphemism.

    here’s a word for Euphemism for Sex, Coitus :lol:

  • fishymack

    That was a great one, Marina! I love your fake pick-up guy!

  • synfulpinion

    I’d like to request the phrase [pardon my french]

  • http://cargalmathbooks.com jmcargal

    Euphemisms for sex:
    Mom and daddy dance.
    The beast with two backs.
    Discussing philosophy (since no one actually discusses philosophy anymore).
    Exchanging bodily fluids (that is what is known as a “weak euphemism”).
    Making whoopee. (Song by Walter Donaldson and Gus Kahn.)

  • swampwiz

    Mr. “Blow Me” and I need to go cruising for chicks.

  • swampwiz

    Marina, you didn’t mention this one:

    “Making bacon”

  • seesixcm6

    Dear Marina,
    You look so gorgeous as a brunette, and the low-cut dress with tiny straps show your shoulders so well. What a lovely woman you are! As the kid in a baseball cap trying to score, I think you did a cute dance! :smile:
    You and your subscribers have already furnished more euphemisms for having sex than I can. It really would be sweet for you and me to practice romantic liasons, but I’m afraid you don’t know or can trust me very well. :shock:
    When I take my trip to Riverside this month for a class, I find that you are going to Northern California to speak at a different Conference. I wonder if you are getting paid more than I am as a speaker? :?: Since I won’t drive to LA to visit the Blu Jam Cafe, I’ll just attend the Airplane Museum at March Field in Riverside. They have 70 historical airplanes on display, so I’ll have a chance to take many photos. I need to use up two rolls of old film for my 35 mm camera and to take more photos with my digital camcorder. :grin:
    I hope you have a safe trip and return home! :razz:
    Seesixcm6

  • kaibanator

    After watching this video, I couldn’t help but think of the song Foxtrot Uniform Charkie Kilo by The Bloodhound Gang. They like their innuendos ;)

  • kaibanator

    D’oh I just realized someone else has already posted this song link up. Oh well :lol:

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard
  • http://www.tony-bernhoffer-photography.com tonyb

    I have heard MAKING THE BEAST WITH TWO BACKS for sex, LET’S MAKE SOME NOISE, GIMME SOME SHAKY PUDDING.
    WC Fields use to say “Godfrey Daniel” instead of GODDAMN!

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Marina, as I was listing some of the euphemisms below, I came to realize that some of them probably are not euphemisms in the strict sense. That is, some of those words may come under the category of slang, vulgarities, idioms, jargon and many other types of expressions.

    Interestingly, you actually did touch on that at 4:31 where you mentioned the phrase “kick the bucket”, and then said, “… even that is almost vulgar.”

    So, I suppose that some words which are slang, are probably not euphemisms, but many if not all euphemisms are slang or perhaps idiomatic. For example, the phrase, “I’m in a pickle” is normally considered to be an idiom, and I suppose it could also be a euphemism depending on what the original idea was being replaced. It’s fascinating to me to find the small shades of differences in definitions that separate one word or phrase from another.

  • Dalek

    I’ll let the generator do the work …
    Hit “Reload”
    “SWEET”

  • pandion

    I’m fond of Shakespeare’s “The beast with two backs.”

    Great lesson, thank you as always.
    Having the rude bar guy in a Von Dutch shirt was a good choice.

    Caprica looks interesting. I look forward to more episodes.

  • ymerguer

    Hi Marina,

    I´d like to request the word [tattoo]

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/seanhoutx seankim

    [commando]

    sometimes people simply do without … without undies. where did this term come from?

    [commando]

  • da vinci

    hey hotforword i was wondering if you can do a video on the origin of Friday The 13th and why its an unlucky day. i didnt see it in the words list so yeah lol please.

  • bigredgumball

    omg WC feilds! I used to love those shows… pretty dry humour tho….

    “and its not a fit night out for maaaan or beast *poof*” lol

    “now stand clear an keep yer eye on the ball” lol

    “The city aint no place fer a lady… but pretty men go there” lol

  • kaibanator

    Speaking of euphemisms, this video reminded me of a segment of the show “Whose Line Is It Anyway”, called “If You Know What I Mean”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc73X7aLdpU

    I belleve, there’s more of these segments on youtube. :)

  • georgee

    WORD REQUEST – [responsibility]

  • elmo1869

    You might have to consult Jeff Foxworthy but I doubt he even knows. Or on the other hand It would be much more fun hearing it in your form…. [RedNeck]

  • ten0692

    This video gave me an idea for a word request…

    [ INNUENDO ]

    Would appreciate it much!

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    :smile: …low and behold!—BEGGARS ARE CHOOSY also CHOOSEY…AN OLD CHILDHOOD FRIEND FROM california used the word [disenfranchised]….(on being traded{contract sold} in football)….Go Willie….we-weWillies—1234___123…567 :lol: Fox On The Run -Sweet
    ….how is Marina?…the port of HOTFORWORDS :!: :roll:

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    here is one…”the best part of you dripped down your mommy’s leg”…Roundabout
    :lol: ….thanks for the link :!: ahead of the lamps and in the tunnel we crawled :roll:

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    :cool: forgot this one….go CARDINALS!!*!!…[roxy]

  • http://www.tony-bernhoffer-photography.com tonyb

    Nott I that I am a fashion critic only when I beat my meat and dream of prettt girls like you. but I had seen one doccumentary on the Geisha girls of Kyoto Japan and their pleasure district. sex is pleasurable, rightl? They showed the Giesha girl making herself up with that eroltic white makeup and red lipstick. she had put a kind of cap on her head like of a nylon stocking and then she put her super expensive Geisha wig on her head. there was some odd women at the very weir ond neighborhood Kroger’s who had one of those women’s nyloix hern stocking caps over her head like she was going to put on a wig? I asked her if she wore multiple wigs while she worked in the store but she denied it. that is one oddball grocery store down the road. do you put one of those women’s nylon stocking hosiery caps over your head when you put on your wig? Half of the fun in having sex with my former wife was watching her fis herself up for me like at 19 and I was 19 she was like my sex idol. but she and her family hurt my feelings too much over the years to where I do not give a damn about her now!! workers of the world unit

  • mrflower

    I’m wondering about the origin of the word [concierge].

  • http://www.tony-bernhoffer-photography.com tonyb

    I had seen on the History channel a Goth wedding. and the bride was a short big boobed brown haired young woman, she put on her black dress and her collar necklace on her neck and makeup. and then she said she fleted she felt transformed into something special or beautiful. and to me she also looked beautiful. to me that is just a comstume like those pegnoir nightgowns my former wife used to wear. some chick i wrote to in russia thougth that the pegnoir nightgown was dirty or burgeeeous? I could buy one fior my former wife for $50-$100.00 at Fredericks.. that is not beverly hills or rodeo drive. but the slightly round faced short slightly chubby large breasted goth chick on history channel looked pretty to me too!

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    wc fields the bank dick
    …this is what was said; she said :lol:

  • http://www.viergever.net wwvierg

    hi marina:
    was wondering about the origin of the word [syzygy]
    also, although unrelated, do you know, or have you heard of elena filatova? google “pluto’s realm” and/or check out elenafilatova.com
    she’s ukranian-but i find both of you very trippy ladies
    10-4, over & out

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    I hope some get how advanced civil society was…….Absynthe Minded – Pretty Horny Flow (live)

    :lol: Absinthe louche
    :lol:

    …I got a pole that needs shortening! :smile: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Edgar Allan Poe Biography Part 1
    ….capricorns have [RuLes] and has [rUlEs] :cool: :arrow:

  • http://www.rockyfrisco.com hotrocky

    1. Damn! You’re funny!
    2. I REALLY like the dark hair!
    3. Is that a six string Uke? How totally cool!
    4. Are you really vegetarian, or were you just kidding?

    Here’s one I like, as an insult: “Is that a Virginia Slim in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?”

  • CD

    Come on over and we can give your camel toe a manicure. :roll:
    Lets go to my place and eat the furry clam :o
    In China the male organ is referred to as the ‘little brother’ and female as the ‘little sister’. (You have to be REALLY careful if you wish to actually SPEAK about an actual relative!) So lets go back to my place and I will introduce my little brother to your little sister…is a very common euphanism.

    Blonde or brunette, they BOTH work for you!

  • nighteye

    Marina, your hair looks great with some colour in it :)

    That said, what is the origin of the word [flattery]? Does it have anything to do with something flat?

  • Rijk

    lol you got one : )
    don’t be afraid to answer it ; )

  • Rijk

    lol we have done this homework already ; )

  • http://www.theendoftheinternet.com/ Chemikal

    I don’t know if anyone actually asked your permission to call you by your first name, but I’ll go ahead anyway. What was your name again? Oh, Hot For Words, right. So your first name must be Hot.
    OK Hot, did you see the new “most viewed” video of all time?
    No, it’s not Harry and Charlie with their adorable childhood drama. It’s actually a new video called “Hari’s comedy act”. What’s going on here?

  • lightnjack

    I wonder about the origin of the word [girl]!

  • wordreet

    I always thought Flattery was some Irish guy.

  • wordreet

    Now this is a superb coincidence. Because I was recently looking for meanings of stuff like Egad, and Odds Blood! Really old English expletives.
    And apparently they are collectively called Minced Oaths!!
    Hahaha! I laughed so much when I read that! :lol: :lol: :lol:
    Minced Oaths! Hehehe!
    A euphemism is a minced oath!

    Breaking and entering with the red nosed burglar!

  • ploughjocky

    What is the origin of the verb [to pit]? For example: She pitted her wits against his. Another example: They pitted their strength against the oncoming force.

    Mademoiselle Orlova, you are a remarkable young woman and your creation HotForWords is ingenious and extremely inventive!! Thanks for freshening up the internet.

    Highest regards,
    Ploughjocky

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Isn’t it interesting that the video only has a rating of 1.5 Stars and that the video is posted on a channel that only has 32 Subscribers. However, that channel is associated with a record label and Hari is listed as a comedian on their MySpace site. If you consider the demographics of Hip Hop and UK, Indian, Tamil, Asian influence, then I guess those numbers could be real, but do look suspicious nevertheless.

  • http://www.theendoftheinternet.com/ Chemikal

    Suspicious is right!

  • http://mikechimeriblog.com MCLIJazz

    I liked the brunette wig.
    Another euphemism for dead is “pushing up daisies.”
    Thanks for introducing me to Alessandra Torresani. :smile: I started followed her on Twitter immediately after the lesson. That doesn’t mean I’ll watch “Caprica,” but I might.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    Michael Flatley, perhaps? ::razz:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    Cape Flattery, Washington State — farthest northwest point in the “Lower 48.” :cool:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    ***Homework:***

    Misunderstood euphemism: I thought a “you-femme-ism” was the sort of insult in which one man derided another’s virility by comparing him to a woman. :roll:

    Sexual euphemisms:
    “snugglebunnies”
    “Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?”
    :grin:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    And speaking of Polynesia, maybe [taboo] too! :grin:
    (I think it’s [kapu] in Hawaiian.) :???:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    That sounds like a “reverse euphemism”: i.e. using a vulgar term for something innocuous. :idea:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    So this Frenchman was exploring a marsh alongside the St. Lawrence River, spotted a great blue heron, and exclaimed “Que bec!” :razz:

  • Dalek

    thanks for the Yes!

    squeeze my lemon mommy…

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    [Condom] is obviously a large [condominium], the latter being the diminutive form of the word. Not to be confused with “con dome,” a hemispherical jail. :mrgreen:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    [Slav]
    [Slovenia] :smile:

  • http://www.salmamohammad.blogspot.com aina1037

    I would like to request the word [masurbrate]. I never got it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    “Reverse euphemism”

    Plumbing uses the terms “male fitting” and “female fitting” for pipe fittings, one of which slides into the other — blatantly sexual imagery for non-sexual objects. :oops:

  • CampKohler – Sacramento CA

    During the ’60s, the engineers at Aerojet General (who must have had too much time on their hands) wrote a manual called The Care and Use of the Heat Injector Receptacle. You can probably guess what kind of equipment that was. :lol:

    PS: Don’t bother searching for it; it’s not on the Web (yet).

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  • ben_tooke

    On the topic of euphemisms and the way they can be used to chat up women..i was wondering why women are called “birds” or “chicks”..is it because birds are aesthetically pleasing?? i dont know.. so the word i am requesting is either [bird] or [chick] or both if they are related!

    Thanks x

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Regarding the All Time Most Viewed video on YouTube.
    Earlier today, Chemikal posted a comment about a video that was listed as #1 of All Time on the Most Viewed videos page.

    At around 2 PM, the number one video “Hari’s comedy act”
    showed 186,361,277 views. (that’s million) I didn’t get a screen shot, but the commenters of that video mention the specific views. They also mention 4CHAN. They also mentioned Avril’s video which as scammed into #1 position last year.

    As of right now the views are shown as 128,712 views (thousands) and the video is still listed in the first position. YouTube is also showing their banner as doing maintenance right now, so I imagine they are busy trying to get the video off of the Most Viewed list and trying to figure out how they got hacked.

  • herehere

    HotForWords,

    Here’s my suggestion “Artificial Water Fluoridation”

    Radium radionuclides, lead, arsenic, beryllium, vanadium, cadmium, mercury, silicon, fluoride and bauxite are contaminates that are in the artificial water fluoridation chemical used to fluoridate the water. Lots of those are proven carcinogens. The EPA has maximum contaminate level goals for lead and arsenic set at “0PPM” and fluoridation contaminates our water above EPA MCL goals.

    This article has information about that.
    http://www.smilesofbellevue.com/flouride-effects.html

    Unfinished Business: Congress & Fluoride
    http://www.fluoridealert.org/conference/2006/hirzy.pdf

    if you want to read more information see the articles and links listed here
    http://www.youtube.com/user/v2w3

    also look up the Delaney Clause which water fluroidation violates because fluoride and the contaminates that the water fluoridation chemical contains are carcinogens.

    Thanks herehere

  • herehere

    HotForWords,
    I tried to edit my last comment but it did not work.

    I wanted to add this information about the carcinogenicity of fluoride.

    Submission to CA OEHHA
    “Fluoride and osteosarcoma”
    http://www.fluoridealert.org/ca.prop65.connett.html

    Fluoride’s Mutagenicity (Genotoxicity)
    http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/cancer/mutagen.html

    Fluoride & Osteosarcoma (Bone Cancer)
    http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/cancer/osteosarcoma.html

    DEAN BURK
    http://www.whale.to/cancer/burk.html

    Dr. William Marcus’ Internal Memo
    UNITED STATES EPA
    http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/cancer/ntp/marcus-memo.html

    and there is lots more information on that topic but the message would get to long. Be sure to see the Health Effects Database at the Fluoride Action Network. The database has a lot of info and many many pages of info. Please look at all that.
    http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/

    Look up the following names in the search area at the Fluoride Action Network
    http://www.fluoridealert.org/
    Dr. William Marcus
    Dr. Hardy Limeback
    Dr. Robert Carton
    Dr. William Hirzy
    Dr. Kathleen Thiessen
    Dr. Joey Hensley
    Dr. Dean Burk
    Dr. Yiamouyannis
    Dr. Yiamouyiannis
    Arvid Carlsson, MD, PhD, Nobel Laureate in Medicine

    Really hope that you do a show on my suggestion
    “Artificial Water Fluoridation”

    and here is my site for more links and info
    http://www.youtube.com/user/v2w3

    Thanks herehere

  • ymerguer

    Not just Polynesia, I found. The two separate meanings of this word, with different origins, is interesting.

    First, “tattoo” as in “body tattoo”, and the other as in “military tattoo”.

  • http://www.myspace.com/rexinomondo rexino13

    Euphemism – My cousin Joan always signed off LOADS OF LOVE. Later on I received emails from guys and girls with LOL. I was petrified. I never told. Much later I had to know. I asked. I was told LOL meant laugh out loud. I don’t know if that’s an euphemism or not but it certainly made me laugh out loud in embarrassement. :razz: Rexino 13

  • agmlll

    I would like to know the origin of the word [hillbilly]. Thanks.

  • agmlll

    [Hick] would also be interesting.

  • agmlll

    And [cracker] meaning a poor white person of the rural south

  • agmlll

    Sorry, you already did [cracker]. I should have checked first.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx — in b/w coffee cup & ash tray

    haha.:D

  • daporras

    Dear Marina,

    In light of the recent challenge to California’s Proposition 8 in a Federal Court (taking place in San Francsco), I was wondering if you could tell us what the origins of the word “marriage” are.

    Obviously, I am not asking you to pick a side or anything but, considering that everyone keeps talking about what the traditional definition of “marriage” is, I thought maybe knowing the origins of the word might be interesting. I hope this isn’t too controversial.

    Thanks! Keep up the great work.

    Daniel

  • Ron

    I’m interested in the origins of the word [tacky]. I find that American culture is lately the tackiest through out the world. :)

    Hope you are having fun today?

    Sincerely,
    Ron

  • http://q2600.blogspot.com q2600vlog

    Have you done a lesson on the word “geek?” And should I beware sexy geeks bearing gifts?

  • Prospero

    Here is a word suggestion, Marina (and by the way you look stunning as a brunette).

    Weird. Why is a person or situation that is strange or odd referred to as “weird?” That’s weird, isn’t it?

    And, what about logorrhea? If I have logorrhea, does that mean I should go to the doctor?

    Oh, and once again – atheism, agnosticism, and maybe even autotheism.

    Have a great day, Marina.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx — in b/w coffee cup & ash tray

    p11!
    man, get your ass over here.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    Hello Rijk,

    Speaking of “euphemism,” I read that Miep Gies just “passed away.” Is there a lot in the news about it in the Netherlands?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    With St. Patrick’s Day not long off, we could also request [blarney]. :grin:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    Now, what in tarnation are you goin’ on about? Them ain’t no “euphemisms” for “good old boy.” :evil:

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    [LATIN] is a [TANGO]Olga Arefyeva – Tabakera
    …tangled pipes make better smoke…air-flow…TANGO ARGENTINO- Clase 1 con Mora Godoy
    .. a polka and [abstinence] or Am I absurd=silly :grin: :razz: :lol: …please pass her pipe :cool:

  • http://favstar.fm/me Che Mero

    WOW!! What have I been missing??

    Who’s the HOT brunette? I’d liked to do the bump and grind with that chick.

    {Marina, Che is busy working on a project and missing all the fun. I miss you all.}

    XOXOP

  • Rijk

    Hello Evan,

    Yes Evan a great lady has passed away.
    She has been on the news (tv) but no more than one minute. but it did say she passed away in hospital at the aged of 100. and you also got to see a little appearance of her.
    Tonight Jacqueline van Maarsen is on tv. She was a girlfriend of Anne Frank and the girl next door of Miep Gies.

    it’s all in dutch:
    http://cgi.omroep.nl/legacy/player?/ceres/nos/rest/2010/POW_00259591/bb.20100112.asf&start=00:03:17

    if it doens,t work
    http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl/
    she is on the left

  • Rijk

    lol = fun in dutch. ; )

  • Damiana

    loved this when you told me, Rijk.. that’s awesome. : )

  • doncross2bear

    Hi Teach,
    Euphemisms for sex that come to mind are “stash the carrot” “horizontal mambo” “go to the submarine races” and good old Brit “shagging.” My personal favorite is “carnal gymnastics” Lots of euphemisms in old Blues recordings, like “getting one’s ashes hauled” courtesy Sleepy John Estes, and “getting one’s broom dusted” from Kokomo Arnold and Robert Johnson. Back then they had to be inventive.
    Ooh, ooh, the homely kid in the back of the class has a question!
    Is there a term for a “reverse euphemism?” Mr. Owen touched on this earlier, where an everyday action can be known by a less than savory term, usually at the expense of another individual who is not participating in the conversation. As a youngster I have been embarrassed by using one of these in the presence of the Wrong Person. Not keen on citing examples as I don’t want to offend any fellow students.
    One more question, then I’ll leave: Did you buy the “BLOW ME” cap yourself, or did you enlist the aid of a dude? Curious as to the facial expression of the cashier if you bought it yourself. Love to Teacher.
    xoxodc

  • pat

    I thought of four euphemisms. For sexual intercourse-”hanky panky”, “making love”, and “in the garden eating tulips”. For someone who has died-”fertilizing the lawn”. My grandpa use to say “see a man about a horse”! He also said “keep your nose clean” which I never quite got.

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

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  • fglrx

    Is there a term for a “reverse euphemism?”

    It’s called a dysphemism.

  • Damiana

    fun.. : )

    male anatomy and/or sex: she don’t eat meat, but she sure like the bone

    mental derangement: toys in the attic

  • pat

    I like brunette. I like Von Dutch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3mGLrxmHuc

  • pat

    More mental derangement-Lights are on but no body’s home.-He/she has slipped a cog.-He/she has lost a bolt.-Bats in the belfry.-The funny farm.-Off making finger paintings and dust cloths.

  • originalistrick

    Que paso, mi familia de la Marina? I see I’m behind on my homework.

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard
  • http://www.AppleBail.com applebail

    What and where is the origin of the term [Wench], as a seductress, female.

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard
  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    [jelly-roll]…[misery-index]…A+ and next assignment :lol: …09) Texas Blues/Jelly Roll – Nitzinger @ Mar y Sol Festival

  • gunju221

    Idk, I think that the New Word of the year should be [bubbleocity] Idk, i love saying that word!

  • daddyvahn

    I would like to here about the word antiquarian

  • okay4now

    Hwk: The worst (funniest) ever for me was at a resort when a woman offered, “Let’s go rub pee parts”. <———Guys get this s&%t too! She was as hard to shake-off as a barnacle on a rock, all this while her husband was asleep in their room. Proving the old adage: don't talk to strangers…

    Extra: Hey, wanna go play Adam & Eve?

  • gstop87

    i think the next word should be Fusion

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  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    I heard the lesson again. I had to look up knocking boots; I then inferred bumping uglies because I knew about uglies from James’ mention of them; — and I could see the meaning of all the others!

    By the way, what’s the origin of [knocking boots]? Urbandictionary has two theories:

    The knock refers to the man’s hips hitting the woman’s ass, which produces a slapping sound. The motion literally knocks her boots (buttocks).

    and

    Knockin’ boots is an old western term for having sex. Derived from both he and she stripping down and slipping their boots under the bed which sometimes made a “knocking” noise. Sometimes the boots are/were left on during sex and the boots would knock during all the action.

    The second reminded me of Shania Twain’s Whose bed has your boots been under?.

    By the way, unlike the way I infered, urbandictionary does not relate knocking boots and bumping uglies based on uglies being a type of footwear; so [bumping uglies].

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    If you didn’t see Marina’s tweet earlier, she tweeted:

    “@jack There’s a grammatical error when a person’s twitter is private. It shouldn’t be “their” – should be “his or her” http://bit.ly/5e38pL

    What Marina is referring to is the Twitter notification message that says:
    “This person has protected their tweets.”

    Do you know why that sentence is grammatically incorrect and why Marina’s correction is stated correctly?

    For me and most people, this grammatical topic is a big headache.
    Interestingly, I had difficulty finding a decent elaboration of the proper use of “their” in terms of subject-verb agreement as most of the articles that I ran across talk about the proper use of “their” versus “there” instead.

    Here are some links that support Marina’s correction of the Twitter message.

    This is an excellent site with grammatical annotations.
    Subject – Verb Agreement

    When to use Their, There, They’re, and There’re

    The 20 Rules of Subject Verb Agreement

     
    Marina, let us know what Jack has to say about it and let’s see if Twitter will change that message.

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    A better explanation for “knock”:

    : Eric Partridge, “A Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English,” 5th ed. (1961), says “knocked up” means (1) exhausted, (2) pregnant. For the second meaning, “low: C. 19-20; mainly U.S. [From] ‘knock,’ v. 1.”
    : That definition of “knock” is “(Of a man) to have sexual intercourse (with): low coll.: late C. 16-20. . . . See ‘nock,’ n., for possible etymology.”
    : “‘nock.’ (As the posteriors, esp. the breech, it is [standard English . . . ] The female pudend: low: late C. 16-18. . . . Lit., a notch.”

    The excellent, suspenseful movie In the Heat of the Night uses the term “knocked up” to mean pregnant.

    Found yet another “origin” for “knock boots” on urbandictionary:

    hetero vaginal sex. The sound made sounds like knocking boots, unless one of the partners is fat

    My guess: Although “knock up” and “knocking boots” share the word “knock”, they have different origins; “knock up” relates to a girl who has become pregnant because someone has “knocked her up (her vagina)”; and “knocking boots” relates to the cowboy story mentioned above.

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    The issue here isn’t subject-verb agreement but the use of the proper pronoun for the owner of the tweets: the owner of the tweets, “This person”, is a “him” or a “her”; and “he” or “she” has protected “his” or “her” tweets.

    I would just use the generic “his” (rather than “his or her”).

    And I suppose there will be those who object to “This person” on a page for, say, a corporation: “The XYZ Corporation has protected its tweets.”!

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Hi Hs4Mm,
    The key error is subject-verb agreement since the singular subject “person” does not agree with the original word “their” which is plural.

    The word “their” is a form of the possessive case of the word “they” which is the nominative plural of he, she, and it.

    The usage of “his” or “her” alone would be considered sexist to many people and writers have been struggling with that for many years.

    I think the use of “his or her” is perfectly acceptable in this single sentence message. If there were many sentences, then a different usage would make sense. An alternative would be to restructure the sentence.

    See usage note under the entry of “he”
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/their

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard
  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Hi Hs4Mm,
    To elaborate, the specific grammatical structure of that Twitter message is Subject-Verb-Object (SVO). The idea of Subject-Verb Agreement is very well documented and known, but the idea of Subject-Object agreement in numbers is maybe not as well documented except to say that the object should agree in number with the subject, but there are exceptions.

    I think, in Spanish and maybe Russian and other languages, the S-V-O agreement is more rigorously defined than in English and that is why maybe one sees more errors as shown by the Twitter message.

    I think either one of the following reworded twitter messages would be correct as the verb agrees in number with the plural word tweets.
    “This person’s tweets are protected. ”
    “This person’s tweets have been protected. “

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx — in b/w coffee cup & ash tray

    so it isn’t “ungrammatical” (whatever the fuck that’s supposed to mean). i used “their” in contexts like that, too. “his or her” is just too long.

    i’ve said this before:

    consider this.
    wrong: “a word x belongs to the category F, thus it behaves in such-and-such a way.”
    right: “x behaves so-and-so, therefore it belongs to F.”
    that’s a difference.

    words are not fixed, inflexible once they enter language. “their” simply replaces “his or her” in order to get rid of the longer phrase and indicate that it is a person of either male or female gender (sex(us)).

    it says right there on the page you linked to:

    (used after an indefinite singular antecedent in place of the definite masculine form his or the definite feminine form her): Someone left their book on the table. Did everyone bring their lunch?

    it’s not ungrammatical. i don’t see the problem.

  • wounded_tiger

    I would like to know from where the word PUSSY for Virgina came from and why we call it PUSSY

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Hey äläx, I had seen that twitter message many times and I never thought that there was a problem until Marina pointed it out. When she did, I applied several rules to the sentence to see what makes sense.

    In general, I would agree with you and say that there is not a grammatical problem, however, to drill down to the very specifics, I would argue the following finer point:

    When you look at the 2nd definition of “their”, it says:
    “Used after an indefinite singular antecedent in place of the definite masculine… or definite feminine…”

    The key word “indefinite” refers to a word such as “someone” in which case “their” makes sense.

    But, in the twitter message, the key word is “This” which is pointing to a specific singular person. So, in one case you have a word such as “someone” which is a collective or indefinite singular and at another time you have the case of a specific singular, “this” as in “This person”.

    So, I would argue that the word “their” does not apply to a specific singular person.

    Let’s look at another set of rules that I use.
    Refer to the following link.
    http://www.wikihow.com/Use-There,-Their-and-They%27re

    Look at Step #2 where it says, “Use their to indicate possession.”
    and then look at the example:

    “My friends have lost their tickets.”

    I have no problem with that sentence since there is agreement in numbers and the word friends is indefinite, but it is plural and not singular. (i.e. them, they)

    Now, look at Step #4, testing of usage by replacing the word “their” with “our”. Using the twitter message above we get.

    “This person has protected our tweets.”

    That sentence is grammatically correct, but has lost its intended meaning. One can also replace the word “their” with “my”. See tips at the bottom. Again, the sentence is grammatically correct, but has lost its meaning.

    “This person has protected my tweets.”

    So, even though I might agree with you in general, the onus is on the understanding of the first part of the original sentence, which is “This person” which is specific singular and not indefinite singular.

    If the message were rewritten as:
    “Someone has protected their tweets.”
    then, I would have no arguments.

    What do you think?

  • http://youtube.com/jamesingtonthethird James

    I don’t know what it is. I have a feeling. It is this theme. Maybe I am not commenting as much because this theme feels too proffessional. I kinda liked the old comment theme. Where we had colours and things were easier to read then. I love this site but this comment theme just feels too big and spacious

  • http://youtube.com/jamesingtonthethird James

    ThRae are the discussions I love having here!! I don’t find it too bad.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx — in b/w coffee cup & ash tray

    hey karl,

    yeah, alright, i see what you mean.
    i’d probably argue that “this person” is somewhat indefinite in nature in this context.
    let’s assume you’re talking to a friend of yours about something, suddenly you remember a tweet. now, if your friend knows twitter but doesn’t know the person who wrote the tweet and/or doesn’t care and/or it’s not relevant to the conversation you’re having, you can say something like: “this person on twitter said …” which your friend will probably interpret as “someone on twitter said …”.
    so, your friend will replace “this person” with “someone” which is definitely indefinite.;)

    the page you linked.
    their phrasing is somewhat ambiguous as it gives you the impression that the intended meaning has to be the same. “if the sentence still makes sense” though does not say that the two sentences have to have the same meaning.
    in the case of “their”/”our” this is impossible anyway:

    (1) their heads exploded.
    (2) our heads exploded.

    both (1) and (2) “make sense”, morphologically, syntactically and semantically. (and you’ll surely agree that the usage of “their” in (1) is grammatically correct, right?)

  • doncross2bear

    Cool. Thanks for the info! dc

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Correct äläx,
    it would be grammatically correct.

    Another way to test the original message
    is to replace “This person” with a name
    such as Bob. That message would
    then read;

    “Bob has protected their tweets”

    which is not correct.

    Oh the challenges of language.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx — in b/w coffee cup & ash tray

    well, i don’t think replacing “this person” with “bob” is a valid way to test the grammaticality of the sentence. of course “bob” is not in agreement with “their”.
    point is, you already know that bob is a name given to males. you know bob anyway.
    so, to me, this is an unacceptable specification, “bob”, obviously being male, predetermines the pronoun that has to be used.

    what about nicknames that refer to an inanimate object? say … “handkerchief”.
    how about abstract entities? like “democracy”?

    shouldn’t it be “its” in the above cases?

    no, it shouldn’t because those are just nicknames. the mistake is to attribute a gender to the nickname.

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    I am aware of the subject-verb agreement issue, but in the sentence as written and in the proposed correction, “their” (or the construction “his or her”) is a pronoun, not a verb. The pronoun needs to agree with what it represents.

    To further elaborate, the verb in the sentence is “has protected”. The sentence as written does have the proper subject-verb agreement. An error of Subject-Verb disagreement would be to replace “has” by “have” thus: “This person have protected his or her tweets.”

    The use of the verb “have protected” would be proper with a plural subject: “Tom, Jack and Jones have protected their tweets.”

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    A postscript to: 103.1.1.5: The sentence: “This person have protected their tweets.” has two errors: subject (this person) and verb (have protected) don’t match, and pronoun (their) doesn’t match what it represents (this person).

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    When the columns were being designed, I mentioned the background color was not OK. At that time, it came across as very strongly not OK for me; but now I have gotten used to it. I now have trouble trying to figure out what was bothering me about the background color: something to do with it being too pale or lacking contrast.

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    The Subject (This person) and the verb (has protected) are in agreement. The pronoun (their) does not agree with what it replaces (this person).

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    The “knock” in “knock up” is likely to be related to the “to strike” which is in the origin of “fuck”.

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm
  • doncross2bear

    Hi, Teach!
    I think you may have a product endorsement opportunity here:
    http://www.cleavagecaddy.com/index.html
    Of course I’m only kidding, and not trying to be sexist here. I’m attracted to you mostly because of your brain. Although I must admit to casting an appreciative eye on your other shining attributes, all of which are Class A, top drawer, state of the art, reet and complete, and otherwise OhhSoFine.
    xoxoxodc

  • pat

    Oh those Darlins! Thank God for their fore mothers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldie_&_the_Gingerbreads http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIfru7b9KOE Come to think of it…[darling].

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    [darlin]…I have got thatISIS album…did not know about the “GINGERBREADS”…t h a n K s……I knew something years ago this—Stay With Me” – Ten Wheel Drive w/ Genya Ravan
    …Pat you make HotForWords more fun….thanks to all+most=Marina :lol:

  • agmlll

    Please explain [schadenfreude]

  • pat
  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    If a body (like the Earth) is orbiting around the Sun, we say it is closest to the Sun at

    [perihelion]
    and
    farthest from the Sun at [aphelion].

    In 2000, perihelion for the Earth was on January 3, 2000, and aphelion was on July 4, 2000. :oops: Sometimes I see leonard as a [pest] :x My globe sits in the sun; and I called it global warming….. :cool: ….[tropic] of capricorn and [tropic] of cancer :smile:

  • http://hotforwords.se matsrg

    Lovely video as always :razz: I also like your “new” hair color :cool:

    MatsRG
    From my iphone

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/bsomebody13 bsomebody

    First off, love the hair. I think it makes you stand out so much more. :razz:

    One of our daughter’s friends was visiting at the house. Mrs. Somebody aske the guest if she like a drink. The young lady replied, “No thanks. I’m straight.”
    Mrs. Somebody paused, pondered, then exclaimed “What does your sexual preference have to do with being thirsty?”
    I thought my daughter would just lay down and die. :roll:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/bsomebody13 bsomebody

    I tried to find a vid for ZZ Top’s Pearl Necklace. The whole song is one euphemism after another. It’s actually really clever. Couldn’t find it, though. :cry:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    Word request:

    [lulu] as in “A remarkable person, object, or idea.”

    Supposedly this is the meaning behind lulu.com , the famous self-publishers’ technical-assistance website.

    Related word:
    [doozy]: “Something extraordinary or bizarre”

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    New words needed for English:

    Does anyone know any less [awkward] non-gender-specific English terms for “he/she”, “him/her”, “his/her”?

    Urban dictionary lists “hisher” (pronounced “hish-er.”) Maybe we should just use heshe, himmer, hisher? :???:

    In some languages, the third-person singular pronoun IS non-gender specific — like “it,” but animate / human. Spanish uses “su” and Welsh uses “ei” to mean “his or her”. :cool: Maybe we need to raid some other language for this useful word.

    “English doesn’t borrow from other languages. English follows them down dark alleys, knocks them down, and ransacks their pockets for spare vocabulary.” :lol:

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Hey agmlll, my gosh, those Germans have a word for everything. I mean, if you look at my username, you’d swear I was German. Oh, that noise you just heard was Marina falling off of her chair having a moment of laffing pleasure at the expense of my misfortunate name.

    Schadenfreude is the happiness at the misfortune of others!

    So, agmlll, that is a great request. Of course Marina would want me to personally tutor her in all of the nuances of the word. I mean, she would have to spend like twenty four hours a day and several weeks with me in order to really get a feel for the word. :mrgreen: :lol:

    Here is a great article on the word Schadenfreude which zooms right into the undercurrent meaning of the word.
    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-schadenfreude.htm

    Good ole wiki has some deeper thoughts on the subject.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude

    Avenue Q – Schadenfreude – live
    This YT video is from the Broadway musical Avenue Q. The sound is low quality due to the live recording in the theater.

    Avenue Q – Schadenfreude – studio quality
    This is a high quality sound track from the musical Avenue Q.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    Date.com problem:

    Marina, the date.com page, that your “Win a date with Marina Orlova” links to, says my body type is required, but they don’t give any options under “please choose” and I can’t type anything in. I couldn’t complete the registration.

    So maybe I can just tell you that I run three miles a day, have a black belt in taekwondo, and do the annual polar bear swim. Good enough? :lol: You know enough else about me to avoid me. :razz:

    (PS lunch and a walk on the beach would be enough for me.) :smile:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    Scratch that. I just went back and the “body type” options are available now. :roll:

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    … and then neuters the heck out of words just to be politically correct or non-sexist depending on what side of the third rail you are straddling.

    Evan, here are enough articles to fry your brain for several lifetimes on the subject.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_language
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_neutrality_in_English

    Here is a short summary on the use of gender neutral pronouns.
    This article summarizes what äläx, Hs4Mm and I were debating about below.

    @Hs4Mm, look at item #3 of the link below which says:

    3. Someone has left their umbrella.
     
    The third is also all-inclusive, but it stands open to criticism that singular and plural are mis-matched.

    http://www.usingenglish.com/profiles/tdol/archives/000352.html

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    “Ze, zir, zim.” Love it! :grin:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    “Tragedy is when I get a paper cut. Comedy is when you fall down an open manhole.” (I forget who said that.)

    [schadenfreude] would be laughing at the guy who fell down the manhole. :twisted:

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    @äläx,
    I’m replying to your comment 103.1.1.4 below.

    Overall. the following comments are not to argue against you, but to actually support your points.

    Replacing the phrase, “this person” with a personal name such as Bob is valid in terms of testing the validity of a grammatical construction. In other words, it is a way to reflect on the rules and to assist me in deciding which pronoun to use. Here are some possible scenarios.

    The original Twitter message to be tested:
    “This person has protected their tweets.”

    The possible replacements:
    “Bob has protected their tweets.” – Incorrect
    “Bob has protected his tweets.” – Correct

    “Sue has protected their tweets.” – Incorrect
    “Sue has protected her tweets.” – Correct

    Several examples of words that seem to be singular, but are actually plural.
    “Company XYZ has protected their tweets.” – Correct
    “The pants have protected their tweets.” – Correct
    “The scissors have protected their tweets.” – Correct
    “The crew has protected their tweets.” – Correct
    “The dollar has protected its tweets.” – Correct
    “The dog has protected its tweets.” – Correct

     
    Take a look at the following link of a short article that supports your arguments.
    http://www.usingenglish.com/profiles/tdol/archives/000352.html

    Here is the part of the article that is the focus. Notice the indefinite use of the word “Someone”.

    1. Someone has left his umbrella.
    2. Someone has left his or her umbrella.
    3. Someone has left their umbrella.
     
    The first is the traditional way, but it doesn’t allow for women. The second is all-inclusive, but it is wordy. The third is also all-inclusive, but it stands open to criticism that singular and plural are mis-matched.
     
    . . . though I use the third.

     
    ————————————
    Summary
    ————————————
    What I have just done is to demonstrate the full circle that you and I have been talking about.

    Repeating what you said down below at comment 103.1.1.1 and to which I agree.

    … words are not fixed, inflexible once they enter language. “their” simply replaces “his or her” in order to get rid of the longer phrase and indicate that it is a person of either male or female gender (sex(us)).

    I agree with that and it dovetails right into the agony that Evan expresses below and what the author of that short article expresses and specifically where that author says that he uses the third form of the above examples, i.e.

    “3. Someone has left their umbrella.”

    and that author mentions;

    “… and English is very inconsistent about singular and plural issues.”

    @Hs4Mm did you take note of that?

    So, I am in agreement with you, other than the finer point I made, of which I have not seen any specific examples on the web.

    —————————————————–
    P.S.
    —————————————————–
    So, this begs the question. Had I been the author of that Twitter message, how would I have constructed the message? Exactly as it is now shown, i.e.

    “This person has protected their tweets.”

    However, since Marina brought up this subject, how might I construct the message now? I tend to favor either one of these sentences, and I’m sure many other forms are possible.

    “This person’s tweets have been protected. ”
    “This person’s tweets are protected. ”

     
     

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Oh, also, Twitter could easily replace any indefinite word with the personal name of the Twitter user. The Twitter message could read.

    “hotforwords tweets have been protected.”
    “aLx0r tweets have been protected.”

  • Dalek

    Why not just kick out “their” all together?

    “This person has protected tweets.”

  • Rijk
  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Hi Dalek,
    That is a good point and if some programmer wanted to conserve bits and bytes, then that might be a possibility.

    However, the message could be interpreted as being ambiguous since your sentence reflects upon the state of some tweets instead of an action of protecting the tweets

    In other words, the person owns a set of tweets which are protected. In that sentence the word protected would be an adjective modifying the noun tweets. In the original sentence, the focus is on the verb action of protecting the tweets.

    Since it is an informational message, where the details are not a concern or an issue, then I would say that your message is just as valid. :smile:

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Holy Frik & Frak, that “Hari’s comedy act” video is still up on YT on the “All Time – Most Viewed” board, now with 175,336 views.
    WTFrak?

    Refer to Chemical’s comment below.

    Marina also tweeted about that video.
    “Nice little scam going on on YouTube.. look at the Most Viewed Video of All Time: http://bit.ly/656nfh only 128k views!
    7:00 PM Jan 11th”

    Two days ago, the video had 186 million views, then presumably, YT changed the views to 128k views as Marina had tweeted.

    Now, the views are 175k views or an increase of 47k views in two days or appx. 24k views per day. The video is listed as the #1 All Time most viewed and the 2nd most viewed video “Charlie bit my finger – again !” has almost 150 million views.

  • wordreet

    Pussy, originated via the earlier use of the word ‘Cat Houses’ meaning brothels, from whence came many cat like noises of the women fighting and arguing with each other. And presumably other actions also caused these nioses. ;-)

  • jodiefoster17

    please do [guinea pig]!! both the orgin of why it is called that (it’s not from guinea, and it’s not a pig), and why a “test subject” is referred to as one.

  • http://www.youtube.com/mountainboy32 mountainboy32

    I love you as a brunet your are gorgeous :lol: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: enough said!!!!!!!!!!!

  • CampKohler – Sacramento CA

    “Rumpa-bumpa” is the euphamism that comes to mind whenever I see M, but at only 112 lbs, it could be argued that the proverbial reasonable person could foresee the occurrance of bodily damage. Thus for reasons of legal liability, I will have to forgo the experience.

    You believe that, don’t you? :sad:

  • daddyvahn

    actin like a fool with my pants on da ground

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :roll: I am so confused! What did you just say?? I don’t understand. That’s just me! Oh well. Better luck next time!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    Thanks from me too, fglrx.
    Amazing how much I’m learning about English from folks here for whom it’s a second language. :smile:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    Thanks, Rijk. I enjoy listening to Dutch — from a distance, it sounds like English with a heavy accent. It’s easy to hear the kinship between the two languages. :smile:

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl
  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Hs4Mm, what you said is correct however that sentence has an object, Subject-Verb-Object (SVO) and there is no phrase that I know of that refers to agreement in numbers to the object which is part of the subject. All three parts of the sentence, subject, verb and object have to match in number. I should have specified that the object was the culprit that did not agree in number, but opted to use the very well known phrase “subject-verb agreement” which touches on the subject-object agreement.

    Specifically, the Object agreement is a huge sore spot and the net is full of critiques because that topic is not well defined and there are many inconsistencies in the English language, some of it due to the gender inclusion issues.

    Look at my summary above at comment #115 and look at the link I provide to a short article where the author provides examples with the umbrella.

    Here is that link.
    http://www.usingenglish.com/profiles/tdol/archives/000352.html

    Notice that the author refers to number agreement problem twice once referring to this sentence.

    “3. Someone has left their umbrella.”

    specifically to the word “their” which is plural which does not match the word “someone” which is singular an analog to the Twitter message.

    Notice that the author mentioned number agreement issues twice.

    He says:
    “… it stands open to criticism that singular and plural are mis-matched.”

    And then again:
    “… English is very inconsistent about singular and plural issues.”

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    About fraking time, YT finally removed that “Hari’s comedy act” from the All time – Most Viewed board. The #100 All Time – Most Viewed video views has 31 million views. The HFW Antidisestablishmentarianism video now has 11 million views.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/bsomebody13 bsomebody

    That’s the right song, but I was looking for ZZ. Close ’nuff. Thx

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm
  • http://www.theendoftheinternet.com/ Chemikal

    I don’t know, let me check.
    [Jackpot]

    “Tragedy is when I get a paper cut. Comedy is when you fall down an open manhole and die.”
    Mel Brooks

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    There are lots of theories on the internet about unlucky 13 having ancient origins (biblical times or even earlier), but I think it came from the hangman’s noose and platform: A hangman’s goal is to break the neck and not to strangle and not to sever the head. Strangulation is cruel and can take a long time; severing the head leaves a mess to be cleaned up. The factors that determine how a prisoner will die include the number of loops in the noose, the height by which the prisoner is dropped, the prisoner’s weight, the prisoner’s height etc. It turned out that for most prisoners, the number of loops needed was 13 and the platform’s height was such that it needed 13 steps. So people associated 13 as being unlucky. Some additional corroboration: the cultures that consider 13 lucky do not seem to be among those who use punishment by hanging: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//13_(number)

  • kolia

    what is the origin & meaning of words [vajazzling] & [sabotage]

  • wetsuit5

    Marina,

    Special request for a video.

    Can we please have a video with your Poindexter character, from the lesson with the same name, go out on a date with the Dude character from the lesson euphemism?

    The word wouldn’t matter, but the results would be [outragious] and over the edge funny.

    Could even have Poindexteria chasing after Dude.

    Thanks

  • tr77379

    Marina…lets play Australian. You can get on top of me and I will lick you down under.

  • http://www.DamnNearGeni.us AllynTygrrr

    Wowww… Wherever your head is at sure looks like a fun place to be.

  • Elijah

    horizontal hustle
    SII (stick it in)
    get rollin
    and then going to eat at the all american pink taco stand is something else all together

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    Religious euphemisms:
    “Jiminy Christmas” for “Jesus Christ”
    “Gosh darn” for “God damn”
    “Dyn byw” (“man alive”) is a Welsh euphemism for “Duw” (God)

    “Bloody” is a dysphemistic contraction of “by our Lady.” :cool:

  • originalistrick

    Howdy, leonard! Thanks for that-I don’t know how you do it, but you have an uncanny knack for picking me up when I need it, whether with your words or your tunes.

    My attendance here has been sporadic, and I haven’t said much of anything when I have been here. I’m sorry. Since the first of the year I’ve been dealing with work issues, illnesses, injuries, and death. (And now we hear of Jody. Damn!) Oh, well. Life as we know it, right? Just gotta cowboy up!

    I’ve missed you and the folks and Marina. Just wanted to touch base and say thanks for the thought.

  • originalistrick

    “Wanna do the horizontal bop?”

    “How about a game of mattress polo?”

    I laughed all the way through this. You at your best, Marina. Hilarious, educational, technically great-one of my new all-time favorites. Thanks.

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leoNard

    Bottom line: soft/hards words or cold/hot 4 WorDS :oops: …now GET the back in work/slavery :lol: …the rest you take up with the mind…mental chambers…temPle…brain sex and the new age of {Jack_-_Offs}

  • Anonymous

    ive got long hairs. bibi!!!

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