View Counts on YouTube

My feet are wet, not from sweat, but from the veiws of you tube….peace forWords

hmmm. let me read and find out.

so 308 is the magic number then, hmmm…

how is this possible??
323 views and 869 ratings???

of course the commentor who dares to question gets marked down or perhaps it was the misuse of the perverted 69.

THE TAKE OVER :lol:

Checking in, What the haps?

Oh it’s gaming your views, ppl are such cheats cuz they got no talent.

well, at least it generates more comments. that’s good for you, right(?)

Since I make 5 cents a comment, totally!! :-) That’s another story, by the way!

Know now why bread, to eat takes more working hours to earn the [dough]…entertainment cheapens the real value :twisted: of money.

(Google’s Class A common stock are listed on The NASDAQ National Market under the symbol GOOG. Their Class B stock is not publicly traded. It is used as an IOU to buy other companies that Google can’t really afford, but doesn’t want other people to have, like YouTube Inc for example.)

…[Oshkosh] :lol:

:lol: [misnomer]

[nickel]…Melanie – The Nickel Song…I dare you research this song and the nickel gamble. God bless Marina :smile:

This soup it good, for, Genna

So “embedded” means if you post/embed the video to another web page, that video starts when I open the page and DOESN’T wait for me to push play? Like how it auto-plays on your YT page?

I’m going to start make extremely long comments on your YT videos…only its going to be at the rate of one word per comment! :mrgreen:
The only catch is you have to twitpic which pair of Christian Louboutins I was responsible for. :lol:

308 can’t be magic!

It’s not a multiple of The Ultimate Answer!

No, you can embed a video to auto play

Oh Hell yea sounds like a plan better yet everyone should rag on all the haters when they say such terrible things :lol:

 
No, there is no magic number that I know of.
I have a YT test channel where the views have
been stuck at 344 and those views went from
1 to 344 in real time.

I see other YT channels have theor counts
frozen at other numbers as well.

 
Marina, you did an excellent job as always in reporting technical information that is very informative and very well written. What you say is accurate.

I would like to add some additional information right from YouTube’s Blog/Help pages.

An Update On Our View Counts
March 13, 2009 Posted by: Michelle Schlachta
 
Video view counts reflect the YouTube community’s interests and the grassroots popularity of videos. We periodically make changes that allow us to display consistent view counts and accurately reflect a “real” view based on video consumption, video streaming and spam filtering.
 
Unfortunately, a few people still try to artificially manipulate their video’s view counts. Some people game third-party view counts as well. That can make things unfair for everyone.
 
Recently, we found spamming issues associated with the view counts on a small number of videos. The inflated view count number on these videos will be frozen until actual views catch up to the published, artificial, view count. Also, a few people have commented that their view counts are updating more slowly.
 
Occasionally the speed with which views update changes — sometimes it’s faster and sometimes it’s slower. But we are always working to make sure that the final view count numbers are an accurate reflection of the community’s interest.
 
Michelle Schlachta
Community Manager, The YouTube Team
 

 
 
YouTube views issues go back as far as 2006 and maybe even earlier. There are a lot of blogs that talk this topic and the problem is that YouTube is not clear on a lot of issues, so there is a lot of speculation about what views mean and how they are tabulated. In other words, what is the definition of a view.

Marina wrote an excellent article on Views and Honors back in Oct 15, 2008.

Thank you for clearing this up. My question is why can’t the people at Youtube do what you just did?

Ok I guess they did. Tnks for answering that question before I posted my question. Boy your fast!!!!! :mrgreen:

Part of the problem about YT not being clear on how views are tabulated is in turn they would revival the secret how the system works and open YT to gamers.
Something else I notice. People don’t like to read. They would rather watch a video explaining the system. YT needs to realize that many of their viewers don’t like to read. Hence why they are on YT in the first place.

Speaking of auto play. The issue I found with the play back skipping on some computers. Your videos default to HD, which requires a good video card that can play HD content. I tested this on two city library computers and found this skipping issue on their systems.

I also went to two coffee shops that had computers for customer use and had the same issue. I wonder how many people don’t know that you need to click on the big red HD button to turn off HD for improved playback? How many people just give up and go elsewhere when they encounter such an issue?

You’re kidding right? :roll:

Oh your so slick ieonard. :smile: You shouldn’t tell people about Class B stocks. It just makes everyone angry. heheh good job!

 
Regarding:
“Your videos default to HD”

Hello Captain Jack,
That is not a true statement. Marina could set the default via a query string in the URL, for example adding &fmt=22 which would play the video in HD mode, if you were to click on one of her links that she is in charge of. But, that is not the case. You are usually not clicking on links Marnia created. You are clicking either on other sites or YouTube links.

When you visit the HotForWords channel, lets say and you pick a video to play on the video page, that video quality will depend on your settings or the settings of those places that you have visited.

By default, without logging into your account, any HFW video plays at the lowest quality and one must click on the button to go to HD or HQ.

If you are logged into your account, or if you are using someone else’s account (ie coffee shop, library), then they are responsible for those settings.

Log into your YouTube account, click on Account, then look at the far left. See where it says “Playback Setup”?
That’s where you can change the defaults. That means those places have their radio buttons set to the third position. Tell them to set it to the first radio button.

The fact that a video skips is either a combination of poor networking (how many places still have 10K stuff on their premises mixed with 100k? Many idiots out there)

Most, PCs are not adjusted properly cause no one cares. :sad:

Even after the video has fully loaded it’s still skips. Also note when someone logs out of a library computers all the cookies and settings are deleted for security of the guests.

All I know is that the HD button is lit up red without logging in to YouTube prior to visiting HFW site.

What’s worse is even with the button off, the skipping decreases yet it’s still there. What is the minimum video card requirements for video playback of HD videos? Then I would like to address how many people/schools/libraries/cafes have or don’t have these cards in their computers?

I have a third question is how is this affecting everyone one else? I can’t be the only one experiencing this or am I? I didn’t get a response the last time I asked this question.

 
Hello Captain Jack,
One of the most popular video cards is the
Nvidia GeForce 7300 SE which comes in either 256 or 512 MB versions. I have that card with 512 MB.
Actually, it is a low end card and if I remember correctly it cost somewhere around $45 a few years back.

Also, you want to make sure that the video card matches the video bus that you have such as PCI Express or whatever, not just PCI.

But, throwing a video card at any ole system may not solve the issue if the system is built like crap. Those public systems probably have all kinds of anitvirus crap installed like McAffe which sucks and will screw up video viewing. Those public systems also have other kinds of stuff running in the background which will mess stuff up.

Regarding the HD button being Red, meaning that HD is selected means that they did some tweaking of the Flash video decoder. People just throw things together without thinking.

You are correct, you are NOT the only one having those issues. I have donated my free time, free of charges to help thousands of people over the last few years get online with video for very little money.

The public institutions are in shambles for the most part and in fact, one of the richest counties in the US (old money) has the most F*cked up infrastructure of the whole US in roads and technology. It’s pathetic. I have traveled all over the US and Canada and it is a shame what goes on out there.

In fact, I just talked to the ATT tel man at the B-box down the street, and the stories we shared would make your stomach turn.

I hope I answered your question. :-)

You hit that aversion to reading point right on the head.

Hey Jack mine plays in regular mode when I watch Marina’s YT site. There is a section in your account that says Playback Setup and it lets you play back any video in regular or it lets you permanently set it to play in HD if your graphics card will let you. So maybe your YT site is set to the HD settings without you knowing it. Here is a picture of what the Playback Setup looks like. http://i28.tinypic.com/2lw39c1.jpg

So what your are saying is that I should go out and buy new video cards for libraries/coffee shops/schools/etc so they can enjoy HD? Im not that rich! Besides most inexpensive computers have built in video on the mother boards. Not an easy fix.

So if the machines are miss configured I need to visit all these locations and re-configure them?

Yes it true people just throw things together so they can just collect their paycheck and go to the bar and get drunk. That’s the problem with many managers are getting lazy in quality control of there products and services. I have an old electric shaver that survived a war. My new one was twice the price and is very high tech. The damn thing cuts like crap. It much slower at cutting. The plastic parts break. Shall I go on? People just don’t care anymore about their work. Just look at the US auto industry for example. GM, the worlds largest (formerly) couldn’t give us the best cars and trucks.

Yes I totally agree with you about the public institutions are in shambles. What’s even worse is these libraries I visited are nearly BRAND NEW. The paint is still drying.
The problem I see with YouTube going to HD is that they fail to address these issues about lower level machines. They could do a better job of implementing HQ and HD content on other machines.

I see a larger issue is that how many people are not enjoying Youtube as they could be if YT would better manage the different video systems. Also does this affect YouTube Views?

I’m well aware about video cards. I had just bought a new card to replace GF 7300 on a box I was going to buy. The guy took my money and ran. That’s the last time I’ll use ebay!

Hi Mike! Thanks for you help on that past issue btw. It really help smooth out the rough edges.

Im not talking about any setting on the YT pages. Im talking about default setting for Joe Blow that visits HFW site for the first time without having a YT account. I’m also talking about public accessed computer were the systems admin does not allow adjusting any controls on there computers. Default setting are critical to best be compatible for lower powered computer systems that are commonly found.

What’s the story? Is it that spreading the rumor that the channel gets 5c/comment will make the nuts stop commenting?

I have the same problem with the video skipping or not syncing with the audio. It is worse in HD. Strangely I do not have this problem with other YouTube video’s. Also while I’m at it the audio could be louder. Other than that these lessons are the highlight of my day.

Well, I didn’t know that you got paid for the comments! I think I will have to comment at YT more often too now.

Errol, thank you for your response. I was sure I was not the only one with this problem.

I find the audio just fine on my machine. I use the speaker in my monitor. I have a better set of amplified speakers in my storage unit.

You make 5 cents a comment?
That’s a rip off, because I get 10 cents for making one! :-)

In our web site, we used a lightbox embedding system to display the video. The user have to click an image to launch the video. We set auto play on as user had already clicked once to watch the video.
It appears that youtube didn’t count views coming from thoose auto play embedded videos.

In fact, I not sure but there’s no view counts coming from our website when we check video stats. I hope that’s the pblm. We’ve removed auto play, we’ll see. We missed around 40k and 50k views (we have this stat from analytics).

I hope this information can help.

http://www.ohmstudio.com

Hello der magnum,
You are correct about YT not counting views when an embedded video is in auto play. The above article is a year old next month and since then, YT has made many more changes about what constitutes a video view count. Of course YT does not advertise what the rules are, but many times one can get an idea of what is happening when one reads the questions that users pose on the YT Help forum. There are many video views that are not counted due to YT’s technical issues.

I’m curious about why you are launching your video in a shadow box? Since you have turned off auto play, the user now has to click twice to see the video.

I confirm that removing autoplay fixed the issue.

The shadow box (which is technically called light box!) was convenient to control the page’s look. We were able to put the picture we wanted when you have low control through YT (3 pictures coming from your video). Moreover, the rest of the page is dark while you watch video. That technic is common for pictures.

nice article for you……..
http://www.hotforwords.com/2009/03/22/hiccup/#comment-180901

nice article
Poptropica

I know I am stepping into this half way, but this is the only link I have found that may be able to help answer my question. If I use a cloaking service to cloak my youtube video link (Viral URL), will my unique video page still get accurate views or will the views be blocked? Thanks in advance for any feedback you can offer!

I think this is no more a problem!

I’m pretty sure by, “shut him down for terms of use violations,” you meant, “made him a partner and now pays him money for doing pretty much the same thing.

If you play the video on mute, could it be considered a fake view? Or what if you jump around a through the video? Is that added to the view counter?

She is a partner, of course she would say that it’s nothing. View fraud is common place amongst the very popular partners.

The reason why the count blocks, and obviously few people know why, is censoring prevention. 

Some engineers (analytical field) studied how a video view count was evolving until it get frozed, and more importantly how it continued AFTER.

First of all, not ALL video get blocked when reaching 300 somethings views, they get freezed according to the rate at which it gets view when its posted (is it fast or slow, how many potential views can it get) and according to the tags and words accompanying the video.

Then there are three cases: 
- When the video is “good” or inoffensive (cute cat video or Lady Gaga), the count starts again eventually but the rate by which the views evolved is UNNATURAL : there are way more views than possible even if the video became popular
- When the video is connoted ”bad” ie. talks politics, critics youtube or else, the same happenned except the video get way less views than it should logically do
- When the video is fraudulent because of copyrights infringement or is violent the approximate time it takes for the view counts to be unfrozen is the time the video gets REMOVED.
*Again if you video is infringing but has a slow evolutions in the view counts it won’t get freezed or removed, and “pass through”

So what it means? That when Youtube detects a new video with a potential success it suspend the view counts. Officially it is to combat spam, BUT even in this case it means that they are CONTROLLING the videos, sometimes censoring it, but also adding algorithms to multiply or divide the number of views your video gets.

I hope my friends will released their study on Internet which most of them can’t because of their jobs, for now.

Hi, I’m having the same problem tracking views of some channels that made reviews of a game I made. For exemple, the counter shows 834, but the Statistics display a graphic going above 2k. Can I trust in the graphics then, that it marks the actual view count to be updated?

Thanks!

Hey, I’ve uploaded a video for an audition tape, and the view count should roughly show how many votes we’ll get for it. I’m just wondering whether watching a video from the same computer over and over again counts as multiple views?

I can not have easily count to download a Video and Music.
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