Site Redesign

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In the interest of simplifying things.. I will be doing a MAJOR redesign of the website over the next day or so.
What this means is that things will be broken here and there until the changeover is complete.  Sorry about this… but I felt that it was getting harder and harder for me to communicate with you guys on the site as it grew and grew.  So this new design should make it easier for you all to see the new posts and to go where the action is :-)

UPDATE

I am going to stick with this design and borrow elements from that other design. I liked the clean nature of the comments.. so I will emulate that, plus I liked some other aspects.. so be patient.. I will bring back as much of that other design as I can!

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  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    First?! :???: :mrgreen:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CantwrCymreig Evan Owen

    But seriously, a few comments on the site & redesign:

    I’ve greatly enjoyed the site as-is; have always been able to find my way to whatever I was looking for (though occasionally had to hunt.)

    My cousin did comment on “visual noise.” I have to wonder if that is inevitable, given how much there is to see on this site.

    The ominous “black space” to the right of the comments is an aesthetic consideration in re-design. But with luck, it will fill up with high-paying advertisers who will increasingly reward Marina for all the wonderful free [infotainment] {hey — have you done that as a nerd-word yet? I’ll have to check} that she’s been giving us for the past two years. :grin:

  • http://favrd.textism.com/person/chevolay Che Volay

    OK, Do what you got to do.

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Action is good.

    I enjoyed the site as it currently is as it is one of
    the best sites ever. I never had a problem with it,
    but I can see that for a non tech newbie that it
    could be overwhelming on the first visit.

    OK, I’ve got my hard hat on, go for it.

  • greatestpotential

    It’s good to test some things out and see how it goes.

  • greatestpotential

    Alright. Tested this out and I’m going stir crazy. Would you be okay with putting it back the way it was(?)

  • originalistrick

    Oooh, Marina…I don’t know about this…

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    Can you give me a little time to work on it? It’s not even remotely done.

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Hey hey hey :-)
    That’s what she said.

    I see you are having way too much fun.

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    I like it. It is coming along fine and
    I know you gots tons more stuff to do. :-)

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    This design (though, not even close to being done yet), will make it easier to follow what is going on. It’s really rough right now as I have a ton of stuff that needs to be done!

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Way kewl.
    I love changes but not the grueling work. :-)
    If you needs any help doing checks or whatever I’m home all day.

  • greatestpotential

    you guys are the techies. while you work it out i will bite the pillow and sob and stuff and then rejoin you’ze.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    Yepperie!

  • thegorn

    GP, check the Popular Posts
    Were number #1

  • greatestpotential

    #1

    i like the sound of that.

  • thegorn

    your name keeps cutting through your text you may need to shorten it…

  • darlingj

    This is just like building a new house!
    The structure is up – now comes the furnishing and decorating…
    It’ll be fun to watch it come together!

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    Soul lost yet I’m finding my way… :P

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    Kind of scary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Big red [dragon] :oops:

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    Saw the magnet demo. Three things immediately jumped out to me. Consider the following:

    1) Is the main offering Lessons or are Lessons, ShoutOuts, Press etc. all on equal footing? A home page that lists all posts reverse-chronologically says that all categories have the same priority.

    2) A key feature of previous design was availability of the five most recent posts at a single click: a list exposed all five items to a single click. Magnet has “Featured Articles” box which requires multiple clicks to browse; I do see the “jump to page” circles — but one would be jumping blindly.

    3) I suspect the 4 boxes at the very top will be a good improvement over corresponding boxes in previous design. Magnet’s scheme of boxes at the avoids clutter, and — more importantly — clearly indicates their special nature: the stuff in the boxes represent a special collection (“play list”) or a special, sitckey, timely post (e.g., book promo or win a date promo) and they have lower (or special or limited or temporary) priority compared to the regular posts.

    PS: While making this comment, found that while up and down arrows work within the text entry box, the left and right arrows do not. I am using on Windows XP Pro but using FireFox 3.5.3.

    You are doing good!

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    A common reaction to any change is to resist it — but I do not feel that way at all toward this redesign; I am actually eagerly looking forward to the finished product!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    test to see if it cuts off…

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    Left and right arrows don’t work for me either.. weird.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    only a portion of the total comments are displayed for each lesson.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    What do you mean? It currently shows about 100+ comments per page.. I had to limit it as some posts have 1000+ comments.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    I wish I had the resources to be able to build it out while it was not live! But what can you do?

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    I really like the look of the new site.. it’s so much easier to read and just feels refreshing! Still lots to do!

  • greatestpotential

    may(be) i don’t like to be inconvenienced.

    sis will be arriving soon. i need some chow.

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    You’re doing great.
    Love the nav links at the bottom.
    I miss the Hey hey hey already

    Don’t forget to take a breather, rest your eyes
    and get your shoulders messaged.

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    I’m loving this…Don’t Look Back

    :-)
    change is good
    Lykke Li – “I’m Good, I’m Gone” (acoustic version)
    … :P

    :oops:

    Marina is a good and hard worker, for a QUEEN

    :-) free test…buy texts

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    for each lesson i am able to see a single page of 100+ comments. the page does not show any option to access the other comments. additionally, it seems to me that they are not showing the most recent comments. the “funny video about twitter” page shows the last comment being made on aug. 20th, which can’t be right.

  • darlingj

    Hey, It’s fun for us to watch the process!

    I’l bet PK is almost [giddy]! ;=)

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    I wish I had the resources to be able to build it out while it was not live!********** But what can you do?*** *******Jennifer Lopez – Do It Well
    :P

    :-)
    …hope I’m helping[staff] or state of staff infection of music.. :cool:

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    You bet your bippy :-)

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    what in the hell is a bippy!?

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    Time for a new deal and lets change partners…way too cool…[cards]

    [thingy things]…Wink Martindale – Deck Of Cards

    …[falsies] :lol:

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    A wisconsin thingy old boy!!!!!!The Wrest…..Bet Your Sweet Bippy
    …not for the weak of weeks minded :-) :oops:

  • greatestpotential

    more of a literary feel to the design
    see if this cuts out
    doesn’t bother me if text does that
    a few lines here and we’ll see
    what happens..

  • greatestpotential

    what if i do this…
    jut text down a few lines

    roger that,
    wilco

  • greatestpotential

    why me

    *sob*

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    people from wisconsin have “bippies” that are apparently known for being sweet.

  • Greatest Potential

    okay
    redid my hfw nic
    test

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Good deal. You are making progress on the
    Latest Lessons widget scrolling left and right.
    Looking good.
     
    Take your time and relax.
    We are with you.

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    Lesson no. one…5 Lessons – Pat McCurdy

    Swine Flu And Martial Law

    hey buzz//||^||\\Garbage perform in the summer sun in Germany.
    :P :-) Garbage “Queer” Bizarre Festival 1996

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Roan & Martin Bippy
     
    The comedy show called “Rowan and Martin’s laugh-in created a bunch of memorable catch phrases, one of them was “You bet your sweet bippy”. Bippy was never defined, but probably menat, “You bet your sweet ass”.
     
    Laugh In on wiki

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    I just think this is lovely… :-) the Author :-)

    John Cale – Fear Is A Man´s Best Friend ( & Chris Spedding)
    …[fear]

    …Saint [Fears] :P I’m hAppY 4 U… :-)

  • Greatest Potential

    Leftfield – Inspection (Check One)

    check

    1

    check

    <blockquote2

    check

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    YouTube has some videos for “Mussorgsky’s Boris Godunov” — can someone point me to the start and stop times for the “Love Music” from Mussorgsky’s Boris Godunov? Thanks.

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    PS: The channel RADAMES1983 has the entire Mussorgsky’s Boris Godunov; it takes 37 videos to make the full Boris Godunov; here’s page 1 which has 25 videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RADAMES1983&view=videos&query=Boris+Godunov

  • Greatest Potential

    You are wanting Mussorgsky – Pictures at an Exhibition, conducted by Godunov, yes(?)

  • Greatest Potential

    oh, ok. now i understand what you are looking for

    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RADAMES1983&view=videos&start=80

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    I think Boris Godunov is the title of an Opera by Mussorgsky; see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILhnfR6Y74 Somewhere in this Opera is a piece of music called “Love Music”.

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    That list of videos is all gobbledygook to me; can you please tell me the exact video and the exact start time for the music called “Love Music”?

  • Greatest Potential

    Had my Borises mixed up. Yeah, that’s it, and I’m sorta dumb.

  • Greatest Potential

    YT user RADAMES has the entire opera on his channel

    starts here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1roqjdKTNfE

    maybe that helps

  • Greatest Potential

    See, it would help if there was a playlist because then the videos would all string together one after another and play through til the end. Since each video is limited to around 10 minutes in length and there are many segments it seems like gobbledygook. It would have been helpful to create a playlist for that and it would have kept from making us look stupid too.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    fuck

  • Greatest Potential

    If it was me I would have bought the dvd off ebay. I can’t stand seeing an opera in chunks like that. It’s disruptive to the flow of the drama.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    just testing, the obscenities are working fine.

  • Greatest Potential

    what a clever chimp you are

  • Greatest Potential

    you went and said fuck all by yourself. congratulations.

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    I found this: http://twitpic.com/hoiem It would not surprise me if what RADAMES1983 calls the “Fountain Scene” other people call the “Love Music”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZW7g5PC7I8

  • Greatest Potential

    smeared cornhole peanut buttered greasy fetid orgasmic sphincter muscle spasm

    yup

    in working order

  • Greatest Potential

    Mussorgsky’s Boris Godunov is a Russian Opera in Four-Acts.

    Act I. Six Years Later
    In his cell, an old monk, Pimen, is finishing his chronicle of Russian history. His novice Grigori, learns the rumor of the murdered Dmitri and conceives the idea of seeking power as a pretender. In Scene II, at an inn near the Lithuanian border, Gregori enters with two vagabond monks who have escaped from the monastery with him. Shortly, a policeman appears, searching for a runaway whose description matches that of Gregori. He rushes from the room able to escape.

    Act II. The Tsar’s Apartments in the Kremlin
    Things are not going well in Russia and everyone blames the Tsar, who is also tortured with with guilt over the murder of Dimitri. Prince Shuisky, a rival boyar, brings the news about a pretender claiming to be Dimitri, who thinks he is the resurrected tsarevich. The guilt of Boris turns into hallucinations and madness.

    Act III. A Castle in Poland
    Princess Marina, the daughter of a Polish noble has fallen in love with Dimitri the pretender. Her Jesuit confessor Rangoni hopes Russia can be converted to Catholicism and under Rome’s dominion. He tells Marina to charm Dimitri. In a garden before the Polish castle of Mniszech, meeting with Dimitri, Marina urges him to attack Moscow.

    Act IV. An Emergency Meeting of the Boyars Council in Session
    The Russian nobles are discussing the false Dimitri’s revolt. Prince Shuisky relates how he saw Boris hallucinating about the dead Tsarevich. Boris enters, protesting his innocence, but upon hearing the story of a miraculous healing of a blind shepherd at the grave of the murdered Tsarevich, he collapses. As the bells toll, Boris falls dying, begging God for mercy. Shuisky and the other nobles place Boris’s young son, Fyodor, on the throne.

    In the Kromy Forest, peasants attack a nobleman and two Jesuit priests. Gregori, the false Dimitri, passes by with his army, headed for Moscow. A simpleton, the only one left on the stage, sings a lament of Russia’s troubled times.

    Note: The scenes of Act IV are sometimes played in the reverse order

    Also:
    Mussorgsky’s opera exists in different versions. He made two, while Rimsky-Korsakov added two more. The opera was re-orchestrated by Shostakovich in 1959. The story remains roughly the same in all versions *

    *source: somewhere on the internet

  • Damiana

    yay. the fucking obscenities are working..

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    I was serious looking for what some people call the “Love Music” in Mussorgsky’s Opera “Boris Godunov” I found the entire opera broken up into 37 videos here I know nothing about music, and would not recognize the “Love Music” if it came on and broke my ear drums.

    But I found something the channel RADAMES1983 titled the “Fountain Scene” I am not a 100% sure but this might be the scene with the “Love Music”. And at about 1:16 into this scene, we have the words:

    You cannot sleep at night dreaming of your Marina!

    The reason I was looking for that music was because I found out it was one of Ayn Rand’s favorite pieces and was curious to hear it. I never knew this Opera had a character called Marina! (I now know that the character is Marina Mnishek, played by Irina Arkhipova.)

    And so this is the third coincidence in recent times! The first was you finding the poem with the title “Hot For Words” in which the poet had a sketch that somewhat resembled you; then you found that painting of a woman with exposed tits whose figure somewhat resembles you. And now I run into this love scene involving Marina!

  • Greatest Potential

    whoopty fricken doo

  • Greatest Potential

    i challenge you to a frick off competition. lambastic basterial phornicator of biproductulicus, perveyor of nether regions of tepid damp undergarments, silted clumps of encrusted swine feces dripping with vomitous mucal wretching discharge fudge tunnel ooze.

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    I just finished reading the subtitles of the first part of the Fountain Scene. That Marina seems to be a horrible woman! If this is the “Love Music” that Ayn Rand liked, it must have been only the music, not the words. That woman is just a power-luster, too evil to contemplate! Maybe the second part will show that she said those things as a way of testing his love; but even then I might still think she is horrible to have tortured him so — unless she then gives him the right to use her as he pleases for his own pleasure! Let me know find out what happens in the second part.

  • Greatest Potential

    or..

    you just don’t respond back and stay boring

    so cool

  • Damiana

    shitfuck
    shitfuckyeah
    shitfuckdamn

    yay! :D

  • Greatest Potential

    “Every theatre is an insane asylum, but an opera theatre is the ward for the incurables.”
    Austrian conductor Franz Schalk

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    OK … I saw the second part, and I just have one word for the scene, for those two characters, for the author:

    Bullshit! Crap!

    I do not like either of those characters, do not like how they conduct their lives, do not like how they express what they call their love. I do not think that that woman is capable of love; and I think that that man is a wuss. And the last scene with him kneeling before her is too horrible! Disgusting! Yuck!

  • Greatest Potential

    swimming naked in a filthy dumpster filled with dirty used surgical needles- vomit clam juice out both nostrils!

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    Can’t edit! Blockquote should have ended after “Crap!”

  • Damiana

    comments don’t follow like the old design. Oo

  • Greatest Potential

    Vicious diva. She wants a toddler to rub mud off it’s tender innocent face and make sore, someone to repremand, and not a man to love. Learn of her dark secrets.

  • http://www.edgeofheavenbook.com wyo550

    KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    Tonight was the first time I listened to a (part of an) Opera; might be my last time too! It’s too weird!

  • Greatest Potential

    oh. now surprise me and say something pro design.

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    ok …I found it!!!

  • Greatest Potential

    Hs4Mm

    Ha! You may have to comedy short to get your mind off that ;)

  • Greatest Potential

    what exactly did you find! :o

  • Greatest Potential

    KIII: Keep It Interesting, Ignoramus

  • Greatest Potential

    Let’s get Oscar Goldman on the phone.

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    :oops:

    a bundle of sticks featuring an axe, indicating the power over life and death.

    notice the LION

    RAP not CRAP..THE J.GEILS BAND LIVE @ HOB “Must Of Got Lost”
    ….Recorded on April 28, 2009 @ HOB Boston. Funny I Lost Peter for awhile in this one! And probably a few brain cells!

    having one on the word lady–HotForWords

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    If I just wanted to hear the music of the Fountain Scene without the words (instruments only, no male/female voice), can I buy something? What would it be called? Who would sell it?

  • http://www.edgeofheavenbook.com wyo550

    How interesting and concise that “suggestion” of yours is! Thank you for validating my existence!
    Forget my KISS suggestion to Marina to clean the site up and make it simple (enough to see the disgusting scribble you’ve posted, GP, time and again, all over this one single web page…like a chat monkey with nothing better to do). You’re right GP! Marina should keep the site “interesting” and cluttered AND brand-diluted… so that the people (and other chat monkeys) who really think you ARE the Greatest Potential can search for your wisdom and insight and be fulfilled by finding it! You really are the greatest potential this site has! Thank you for being you!

  • Greatest Potential

    Find out which scene and then you can locate the specific track from the opera and you can get an mp3 version that you can download from here

    http://www.classicalarchives.com/album/074645257129.html

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    I made it so that it shows the comments in order of oldest at the top.. but it shows the pages latest first… in other words, if you want to see earlier comments you click the button “Earlier Comments” at the bottom.

  • Greatest Potential

    It was nothing really

  • Greatest Potential

    I appreciate your positive critique of wit mixed with sarcasm in what would have been yet an otherwise boring excursion of unfullfilled and undelivered potential.

    It’s a dirty job but someone has to do it.

  • Rijk

    Marina, could you give a tour, cause I am kind of lost and don’t understand why things are at the position they are.
    Thing I dislike the most: the reduction in size of the resent comments, only thing to see where the other students are.

    The site feels not finished, but maybe that tour …….

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx

    the button “Earlier Comments” at the bottom

    there is no such button?

    umm. are paged comments back or not? i’m confused. oO

  • Greatest Potential

    So go and call me a so-called chat monkey and I will take that hit if it means we get some actual conversation going here because when no one posts anything here then maybe they are just behaving like shy chat monkeys who need a little proding and there’s nothing wrong with that, oh no, so something productive came out of this at the very least and so it’s not a total waste.

  • Greatest Potential

    I really didn’t mind the disgusting scribble response you gave to me. It reminds me of lazy peeps I’ve had to do work for. Like a mad dentist pulls your teeth out of your head to get a single meaningful response in the form of a painful agonizing scream from forced tooth extraction.

  • Greatest Potential

    Thanks a lot. I look forward to more meaningful conversations with you einstein.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    How do you not see the button at the bottom of this page?

    http://www.hotforwords.com/2009/03/24/funny-video-about-twitter/

  • Damiana

    yeah, there’s a “previous comments” button. will redux for comments be brought back?

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx

    oh, there it is. hm. how many comments are on one page?

  • Damiana

    100+ per page.. i’m sure depending on the length of each comment.

  • Greatest Potential

    I’m glad I stuck around to see how these site ideas are developing. My sis already took off. She has to be at her aerobics class early in the morning.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx

    100+ could be 500. :X

  • Damiana

    100+ could be 500. :X

    holy hella. :/

    wonder how many the old design’s pages had..

    kinda missing nesting comments. it was easier to go up to a previous comment and reply to the right person. Oo

  • originalistrick

    Didn’t mean to sound negative. I’m sorry, Marina. All the time & effort you’re giving this is obvious. Already seeing neat aspects you’ve added (it’s 2:25am here).

    Hasta manana, Dearest Teach.

  • Rijk

    wtf, my comment ended up smack in the middle of the other comments, I know you had doubts about top or bottom for the last comment, but smack in the middle is your solution?

  • Greatest Potential

    things are zipping right along

  • pennsyltucky9

    Hm. This may take some getting used to…

  • Rijk

    I know that one year hurricanes have a male and the other a female name.

    Looks like hurricane Marina Just teared through the site.

    my comment ended up smack in the middle of the other comments

    Its either you or me that has gone Stir-Crazy,
    (probably me)

    Could you grab me by the hand and get me out of this mess. I am lost. :(

  • pennsyltucky9

    Yeah. Weird, huh? But hold on a while… Keep your seat belt fastened until the plane has come to a complete stop.
    :)

  • pennsyltucky9

    Test.

  • Rijk

    I hope your right.

    To me it looks like a rush job. A great idea in her head, but not in practice.
    Even the edit function has bought it.

    Let do a headcount in a week or so on the forum and exchange tips on the site, where to look for / find things / where to meet.

    Ps Marina could you take George out of the firing line he is now way to much exposed.

  • Rijk

    Seatbelt?
    I just grabbed a parachute, crawled to the door and am ready to jump out, and see you guys in a week or so at the airport.

    System check, what does still work? The reply mail still works, she is down, but not out, counting 1, 2, 3, …..

    Happy landing.

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    Never EVER jump out of an aeroplane while the engine is still running! (Oh! No smilies.) :LoL:

  • Rijk

    Bob Just grabbed me by the chute, let go Bob its not a Tandem.

    Those tools are gone, so just the link:

    Marina’s sitebuilding adventure:
    http://www.dezweedt.demon.nl/camping.jpg
    or
    http://blog.petervancorler.nl/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/guust.jpg

    no hard feelings M ;)
    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/335606196_6b68122b0f.jpg

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/bsomebody13 bsomebody

    Wow! Things are looking pretty spiffy around here. It is very… different. I am such a creature of habit – must be gettin’ old or something. It does look really nice around here.

    We need some saw dust on the floor and some chicken wire around the band – that’ll make things homey again.

    (missing my smileys, and too tired to type them in…)

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/bsomebody13 bsomebody

    The order of these comments confuses me…

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    Marina, I really like the new look of the site.
    I have one or two points you might like to consider about the design of the “Home” page.
    All the tutorials I’ve read about designing a sales letter or a web page have emphasised the importance of putting as many important points “above the fold”.
    What this refers to is the part of the letter that is seen when it is taken out of the envelope, without having to unfold it to read the rest, and the equivalent on a web page is the initial view of the landing page seen without having to scroll down.
    This is the part of the letter or web page where you have to grab the readers attention and persuade them to read further, before they throw it in the trash bin or click away to another site.
    here is a screenshot of the initial view I see of the home page.
    Notice that not much of the site is seen on this initial view; only the header of the “Latest Lessons” panel is showing, and you have to scroll down past advertisements before you get to “Recent Comments” then “Recent Posts”, “Recent Popular Posts”, “Upcoming Events”, Twitpics” and “Forum Posts”.
    Would it be a good idea to move some of these hidden elements up to the same level as the “Latest Lessons”, immediately below the menu bar, and move the wide “Posts” column down beneath them?
    Some space “above the fold” could be saved by making the top elements take up less room; the Masthead and menu bars take up more than a third of the initial view, and there is a band of blank space above and below the four picture links at the top which could be compressed or eliminated.
    I hope this is helpful and doesn’t throw a spanner into your excellent works.

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    P.S. Why do the comments from “thegorn says:
    September 13, 2009 at 5:36 pm” down to “leonard says:
    September 13, 2009 at 10:40 pm” stay at the bottom of the page and newer comments are added above them?

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    Hi Bob: The test was taken to headquarters; and we all found that the answers made no sentences and the structure flew like a [spruce] goose…uncle Howie’s, the story behind the Hughes h4 hercules aka spruce goose
    …its cool

    OK…my soul is lost in secretsHells Angels – 1930 – Preview [ War film ]
    __ Billionaire HOWARD HUGHES produced and directed Hell’s Angels, the most expensive film ever made of its time. Hughes spared no expense in capturing an exciting dogfight between R.A.F. and German fighter planes, using 137 pilots in all. Hell’s Angels is perhaps more notable for inducing JEAN HARLOW to the screen in her first major film role.

    …my unc had pontiac chief and got turned on to sell grass in hollywood :P :oops: :-) (after ww2)…ride high to go low

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    Because I decreased the level of comments from 5 to 4 and it moved the 5th level deep comments to the bottom.

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    Thanks! I could only play one sample, and it seems to include voice — I could hear a man’s voice start to sing and the sample ended before the voice sang anything significant. I was hoping there would be one without any voice; if I look harder, will I find one or do people not make voiceless opera music? I’ll also try contacting that store.

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    Another mystery solved by our trusty HotforWords. :)

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    I will take your words into consideration.. but I work off of templates and can only customize them so much. My previous site had all kinds of stuff above the line and it was impossible to figure out where the new posts were. I decided to go with the typical blog format where the latest post is the thing you see initially. I also included 4 boxes at the top for important stuff. I know that the site looks less busy than before, but I am hoping it will make for a richer experience for the user.

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    I hope it works out – only time will tell; I’m not able to judge since I know where everything is anyway.
    The new users would be the ones to ask about their experiences with the site.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/capman911 Capman911

    Hey mom are we there yet?

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    Not yet… still working on it!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    We lost “ajax edit comments”… can’t get it to work. Will try to find another solution.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx

    no, why. that’s just fine.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    dig this. from href=”http://www.feministezine.com/feminist/historical/Russian-Women-After-the-Revolution.html”>here

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    ok.. cool!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    oops that was meant for you cap’

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    yeah, who needs editing anyway?

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx

    exactly. one should think that people think before posting. so what’s the point. typos? oh well. whatever, i can live without it.

  • Rijk

    ikke !

  • Rijk

    Video request, could you do one on [ the introduction week of University. And show were the different studio's and he different lecture halls are. Only than the new site as the topic, all the new features and where to find the old ones ].

  • Rijk

    Aren’t you a TA, so you could edit it anyway ? even without Ajax: http://www.alwaysfree.nl/achtergronden/ajax/Ajax_02.jpg

    can’t even test if a link works, who needs editing anyway

    One thing is for sure, without editing there is gonna be a lot more comments… ;)

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx

    without editing there is gonna be a lot more comments…

    no. there was a time when editing wasn’t possible. then she implemented it, then turned it back off for a while, then back on. anyway, there won’t be a lot more comments.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/capman911 Capman911

    I got it Buzz, cool pic. I even read the article. Reminded me of the treatment of women over here during our wars. The women had to endure the same humiliation as the Russian women. If we have another world war and live then the women will rule everything.

  • Damiana

    i like comment edit for when i frack html or typo, but i can live w/o it, too.

    liking the new design.. it’s clean and sleek. : )

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    yeah, thought the article was informative and brief. hmm… a world ruled by women. you’ve got my imagination running.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword
  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Press navigation
    Right now, there is the main Press nav link at the top and a pulldown called Interviews.
    The missing link is the link to the alphabetical press page which is:
    http://www.hotforwords.com/press/
     
    You could add it as a pulldown link from the Press nav link calling it, “Alphabetical List”
     
    You could also add the alphabetical link to the top of each of the pages of abstracts,
    “…/category/press/”
    “…/category/interviews/”
    that would say:
    “For an alphabetical list of press articles, click here”

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    [fried]…f-ck Know fun...NO FUN – STOOGES SXSW 2007
    …keep up the good work and MARINA in here toes….BUTT :oops: :P :-)

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx
  • http://www.youtube.com/user/capman911 Capman911

    Hey Rijk, the TAs don’t have any editing powers least none that I know of. Maybe Jack might have some but the rest of us just help out on the site and help Marina when she needs some help with looking up words or getting up a list for her when she is real busy. We also kinda police the site for trolls. If we need real help we email Marina about a problem and she handles the issue. The is in answer to your comment to Buzz.
    http://www.hotforwords.com/2009/09/13/site-redesign/comment-page-1/#comment-151812

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    I like the YouTube nav link at the top.
    You hover over that link and the “You” turns blue.
    and the “Tube stays red. Pretty neat.

  • Damiana

    lol. true. but i’m a perfectionist.. freakin’ hate mistakes. :/

  • pennsyltucky9

    Rofl.

  • Rijk

    Think just like you on the editing issue.

    Just trying something (could go wrong)

    hey we all make mistakes, not like you’ll go to hell for it.

    So we are on a site for words and the origin of them, and than leave comments with all sorts of errors in them, go figure.

  • Rijk

    Go to Go Daddy and get: http://www.hotforwordstestsite.com and build it there once done, copy the finished one back here.

  • Rijk

    Yes, blue has that power, he helped me out a couple of times ;) So you are TA- ta’s :)

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    Hi there my Dutch friend:

    do that over about the comment..”Go to Go Daddy and get: http://www.hotforwordstestsite.com and build it there once done, copy the finished one back here.

    ” :?:

    ..ps ___I live an area full of Dutch of many historical times in America…[NEW AMSTERDAM]…[natives] :oops: …most are Hollanders{the catholics vrs the dutch masters….indenture times}

  • Damiana

    yeah, rijk.. chaos tends to rule. wtf. Oo lol.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    Done. Thanks!

  • Greatest Potential

    How does that cliché go..

    now we’re firing on all cylinders

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    At present, “Videos” is restricted to Lessons — which duplicates in terms of content “All Words”.

    Also, there used to be “Blog” which was all posts in all categories — could not find this.

    Perhaps, we need “All Words” with drop down to Alphabetical, Video and Random; and a “Blog” with drop down to Alphabetical and Video.

  • http://wired.reddit.com/sexygeeks_2008/?s=top pedanticKarl

    Many links in the footer are missing the “…/category/…”
    directory.

    Example: Footer links
    Pics
    Is: http://www.hotforwords.com/pics/
    s/b: http://www.hotforwords.com/category/pics/

    Other links in the footer requiring “category”
    Videos
    s/b: http://www.hotforwords.com/category/lessons/

    Nerdwords
    s/b: http://www.hotforwords.com/category/nerdwords/

    Shoutout
    s/b: http://www.hotforwords.com/category/shoutout/

  • Greatest Potential

    a good mechanic always checks the spark plugs first

    a gooder mechanic doesn’t even mess with that and just puts brand new spark plugs in

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/capman911 Capman911

    I with you D. I like the edit feature also. I F up alot when I tpye. But if it’s gone it’s gone. Oh well. :frown:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/smokey36bear smokey36bear

    I now half er… have to tink.. damn… think about what I tipe… shit… type before I do it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/smokey36bear smokey36bear

    I like the new layout Marina.

  • Damiana

    me, too, mike. most of the time it’s, “i can type.. really” :/ lol!

  • Greatest Potential

    :| now that the site is back the way it was it looks sorta antique compared to the sleek design we had just minutes ago. :o just josh’n :!:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/capman911 Capman911

    What happened? I left for a while and there was a newer site and come back and it is back the same as before. Sorry Marina that things aren’t working like you want them to. :sad: I believe you’ll get it right soon. :smile:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/capman911 Capman911

    Hmmmm some how I made a comment at the top and it ended up down here in the middle. :lol: I think this is going to be cool for a while as we don’t know where a comment will end up. I know it’s frustrating to you Marina so just Tweet to us and make yourself some Thai soup. ;-)

  • originalistrick

    Hs4Mm,

    Sometime listen to a little of Mussorgsky’s “Pictures At An Exhibition” (I don’t know if you’d want to sit through all of it), and then follow that up with Emerson, Lake, and Palmer’s take on it. Incredible!

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    Guys and gals.. I had to revert back to this design.. the other one really couldn’t handle all of the information I had.. plus it really downplayed everything I have done so far. BUT.. I will be borrowing design elements from that other design.. as there were things I really liked about it.. such as the comments.. they were easy to read.. the fonts were great as well. So keep an eye out.. you will see those elements coming to here. Plus I need to design a way that is easier for people to find my new posts as I make them. If you can think of something.. let me know.

    Thanks!
    Marina

  • heaven here i come

    Keep right on to the end of the road, Marina! Even if it is, like the Beatles song says, a long and winding road. The debate has led to you making far more comments than usual, Marina, which means your face appears more, which can only be a good thing for those of us who can’t get enough of you.

    Seriously, I like what you are doing to the site; the sight of it gladdens me.

    Take care, Marina, and I hope you and Gorby carry on enjoying life as you so obviously do.

    Hugs and more,

    Heaven here I come

    PS Still waiting for Amazon UK to send me your book; this is the penalty I am paying for living in England. Do come and visit us soon!

  • originalistrick

    Evening, Dearest Teach!

    Again, I’m sorry I pissed you off last night. Looking back at my comment, and when I posted it in relation to what you were trying so hard to do makes me feel really bad. You know I’ll support you any way I can in anything you do.
    Heck, you’ve got me. And you know it.

    Always.

  • neuroway

    Ugh… Push some comments par-ci par-là, Capman, see where they end up and try to grasp the power of the logic behind it. Don’t push it too far too fast though, cuz you may get disoriented by your own loquacity in the long term. What kind of cage do you have? I know it can be frustrating to run on an underpowered machine, cuz the quantity of adds which you don’t give a damn about may bring the CPU to its knees, so this may be the reason why we’re back on the road again on the old version, haha.

  • kolia

    marina, eto tebe chto to mznachit, takaja pesnia?

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    To solve something, starting by being explicit about what the issue is helps … from the remarks you have made, I gather the issues you want to address are:

    1) When people see the home page, they need to easily get the correct idea of all that this site has to offer. I would like to add that while it needs to be easy, it need to be “fast”/”at a glance”: what they would need to know at a glance is how to systematically start processing the stuff they are seeing on the home page to understand what the site has to offer — they need not get the content of the home page very quickly, but they need to get the method for processing the home page very quickly.

    2) When they visit an interior page that is open to accepting comments, they need to know quickly and easily: that the page accepts comments, how to go about commenting, how rich are the comments (i.e., how many comments, how many threads) and how to go about accessingg all the comments.

    3) When your game comes out … I have no idea what the game is, whether it is something people would be able to plan on this site, whether it needs to be integrated to the site etc.

    And I think that it is important for you to state explicitly to yourself the purpose of the site, if you haven’t already done so. How you choose to communicate that purpose to the visitor comes after knowing that purpose.

    State the issue in general terms being very exact in the terminology, think hard about it and how to solve it. Then, when you least expect it, your mind will feed you a solution.

    Here’s something to think about regarding your remark “I need to design a way that is easier for people to find my new posts as I make them.”: On the home page, suppose you just took the “recent posts” box and made it huge and/or otherwise jazzed it so people would not miss seeing it — why would this not be a proper solution? I do not think that would be a good solution, but if you state to yourself why that is a bad solution you might see what it lacks and, more importantly, you might come up with a different statement that “easier for people to find my new posts as I make them.”

    That’s my 2 cents!

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    I’ll keep that in mind. The issue is that I do not listen to music — music is not a form of enjoyment for me. But I see other people saying they enjoy music and that makes me very curious to know what it feels like to enjoy music! Different people enjoy different music; so it might just be that I have not found the type of music that would result in enjoyment for me!

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    PS: not sure if this is applicable to you, but do not be in a hurry to start coding. Think through what you want to achieve first. (There are engineers who rush to start coding, and they do not produce good code.)

  • heaven here i come

    Hs4Mm suggested making the recent posts box HUGE. I notice that you have quite large margins outside the frame. Can they be shrunk and the size of the boxes inside the frame correspondingly enlarged? Also, people usually read from left to right, so maybe putting the recent posts box at the top left above the latest lesson picture would make it easier for newcomers.

    Hope this helps, O beauty…

  • neuroway

    It feels exactly like enjoying something you like, no matter the hardware it goes through to make its way inside of you (eyes, ears, nose, mouth, or a simple adrenalin rush coming from nowhere, out of the blue). Music is no different than anything else a sensitive organism can appreciate. One day, you’ll find the exact frequency you need to make your senses vibrate with enjoyment. Unless you have some real problems with your eustachian tubes and you are some kind of stupid barking dog, totally unsensitive to music, or a monkey in front of the Mona Lisa.

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    Oh! I’m in a time warp. Forward to the past. :lol:

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    Hs4Mm’s comment above may be only his 2 cents, but it’s worth $10,000.

  • darlingj

    Hi. When you say ‘find new posts’ I assume you mean when you comment rather than posting a Lesson or putting up a new page?

    If so – isn’t there a way to have 2 ‘Recent Comments’ boxes – the current one that shows everybody – and another one next to it that shows ‘Marina’s recent comments’? Doesn’t seem it should be that difficult unless there is no widget that allows a search for just you…

    I also liked the stuff you mentioned from the other design – fonts – comments easy to read – had a ‘cleaner’ look…

    Liked the top feature box too – drew attn to what you want people to see.

    Also liked the left/right scroll on recent lessons box – beats just showing 1 latest and the list of last 5 as now.

    If there is one new thing I’d suggest it would be this:

    For a newbe coming to the site, I think a box of a ‘Top Ten’ lessons or something to ‘get to know you’ – feature your best and most popular work – would be really helpful. They can get ‘hooked’ by seeing your best work first – and then explore the rest of the site.

    I’ll emphasize this because you are expending a HUGE amount of effort to get a new person to check you out with all the Press, PR, and Book Promotion — and when they take the time to actually do so you want to make it EASY to see you at your best – and keep them coming back. All the rest follows from that – sponsors, ad revenue, other opportunities, etc.

    I’d put this MOST PROMINENT on the Home Page and on the side at the top.

    Then the recent lessons, recent comments, and so on. Those of us who come here regularly can see all the detail we crave down the side column, which can go as deep as you want it to.

    I think that’s more than 2 cents – keep the change… ;-) :grin:

    FOOTNOTE: I see that while I was writing this HS4 was saying much the same thing! I’ll add this 2 cents to his to make 4!

  • darlingj

    I see as I was writing this — HS4 was making many of the same points and beat me to the post! :oops:

    Well let’s add his and my 2 cents together and we’ll almost have a nickle! :mrgreen:

  • http://calling-muggins.blogspot.com/ muggins

    When you find out about bippy, could you tell me where diddy wa diddy is?

  • darlingj

    Now THIS looks pretty cool…like the fonts and colors…

  • darlingj

    Hang on Bob!

    It’s Back to the Future IV – and Marina’s driving the DeLorean. ;-)

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    this is the official video. its good but the one with apes is just surreal. i discovered the bastard fairies when they did this cover of this song by the asylum street spankers. the asylum street spankers… what can i say? their like hee haw on an acid trip.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    this is the official video. its good but the one with apes is just surreal. i discovered the bastard fairies when they did this cover of this song by the asylum street spankers. the asylum street spankers… what can i say? their like hee haw on an acid trip.

  • originalistrick

    Clean, ain’t it?

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    Blondie changing tiresYou think the tire might be a little low?

    Marina?…Bulgarian girl changing tire
    …change is good :lol:

    hows Jody? :smile:

  • originalistrick

    We’ll be patent, Marina.

  • darlingj

    I’m good Leonard – I notice you STILL aren’t following me with the new Twitter account – you know I can’t send you any secret DM’s that way! ;-) :razz:

  • Greatest Potential

    :grin: super. this is cool. me likey.

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    The home page has got to add the divisions and your beautiful and lovely charm will introduce the latest…

    I think there is a word for saying something with big words meaning something with little words :lol:

    [L*o*g-istics]..logistics will breakthrogh the logjam and the river is making the wood move…[contest]…Vivian Blaine and the Goldwyn Girls dressed as pussy cats are anything but catlike as they romp about in high heels and tights, singing and dancing and showing off their lovely legs in the 1955 film Guys and Dolls.
    I ate a whole bag of greasy chips and I am feeling like puke{sorry for my lingo}

  • Greatest Potential

    :razz: Since I get a nickle per posted message here I’m not complaining. That’s three cents more than YT gives out. Well, two cents per comment and a nickle per negative comment I receive over on YT comments. There’s less hardship here though.

  • neuroway

    The shonkey on the lead bicycle looks like dr Zira.

  • Damiana

    bastard fairies vid: shades of this by ugly casanova Oo loving the dissonance of bastard fairies we’re all going to hell.

    nice theme, btw. couldn’t explore links at work earlier.. :/

    note: bastard fairies and ugly casanova are both links though they’re not blue..

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword

    cool, i have a strange fascination with obscure vintage film. those strange educational films and public service pieces can be so bizarre.

  • Damiana

    loving the agonoize.. continuing the theme.. cowboys from hell.

    note: cowboys from hell is a link though it’s not blue..

  • Damiana

    lol! yeah, so creepy they’re cool. Oo

    amazed by the similarities of the bastard fairies vid and the ugly casanova vid.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    You’ll be “patent?” :-)

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword
  • originalistrick

    Hs4Mm,

    Please, please don’t misinterpret what I’m about to say, because I mean no offense at all. I’m absolutely flabbergasted that you say you don’t listen to music; that it’s not a form of enjoyment for you. I just can’t begin to comprehend that. Of course, most folks can’t see how I never had a computer until about a year ago, either. Sure is interesting how we’re all the same, yet so different all at the same time.

  • darlingj

    Hey Rick! How’s things in the Lone Star State?

    I’ve run through a lot of ‘clean as’ analogies in my mind – and none of them seem to fit the stately decorum of the NEW site. ;-)

    So I’ll go with:

    ‘As a whistle…’ :lol:

  • Damiana
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRtq2-gziI buzzword
  • originalistrick

    Yeah, Sweetie, I’m just playing with you.

    Read your “update” above. I’m just fooling

    widja.

  • originalistrick

    Missed you, Amigo!

    God is truly in His Heaven in The Republic – Hunting season has begun here. Just returned from a whitewing hunt down near Mexico that was disgustingly fun. Ate a lot, drank too much, and can barely lift my arm, my shoulder is so bruised from all the shooting.

  • Damiana

    twisted is relative.. ~smirk~

  • originalistrick

    And “stately decorum” – I love it! You’re too much, man.

  • darlingj

    He meant patently patient.

    Must have been a glitch generated by all these changes you’ve been making! :razz: ;-)

    As in ‘unmistakably’:

    1 : bearing pains or trials calmly or without complaint

    :lol:

  • neuroway

    @buzz,

    What about viewing preferences, eh? look @that! Don’t you remember these? Aren’t they a colourful and spicy version of the Mona Lisa indeed? Aren’t they smiling @you with all the finesse and elegance of bluey, goldy and whity shades and subtle nuances? Let it be known, as a matter of fact, @buzz, that listening preferences are not everything! There is viewing preferences too!!!

  • darlingj

    Did you bring back the Game to satisfy the Mrs – or are the arm punches adding to the bruising? ;-)

    Ice fishin’ was the guy’s getaway where I grew up.

  • originalistrick

    You told us to be “patent”.

  • darlingj

    He got you! :lol:

  • originalistrick

    We gave all the birds away to locals. I love to eat them, but they NEEDED them. Right thing to do.

  • darlingj

    Cool!

  • originalistrick

    I’m admittedly anal about details. Heck, I type so slowly it’s hard to make many mistakes.

  • darlingj

    Are you saying there’s a downside to being as reckless as I’ve been most of my life? :shock:

    Hmmm…

    That was good to catch that Rick – and clever post too!

    Now having put myself in harm’s way from thousands by funnin’ on a typo of our host (notice it’s fixed now) – I think I’ll retreat to my spelling and typing studies so as not to be publicly humiliated myself in the future… :???: ;-)

    BTW – Ever eat Habanero’s – put some tonite on a Pizza – love ‘em…

  • originalistrick

    Oh, I’m dead meat now. I made her mad with a stupid, untimely remark last night, and now I make a lame attempt at teasing her a little. Think I’ll hang it up for the night before our beautiful instructor gives me the boot. Enjoyed it, my friend.

  • originalistrick

    Oh, yeah…peppers. I eat any and all. If I ate ice cream I’d chop jalapenos up in it.

  • Rijk

    Hi Leonard,

    Dutch masters? You live in a museum ? :mrgreen:

  • originalistrick

    ‘Night, Marina. Seriously, thanks for all this. I think you’re amazing.

  • Rijk

    Thank you,

    Everything seems to work again, your even wearing that pink dress, only the links are black as well, other than that your done.

    Keep your hands off of that keyboard! Pet Gorby and let him do the site :mrgreen:

    Didn’t I mention a Brainstorm session and having a concept ? :idea:

  • Rijk

    Yes, it was chaos, but the old girl is back :smile:

    Lets say M was over-ambitious

  • darlingj

    Well Yeah…I’m sure you really pissed her off – let’s hope she gets over it before both you and I are toast!

    Talk to ya soon! Take care.

  • darlingj

    Kiss Ass. :roll:

  • darlingj

    The Teal reply box is cool too – adds some style vs the black.

    Rick might call me a Kiss Ass for this – but I think you’re amazing too.

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    I am working to get the comments to the “cleaness” of that other design.. working my way there! :-) Any weird stuff that you see is because I am working on the site while it’s live!

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    I think a reply I made just now got eaten! Here’s what I wrote as a reply to your comment 34 (left margin number 9):

    The following are three distinct things:

    1) What you want to communicate.

    2) How do you want to communicate 1 — what graphics, colors, fonts, placement etc.

    3) How to code to achieve 2.

    It is mistake to dilly-dally in steps 1 and 2 and never get to 3; and it is also a mistake to rush headlong into 3 with no thought to 1 or 2. It could be OK to iterate between the three steps; but at some point, one must have a clear, explicitly verbalized statement of 1. It is 1 that acts as a standard by which to judge how effective 2 and 3 are.

    The present discussion has been about web-site design. The principles mentioned in this context have a wider applicability; and seeing how the same principle shows up in different contexts helps with grasping the principle; so here’s how these principles show up in my pursuit of a YouTube Channel: the key issue in my pursuit is that I need to learn to use the medium — consisting of video (camera footage, animation, effects), audio (music, sound effects, speech) and text with effects — to communicate my message (my message being: “Fundamental tidbits for getting the most from this world by the use of one’s intellect.”) Until I solve this key issue, there isn’t much going for my channel.

    (I think you already know this: by examining the files home.php and index.php of revolution and of magnet, it is possible to have magnet’s top row of boxes in revolution too.)

  • http://www.GoForThisWorld.com Hs4Mm

    Vladimir actually has a plugin that allows one to work on a theme while a different theme is shown to the public — but I do NOT think that would be a good idea for the present situation. I suspect you find a value in the live feedback; and I don’t think any visitor here minds the minor issues that accompany the upgrade.

  • darlingj

    Nothing is weird – you’re doing great!

    Just kidding around in the classroom.

    Remember that we all adore you or we wouldn’t be here!

  • darlingj

    The bigger Gravs and scrunched comments look too Kindergarten tho – don’t you think?

    OK for the kids – but you are a published Author now!

  • darlingj

    Uh Ohh – I’m upside down again….feeling dizzy…

  • darlingj

    Now all we 5th column commenters are smashed to the bottom – it’s a good thing I trust you Marina…

    What’s our ‘safe word’ again in case this gets to hairy? ;-)

  • darlingj

    I hope History will show you guys that I’ve been takin’ one for the team here in the wee hours.

    She is merciless with the code changes…

    …and other things too.

    This may all look normal to you tomorrow – but believe me – it ain’t no cake walk…

    Ahhhh!

    Gotta Go….no emoticons…

  • Greatest Potential

    darlingj

    checking it out periodically, site work.

    take care

  • darlingj

    Good One GP!

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    How Aptova!

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    Marina, could you please make the colour of the click-able links brighter. They don’t stand out from the rest of the text.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx

    here’s an obscure movie. it’s not educational or anything. in my opinion, one of the worst movies ever made.
    i watched it because it’s got sasha grey in it. i was curious how putting a porn actress in a non-adult movie would work out. she also starrs in a movie directed by steven soderbergh which i haven’t seen yet, “the girlfriend experience” which is a big hollywood production.
    there are of course (former) porn actresses who made it in “regular” movies and the music business, e.g. traci lords who has a rather unique story.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com äläx

    here’s dj hell at the loveparade 2008. it’s a bit longer, though.

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard
  • Damiana

    @rijk
    lol. i was referring to chaos as a normal state of the universe. : ) of course it’s chaos when re-designing a site..

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    Sorry everyone.. I was up until 2:30am trying to work on the design.. and I have hit a snag that I can’t figure out how to fix. The comments box won’t push away the other comments and the search bar is messed up! Arrggh!

  • James

    IF YOU STOP MESSING AROUND WITH IT MARINA AT THE SAME TIME AS I AM ( as that has happened every time i have tried to help :) ) maybe I can look into it! lol

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    OK.. I will stop! Sorry

  • James

    Jeez!.. :)

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    I fixed it James. Added a div lear both thingy

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/bsomebody13 bsomebody

    Things seem to coming along smartly. The time thingies are still kinda skewed, but I can at least find my way from page to page, now. This is gonna be pretty cool after all the work is finished (is it ever really finished?)

  • James

    TEST

    test
    test

    test

    TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    cat

  • Rijk

    @Damiana

    O, ooops, universe as in the world, or even bigger?
    Venomrock67 and I exchanged thoughts. But its a lot of reading and with the new layout it even seems more.

    The site:
    Its not really a redesigning, its more a different layout. Asked about the concept for the new site, but no answer.
    Concept could have been school, book, newspaper. Or a phrase. Concepts guide you in every design decision that has to be made.

    For instance newspaper has a certain look and feel to it, even the way a new page would role in your screen.
    So to me its not a design, its an idea.

    ( the link is a test, so if it looks horrible, sorry )

  • Rijk
  • Rijk

    is it just me, but to me it seems that not all replys end up as a tree structure. :shock: :sad:

    (previous comment was a reply and end at the bottom of the list, wonder where this one goes)

  • Rijk

    see where this ends up

    (reply not to the bottom comment)

  • Rijk

    WTF, every reply ends up at the very bottom, and a new comment at the top.

    Can’t maek head nor tail out of the comments / replys anymore :(

  • http://twitter.com/HotforThai Bob

    I haven’t felt this sick since I was learning aerobatics. :D

  • Rijk

    Geronimo…….

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/capman911 Capman911

    test 123

  • thematrix75

    Hello Marina it will be alot of work to redesign this website.Hopefully all the hard work will pay off.From what I can tell so far it seems to be coming out gold!I have faith in you Marina to make all the proper moves and redesigns to make this website to be just awesome!Thank you for your time!Until next time…

  • originalistrick

    Just showin’ some love, right?

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    How will those workers change the tire? Looks like six nuts for the [rim], 12 spokes around the axel and some babes in high-heeled shoes talking and a lady on her back… :lol: 12 bolts too, :-)

    Rijk: blockquote is how grey does this… :P

    …no wipers and chains on tire means [mud], smud ;-)

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    I miss random already…

  • darlingj

    Absolutely! Hope you know I was kiddin’ with you below – should have used smiley’s or something…Great bantering with you the other night!

  • originalistrick

    Same here. So good to be back!

  • Greatest Potential

    Funny how the site design clicked into place in just a matter of days. Now I go to the HFW homepage and it looks quite nice to me.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/capman911 Capman911

    ⇐ ⇑ ⇒ ⇓ ⇔ ∀ #8706;

  • Rijk

    TryingareallylongopeningIcouldswearitwassomewheredownhereIsawthefirstlineoftextgoingintothebluearea

  • Rijk

    The neuro-gasm ad is gone, and it had the most gordious picture of you in it, did you have words with them, or was it a casualty of the site overhaul ?

    Take it easy Marina you are not well jet :-(

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    What neuro-gasm ad?

  • Rijk

    Well on the top left (where the text-bar used to obstruct the ad) of the homepage there is the ad for your book / neuro Bliss and Neuro Sonic, and there used to be one with neuro gasm as well. And that one is gone.

    You added the name of the topic in recent comments, thats much better.
    I keep wanting to click on the forum word in the right, could you fix that?

    A patient should be patient.
    Wordrequest: [patient as in waiting patiently and as in someone ill]

  • http://www.hotforwords.com HotForWords

    My website is getting blocked in filters for some reason.. so I am changing things around to find out why.

  • Rijk

    Hhmmm, isn’t it strange it shows up one ad, but not the other. Both firefox and internet explorer don’t show this ad. Even with all blocking switched off and all cookies excepted.

    Funny thing is, the google ads react on the word of the video you do. : )

    Did a photoshop of the menu area, before you changed it, of the changes in there I think the black line is an improvement to the site. (linking to my post produced an error so I leave it at that for now)

    You lost the harper ad, etc, but the links are still there.

    The Twitterbox is showing the comments in the wrong order / way.

  • Rijk

    sorry one of these to much
    this is bulletproof:

    http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1429/hfwsitehead.jpg

  • http://captainjack.ws Captain Jack

    GOOD! sound like a plan.. :-)

  • http://vkontakte.ru/id25408688 leonard

    W*O*W…
















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