Pork Barrel

1st :cool: YA-HOO!!!!!

Homework :shock:
http://www.areddy.net/mscott/porkabs.html

[PIGGY BANK]

There is an echo in here here here here here……..

Congrats.!!!!

damn shot 30 minutes of video and tape got ate up! Brand new insides on my camcorder.

far out

Thanks Capt.! :grin:

Deeds and miracles attributed to Saint Nicholas…from wiki…”Another legend[citation needed] tells how a terrible famine struck the island and a malicious butcher lured three little children into his house, where he slaughtered and butchered them, placing their remains in a barrel to cure, planning to sell them off as ham. Saint Nicholas, visiting the region to care for the hungry, not only saw through the butcher’s horrific crime but also resurrected the three boys from the barrel by his prayers. Another version of this story, possibly formed around the eleventh century, claims that the butcher’s victims were instead three clerks who wished to stay the night. The man murdered them, and was advised by his wife to dispose of them by turning them into meat pies. The Saint saw through this and brought the men back to life.” A [new wave] of pigs in a deli… :razz:

…to benefit rich friends or politicians . hmmm
I just learned a new phrase , thanks :mrgreen:

Yah, I think it was Senator Mayer Oscar Wienerberger who pork-barreled alot. Hmmm?! :roll: :shock: :lol:

Home Work:
* $375,000,000 for an unrequested and unneeded amphibious assault ship in the state of Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.);

* $700,000 for the Admiral Theater in Bremerton, Washington, the district of House appropriator Norm Dicks (D-Wash.), despite a $4.2 million privately-funded facelift.

* $500,000 for the Olympic Tree Program in the state of Senate appropriator Robert Bennett for the 2002 Winter Olympics.

WHATS TAPE? What kind of tape goes with [pork bellies]…some say, eating poorly cured pork will eat your insides out…anything to do with snakes? :shock: Jack: bake in water, so the shots dam out…peace of cake and no pie crust with lard :lol: :roll: [COOPER]…Did you shoot with a double barrel? :?:

homework : campaign contributions ?

speaking of politics , i’d like to request [banana republic]

Example of Pork Barrel Spending: (Source Collins & Aikman, http://www.areddy.net)
$107,000 to study the sex life of the Japanese quail.
$1.2 million to study the breeding habits of the woodchuck.
$150,000 to study the Hatfield-McCoy feud.
$84,000 to find out why people fall in love.
$1 million to study why people don’t ride bikes to work.
$19 million to examine gas emissions from cow flatulence.
$144,000 to see if pigeons follow human economic laws.
Funds to study the cause of rudeness on tennis courts and examine smiling patterns in bowling alleys.
$219,000 to teach college students how to watch television.
$2 million to construct an ancient Hawaiian canoe.
$20 million for a demonstration project to build wooden bridges.
$160,000 to study if you can hex an opponent by drawing an X on his chest.
$800,000 for a restroom on Mt. McKinley.
$100,000 to study how to avoid falling spacecraft.
$16,000 to study the operation of the komungo, a Korean stringed instrument.
$1 million to preserve a sewer in Trenton, NJ, as a historic monument.
$6,000 for a document on Worcestershire sauce.
$10,000 to study the effect of naval communications on a bull’s potency.
$100,000 to research soybean-based ink.
$1 million for a Seafood Consumer Center.
$57,000 spent by the Executive Branch for gold-embossed playing cards on Air Force Two.

pickeled Hhammm…catfish…or buying dry milk to make cheese…crazy AMERICANS of policy and the government to tax its poor civilities…conscience of the overweighted :twisted: :arrow: :evil: Classed PoliceyMastered and educated against nature :eek:

Any public monies going to Octo-Mom or her Dr’s or clinic she went to.

All this… while lots of the world doesn’t have fresh drinking water. :sad:

cufan71: Check this out,Making a wine barrel at C Gillet Cooperage I’ll be a barrel of fun… :lol:

Storing salted pork in a barrels, casks, kegs, etc., was a very common practice on tall ships. They go hand in hand. I don’t think there was ever a tall ship that set to sea without a pork barrel.
I did a quick google and found a copy of an old (scanned) article dating back in 1887 that describes a bit about this practice.”What sailors eat.” http://bit.ly/AKgZ2 I would suspect the practice existed much earlier. Maybe someone could investigate.

Oh I forgot to mention pork barrels have much in common with slush funds. Remember that lesson? Funny I’m a bit surprised Marina didn’t link these two lessons together some how.

Milwaukee’s pork…Liberace Playing Beer Barrel Polka and Beer Barrel Polka-The Andrews Sisters lyrics are relavent…Hail to the *****LEXICON REPUBLIC*****hotforwords rules***** :lol:

Jack was the pork barrels on the ships filled with the same salted pork as fat back is today, that we season food with?

No wonder my dam cable bill is so high. :lol:

The short answer is YES! I can’t believe this is so much attention on this story. A mentally Ill mother and stupid doctor (or is it a very sane/smart mother and forward thinking doctor looking to make $$$?). I’m reading between the lines and I see this was just a money making scheme at the cost of human life. What is the world coming to?

That was :cool: :!:

Yes. Any salt will work. You just need to create a brine. There are many kinds of salt. My favorite is sea salt from France. Not that Morton crap.
What salt does with the meat is it pulls the water out and the salt gets absorbed in. The salt does a good job of preserving (limiting the growth of bacteria, that wants to eat your dinner before you do) the meat for a period of time. There is an obvious problem with this method is you ingest a lot of salt, even after you soak the meat for hours to get the salt out.

I use video tape to store my videos on. Even with all this high technology today we don’t have a inexpensive, removable and reliable mass storage devices. You still can buy high end video equipment that uses video tapes. Flash drives are starting to become a bit more common but have a ways to go. I suspect in 2 years it will become a common form of video storage. The next High Def camcorder I get will have video tape storage. It’s the best solution for my needs.

You might be having a visitor from HFWs YT site. I set you up with http://www.youtube.com/user/Candice109. She wanted to meet a handsome young man, so guess what :lol: You got picked. :razz: :razz: :lol: :lol:

Can you please provide the url for your comment as my wife doesn’t believe me on some of these. :lol: :grin:

Dear совершенная Марина Орлова, your hair looks great, and with you in that black dress, I’d be glad to go to a formal, “black tie” event with you. You dressed casually in earlier videos, so it’s nice to see you in in a great-looking formal dress. :grin:
In past centuries, pork barrels were very much needed. Pork was salted to preseve it, and it was tightly packed in wooden barrels which were sealed to protect the product. The barrels could bring food to distant locations without contamination. :arrow:
The new $789 Billion “Economic Stimulus” Bill is packed with pork barrel spending, such as $1 Billion for new office buildings for NOAA, $100 Million for new offices for US Marshalls, $500 Million for NIH offices in Maryland, and more pork barrel spending will be known when copies of the Bill are available. :!:
Valentine’s Day will be here soon, so I watched the Valentine’s video you did last year. What a nice video! It was good because it was long (four and a half minutes) and you covered the subject so well and you added images, drawings, music and sound effects. In your video today, I think you are a happier person. :razz:
Seesixcm6

The end, I reckon.

Hello Marina,

I think a more pointed homework assignment would be to give examples of legislation that do not contain pork barrel spending.

Check out this web site about Octo Mom.

http://nailingjello.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/octo-mom-looking-for-2-million-teevee-deal/

There are few ( if any ) examples of legislation that does NOT contain Pork Barrel spending. The current stimulus package must be read carefully ( by the politicians ) to ensure THEIR Pork hasn’t been cut before they vote for it. The stimulus package itself is a classic example of pork all by itself. We ( through our Legislative Branch ) are about to give BILLIONS of dollars to the people who ran the system into the ground.

Congress is having hearings berating the CEOs and boards, but in the end they will give them the money.

Before I would consider approving a penny I would set as a minimum condition that the sitting boards of all stimulus money step down ( without bonuses and / or severance pay ) and let new people in. It is not a sure thing that the new folks can clean the mess up, but its a dead certainty that the old folks CAN’T.

“Slush” was the used cooking fat that was stored in barrels and sold to soapmakers when the ship came to a seaport. The “slush funds” were kept so the sailors could bribe the Customs officials. So there’s a perjorative to the term, “slush fund.” I didn’t know Marina did a lesson about it.

How nice.
That made me give my supper to the porcelain princess.

Dear HotForWords,

Happy 100th Video Anniversary! :!:

You look really great in that Black Dress :cool:

Homework: They can keep the pork to themselves! I don’t like pork. In fact, I’m considering a vegetarian diet (I was one from 5-13). :mrgreen:

Your Student,
ThoughtOnFire :oops:

Sure: http://www.areddy.net

Here are some others:
$3.1 million to convert a ferry boat into a crab restaurant in Baltimore.
$6.4 million for a Bavarian ski resort in Kellogg, Idaho.
$13 million to repair a privately owned dam in South Carolina.
$4.3 million for a privately owned museum in Johnstown, Pennsylvania.
$11 million for a private pleasure boat harbor in Cleveland.
$6 million to repair tracks owned by the Soo Railroad Line.
$320,000 to purchase President McKinley’s mother-in-law’s house. Funds to rehabilitate the South Carolina mansion of Charles Pickney, a Framer of the Constitution, even though the house was built after he died.
$2.7 million for a catfish farm in Arkansas.
$3 million for private parking garages in Chicago.
$500,000 to build a replica of the Great Pyramid of Egypt in Indiana.
$850,000 for a bicycle path in Macomb County, Michigan.
$10 million for an access ramp in a privately owned stadium in Milwaukee.
$1.8 million for an engineering study to convert Biscayne Boulevard in Miami into an “Exotic Garden.”
$13 million for an industrial theme park in Pennsylvania.
$500,000 for a museum to honor former Secretary of State Cordell Hull.
$33 million to pump sand onto the private beaches of Miami hotels.

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Now, don’t get testy with us, Dear Marina! :razz:

Hwk: Every federal bill signed into law has pork barrel spending attached to it–every single one! Obama, our lovely President, was one of the worst. In just three short years he added 1 billion dollars in “pork” to bills. Yeah, I voted for him but not with eyes closed as to what he has, or hasn’t, done. :???:

Pork barrel spending ja?

Hmmm… let me think… Michael Jackson let loose on Rodeo Drive with a bunch of credit cards!

The politicians song.

Roll out the Pork Barrell,
We’ll have a Gorby of fun.
Roll out the Pork Barrell,
We’ve got HotForWords Cinnabons……

Sing about the Pork Barrell,
We’ll build a bridge to nowwhere.
It’s all about the Pork Barrell,
Because we really do not care.

Everything on this list looks weird at first view for sure. But in my opinion, some of these expenses are justified.

I don’t think that money spent to teach students to watch TV is wasted. In my opinion, it’s important to teach people media literacy, which means to have a healthy skepticism towards what we see on TV or what we read on the internet. In many cases, the TV doesn’t tell you the whole story, may it be because of propaganda, because of bad journalism or because of lack of broadcasting time.

The $144,000 to see if pigeons follow human economic laws seem to me better spent than the millions to develop even more weird mathematical models for the economy that have never been verified in the real world, not even in the animal kingdom, before the current crisis broke out.

The politicians song.

Roll out the Pork Barrell,
We’ll have a Gorby of fun.
Roll out the Pork Barrell,
We’ve got HotForWords Cinnabons……

Sing about the Pork Barrell,
We’ll build a bridge to nowwhere.
It’s all about the Pork Barrell,
Because we really do not care.

The politicians song.

Roll out the Pork Barrell,
We’ll have a Gorby of fun.
Roll out the Pork Barrell,
We’ve got HotForWords Cinnabons……

Sing about the Pork Barrell,
We’ll build a bridge to nowwhere.
It’s all about the Pork Barrell,
Because we really do not care.

(Sorry if it’s a repeat, this thing is acting really weird)

You forgot Paris Hilton. :lol:

Marina is there any way of putting one of these 1 2 Next » at the top of the page also, so we don’t have to go all the way to the bottom to see what page we are on?

All this…while lots of the world doesn’t have two-ply toilet paper. :sad: :shock: :lol:

I’ve done some research on this thought and it appears that pork barrel spending works so very, very, well with “politics”… in America, as well as every country in the world… it must be a communicable disease. :razz:

Homework: Too many to get into…so, don’t get me started :mrgreen:

“No Kitty, this is my pork pie”
“That’s a bad kitty” – Eric Cartman :smile:

OK – here’s just one:
Governor Charlie Crist, of Florida, ran and was elected on a campaign promise to reduce the high cost of insurance for Floridians. He took money from the insurance companies to finance his campaign, and our insurance costs rose 150% as a result of his election success.
Crist is a true “let them eat cake” (SOB) politician.
Oh, then he got married, just to appear not to be gay, and tried to buy a candidacy as McCain’s veep running mate.

spellcheck: barrel :mrgreen:

The one being hurried through the House today packs even more wierdness than you have listed. Republicans wisely refuse to get behind it. Even some Democrats are smart enough to know that this will end their careers if they get behind it. Ted Kennedy has left Washington and isn’t even going to vote on it! Considering that his days are numbered, this should tell you something… :neutral:

Congrats Capt ….. someone just called you young!!!!

An honest public servant will not be made rich for his service.
Have you EVER seen a poor politician?
I only know of one honest Congressman in my life.
Charlie Luken, from Ohio, stepped down because of all the sneaky dealings he observed while on The Hill.
The shame is, he is the only one ever to do that.

DOH! I’ll stop, now… :mrgreen:

For better or worse, at least he is spending his own money.

:smile: Hi Marina,
There are old cartoons featured in newspapers and magazines from the past that satire these wasteful spendings. Such cartoons may show a big bellied aristocrat carrying a barrel full of cash, and sometimes it’s cash and chunks of smoked pork and other goodies that fall off the top of the full barrel as the aristocrat hauls the loot around, and since whatever falls off from the barrel isn’t going to be picked up it’s considered as “pork barrel”, waste or expenditure.

A vegetarian diet; is that where you only eat vegetarians?

Well, this is indeed a pertinent observation Orion. I guess he can cover his credit bills at the end of the month. Or perhaps he can’t?

:eek: Politician Arianna Huffington wrote that book “Pigs at the Trough” sort of a watchdog insider look on how corporate greed and political corruption undermine America.

We as citizens, need more representation than that of the lobbyist. Too many times in history, the institutional infrastructure of democracy governs like retarded over “paided intelligentsia”. Their pay is our pain. “Benifits of agencies” is and are not democratic![dictation] of school [Masters]. :sad: Hear is song to 1969 Liberace Show Boogie Woogie Onward *****HotForWords*****[boogie woogie] :razz: 16/to the bar

And, if he can’t, isn’t that at least partly the fault of the banks that are ( over ) extending credit to those they ( ought to know ) can’t afford to pay?

:grin: Madames are business savy so they’d know about these things. Who else insures their profession by keeping their little black books locked safely away in a safebox in some swiss bank?

icon three boys pickling ?

Yes, but isn’t it a little indecent, considering the average per capita income in the world? Do they really deserve what they earn? Is what they’re doing so valuable that they deserve so much recognition?

My dear teacher, I’ve been trying to see your new videos on your site, but I have been unable to watch them, however, they work best on youtube. just take notice ok

If you buy a 200HP motorbike, you ride it at 200MPH, crash it and you lose your two legs in an accident, is it the fault of the bike dealer? Will you blame it on the constructor or will you blame it on yourself? Are we responsible adults or irresponsible teenagers? Can a society trust its citizens? Can you take the full responsibility and the full blame for your own actions? For your own decisions? Or do you need leaders and babysitters to tell you what you should do and what you shouldn’t do all the time? How much you should spend, what you should eat, etc..? If you buy a gun and shoot yourself in the foot, will you blame the person who sold you the gun?

LOL. Tell her to take a number. Waiting list is getting long. One gal has been waiting for 6.. No wait 7 years now. Which reminds me I have to give her a call. Anyone know the country code for Greece?

I agree that the person asking for credit IS primarily responsible.

My point is that as an investor in the bank ( losing money because the bank is making bad loans ) I would like to see bad credit risks paying higher interest because of the higher potential for default. I invest money to make money; if I wanted to lose money I’d go to Vegas and have a much better time.

The boards and CEOs have a job description that ( theoretically ) includes looking out for shareholders’ interests. I would argue they aren’t doing such a hot job, and there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of an option to get them to re-evaluate their priorities.

I feel like an idiot because I’ve actually been paying my mortgage and credit card bills.

Test one, two, three…spending the tending till the ending,…Do men like spend more than the female reputation? ” No,” I say,” its sports barrel drunkeness.” You are the best Marina, have a nice day! :razz: monkeys in a barrel :oops:

And what about individual greed? Corporations are built with packs and layers of greedy, agressive and ambitious folks, bound together by the love of money.

HotForWords is one video away from that magical 400 number.
When will that magical 400th video appear?
Only Marina knows for sure. :grin:

I don’t think the words slush funds were used but I believe I remember the discussion about it. Maybe it’s a future lesson she is working on. Vaguely seeing the future sucks. You never know if your going to do it or you are doing it or you have done it. It’s just not very clear as it could be. uuuggghhh. I think there was a similar word. Bung hole maybe? grrrr. Come on brain! Get to work. OOps speaking of work my class starts in 30 minutes. I have to run…

Not everybody is willing to take a risk. To pop a wheelie. But the ones that do should pay the consequences and also get the rewards if any. When you’re on your own, that’s not too big of a problem. When people depend on you, it becomes another issue, as they become (perhaps unwillingly) risk takers too.

Marina, Pork may represent “fat” for rich people but it wasn’t “reserved” for “fat” people, it is usually a symptom of pork barrel spending. Usually the money allocated usually goes to rich people as these people are proven adapt at using money to stimulate economic growth in the local of their constituents, the people they supposedly represent. Its kind of a backhanded form of economic stimulus specific for the area they represent politically. Its not a perfect form of stimulus as the rich usually get richer (fatter) but these people are the people whom hire and pay the people to perform the activities these moneys were allocated to perform. Its not just money given to rich people as they have to show results for the pork their allocated. If you read some of these comments below their are many examples of pork barrel spending being pointed out especially some of maxpappys examples, although they sometimes sound ridiculous the people whom perform these activities are going to be feeding their family’s and paying their bills, thus stimulating their local economy’s. Usually these pork barrel spending provisions are targeted to areas of economic depression that are overlooked when only looking at the overall national economic picture.

Ask Bob I bet he could get it for you. :lol:

Exactly my point; they are taking unwarranted risks with my investment money. Some credit worthy individuals may legitimately come up short and default unavoidably; THAT is the risks I expect banks to make with my money. The interestfrom those that do not default covers the ones that do and still provide a profit. Less credit worthy individuals will likely have a higher default rate, and thus pay higher interest to cover the added defaults.

Being politically correct and giving everyone MY rate is costing me, the banks, and apparently, the economy too much. Making unsecured loans maked it easy and even attractive to walk away from the debts.

I think that is wrong.

I think giving these CEOs a second chance with my tax money as well as my investment money is darn near criminal.

Marina,

Where did the term [tea totaler] come from?

Thank you.

The genesis of the flesh of swine in a barrel :lol: Let the Cat out of the Bag Answer

THIS LITTLE PIG
This little pig went to market;
This little pig stayed at home;
This little pig had roast beef;
This little pig had none;
This little pig cried, “Wee, wee, wee!”
All the way home

TOM, TOM, THE PIPER’S SON
Tom, Tom, the piper’s son,
Stole a pig, and away he run,
The pig was eat,
And Tom was beat,
And Tom ran crying down the street :razz: :evil: :lol:

What you think is perfectly legitimate and valid. I can’t prove you right or wrong. But looks like the powers that be don’t share your opinion.

John,
Back in the old days, being fat was synonymous with being rich… that’s what I was pointing out. The term pork barrel spending, I believe, is meant to have a negative connotation.. not that some of the spending branded as “pork barrel” by opposition parties is not merited. And I agree with you, some of that spending DOES help everybody.. but then I think it wouldn’t be branded as pork barrel (except by the opposition party!).

What browser are you using? I use FireFox and don’t have a bit of problem. I used to use IE7 or 8 but it was to slow and uses to much memory. Do you have the latest Flash player installed? Or are you using a Mac? If you are using a Mac then Marina Can help you on that as she uses nothing but Macs and knows them inside and out. Captain Jack can help you too if you are using a Mac. Just ask around and members will be glad to help you with your problem.

There have been plenty of examples on pork barrel spending. Has anyone contacted their congressman and given them an opinion on this?

The Social Security was made to tap directly into your pay check. The depressions are caused artificially by money supply manipulation. While you pay outragous taxes. The Gov always spends more than it brings in. So they print more money to compinsate. Which means they steal your bottle of vodka take a couple swigs, and top off with water. On a daily these days. They only cover up the problems they caused last term. On the long and tragic road to serfdom. we call democracy. For your homework know of any other org.s that use SS in there name? :idea:

Regarding “some of that spending does help everybody”: Consuming/Spending does not create wealth; production does. Printing money does not create wealth — wealth is actual goods and services created by individuals. The government does not produce anything — it taxes people and prints fake money. There is only destruction when the government takes money from some people and/or prints money and hands it over to others. To create wealth, people need to be left free to think, to judge, and to act — if they fail, they need to pay for their mistakes (not bailed out, not excused by filing bankruptcy etc.); if they win, they need to keep all that which they have earned.

Not me pal… But I volunteer to call Stormy for duty!

Hi Marina, From the comments I think you have opened a [Can Of Worms]. Now just how did that expression get started? Please tell us.

The bail outs the government did for some companies.
Wow may I say it is so good to see you again Marina :grin:
I had to go almost two weeks without you, because my old computer crashed. My Dad bought me a new one for my birthday :grin: . Again it is great to be back.

“Being fat was synonymous with being rich” I am not disagreeing with you; you do realize this don’t you? Yes “Pork barrel” is suppose to have negative connotation especially if their the opposing political party. It’s Unfortunate one’s political party’s pork may well be the economic depression of the opposition party’s political constitutes.
Some times though these pork spending’s ARE just Pet Projects for one congress persons political cronies. Still that’s a reality of almost all forms of politics. The winners get rewarded and the losers get penalized, or at least not as well rewarded. Usually however though this spending does have a direct economic benefit somewhere just not where it can be seen by everyone; especially if it’s not in that persons immediate local.

Your question here “Was there really a barrel full of pork?” yes,(see CaptJack’s comments) except in the great depression the government use to ship salt pork by the boxcar loads to areas; hardest hit, when the people didn’t have money to feed themselves, according to a man I knew whom grew up in that time.

hs4mm said

“if they fail, they need to pay for their mistakes (not bailed out, not excused by filing bankruptcy etc.); if they win, they need to keep all that which they have earned”.

Well Henry Ford went bankrupt about 4 times before becoming a successful automobile manufacturer.

While trying to manufacture automobiles i might add.

Is It Only In America that you should pay for your mistakes? What are your thoughts on this question, please exsplain.

Consider:

1) There are people who thought long and hard before taking any loans, then took loans that they afford, and are now working and saving diligently to pay off their loans. But there are also some people who took loans capriciously and purchased homes they could not properly afford; soon, these people defaulted on their loans. Such people need to pay for their mistakes. The government should not tax other people to help pay for the mistakes of those who lived beyond their means. The bankers who made loans without properly examining the ability of the borrowers to pay back should pay too — the government should not print fake money and/or tax others so that these incompetent bankers can continue with their jobs.

2) When Ford failed, did the government bail him out? I don’t think so. Anyway, if he was bailed out, that was a bad thing. The fact that after four bail-outs he created a successful factory (I believe his key invention was the assembly line for mass production) would not justify any prior bail-outs.

3) The key point is that the government does not own the money it uses in bail-outs. The government is not a producer — it does not create wealth — the government is properly a penniless thing. Any money the government gives out – it either stole from a producer by taxation or it created falsely by printing.

continued in 32.1.1.1.2 (if I gues the numbering scheme correctly)….

Every Investment firm I’ve ever visited has a statement which roughly states that investing is a risk. Have You been risking your money to make you money? key word “risk”

continuing from in 32.1.1.1.1

4) Regarding “Is It Only In America that you should pay for your mistakes?” It is reality, not society, that requires one to pay for ones mistakes — if someone thinks a stone is cake and eats it, he will fall sick; if someone thinks flapping his arms gives him wings and jumps out of a tall building, he will fall and die; if someone studies nature and figures out how to deal with it, he can build a plane; if someone wants to communicate with someone else far away, he can shout till his is hoarse and fail — or he can study nature and eventually invent wireless transmission of sound. And it is false ideas in society that enables one to get away with mistakes. If someone wants to smoke pot and destroy himself — that should be his right; but false ideas in society try to prevent such foolishness by making certain drugs illegal.

–Hs4Mm

Happy Birthday! :grin:
…and welcome back!

Yeah, right – and get a “personal” response
form letter from a Congressional aide, too?
That only works if you sent them money.
Then, they work for you(r money) :mrgreen:

Has anyone noticed as th price of crude oil is falling, pump prices continue to hover at the $2/gallon mark? The oil companies have conspired to keep it at that price by cutting output at the refineries, which usually operate at 95%, down to only 79%.
They are in bed with the politicians who don’t ever come to the aid of our citizens over this; they don’t even make a whimper because they sold us out.
Governor Crist got his big fat envelope full of money to “shutup”, and he did (sellout lil Biotch). :neutral:
It’s so stupid for them to think we can’t figure this out… :mrgreen:

“Consuming/Spending does not create wealth; production does” (create a million widgets that no one wants and see how much wealth you accumulate.)

2) When Ford failed, did the government bail him out? I don’t think so.( This process is called Bankruptcy) Anyway, if he was bailed out,( He Was) that was a bad thing.( I can’t see how it’s a bad thing) The fact that after four bail-outs he created a successful factory (I believe his key invention was the assembly line for mass production) ( it was a key but not the entirety of his success after all the other company’s had to adapt it also to compete) would not justify any prior bail-outs. ( The laws (bankruptcy laws) of America say his prior bail-outs were justified so you have a poor argument here)

Ask those people whom worked for Ford in the great depression if his bailouts were justified or not I think they were.

3) The key point is that the government does not own the money it uses in bail-outs. The government is not a producer — it does not create wealth — the government is properly a penniless thing. Any money the government gives out – it either stole from a producer by taxation or it created falsely by printing.

I am trying to see where a discussion of pork barrel spending has become a discussion of government bailout, two differing things, Besides its rightly called a econmic stimulus package.

Gas Prices are always higher in Florida. They like to milk the tourists. I paid 1.65 just north of Atlanta today. In the Sunshine state, you pay about 49.5 cents a gallon in taxes.
On average the oil companies survive on a 12% mark-up. So the government makes well more than twice the profit on a gallon than the oil companies do.

Everyone Makes mistakes so your in favor of some form of punishment, Right ?

Is indentured servitude legal?

Damn It was banned along with slavery by the

13th amendment to the Constitution.

Crysler appealed to congress in the early eighty’s i think for a government bailout( actually it was a loan) which was approved and they then went on to become competitive with GM and Ford again, paid off their bailout(Loan) Are the current bailouts going to be loans, I haven’t paid enough attention to know. Help me out here people.

No its barrell because their pork barrells and their larger than regular barrels. :grin:

As politicians gain seniority in Congress, they acquire the power to stuff bills with pork. That’s one reason why I’m for term limits. Now, most pork projects are awarded to corporations, who in turn donate to politician’s campaign funds. The press isn’t helping. They don’t spend a dime investigating this pork game between the corporations and Congress. And when a story falls into their laps, the press does a sound bite treatment, like the bridge to nowhere. Actually, it was a bridge to an airport, and also would have enabled that Alaskan city to grow beyond it’s over-crowded boundaries. But no-ooooo…it became an icon of pork, “the bridge to nowhere”, due to the press unwillingness to hire reporters to investigate. For example, why doesn’t the press tell us what Congressmen are get pork and what those projects cost the taxpayers?

The Wikipedia article about the automotive industry crisis” says that the bailouts for the automotive industry are loans.

Pork barrel spending refers to any unnecessary spending, even if it does not inure to the benefit of any particular person or group of persons. Sometimes it is done to make constituants believe “their man” is doing good for them in order to induce them to re-elect him. It’s stealing from Peter to bribe Paul.

With respect to body fat, it used to be that the rich were fat and the poor were thin, or at least it was understood that way, whether or not it was actually true. Now we know that, overall and ignoring other factors, it is the poor who are more likely to be obese, because they have a protein-poor, starchy diet. (Starches are much cheaper when directly consumed and more expensive when run through a cow.)

Nothing wrong with that; it’s what makes it all work. As long as the playing field is level and their actions are regulated, they will fall all over themselves trying to serve our needs in the most efficient manner. Unfortunately we fail in the leveling and regulating tasks and pay the price for it. Live and learn.

They’re. (This is an unending task, Cha Cha. Prepare to grow old.)

The bike must be labelled properly: “DO NOT RIDE TOO FAST.” :roll:

I noticed this morning on the cardboard sleeve that covers my small handsaw this warning: “Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles.” This is in 3/8″-high printing. But some lawyer thought, “The first thing the idiot customer will do is throw the sleeve away,” so he repeated the warning to the right of that in 1/8″ printing and added, “SAVE THIS WARNING.”

“But Your Honor, we told him to save the warning. It’s not our fault he threw it away.” :lol:

on Valentines Day perhaps ?

Bung hole??? That’s in a barrel all right, but one for liquids, not one for pork.

Would oil prices and trillion dollar war constitute pork barrel spending?

Also, I just wanted to thank everyone for their kind words for my infamous success spiel seen here:

For the record, Soulja boy is NOT successful by any means. Success is a sumit. You have to climb the mountain for years in order to truly appreciate the view. Not only that, but it actually requires a skill to climb a mountain side…
…Call me old school, but I happen to like being old money because it teaches you how to not only obtain affluence with actual skills, but it also teaches you how to master and maintain money properly so you don’t become a “soulja” BOY, you learn to be a MAN, hold your own, and take care of your loved ones. To me, the definintion of succcess is finding someone to share it with.

myspace.com/intuitive_alphamale.

If you enjoyed that thought and wanted to see more, please feel free to visit the website above. I have over 400 thought provocative blogs much like the one seen, ranging in topic anywhere from politics to academia to personal finance to my life long celebrity friends.

Thanks i will read that article also.

Chrysler, i meant

Very interesting Marina. I have a challenge for you now. Earlier today I found myself telling a good friend if it was “[worth his while]” he could meet me someplace this weekend. Afterwards, I started thinking. “[Worth your while].” What kind of phrase is that? What does “while”‘s worth represent anyway? How can it be ‘worth a while”? What is someone’s “while”? Hmmm. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Perhaps HotForWords can investigate this mysterious phrase and its origin? Thank you. ;)

Also, can you please check out origin of the word [bumfuzzle]? I’m deeply confused, lol.

Nancy Palose, and Harry Reid’s stimulous bill.

Maria…
I was wondering where the phrase [ jack knife ] came from.
Wishing you a Happy Valentine Day… Hugs and kisses.

Oh, I miss the “another mystery solved “

yes pork barrells belong to the politicians, “their” barrells are pork barrells not barrels. get it? A joke? The barrells are larger by 1 L than regular barrels. Okay it’s kinda corny.

I’d hate to see you loose a bet, Mike. :grin:

Or perhaps you can look at a dictionary to find out that a “while” is a period or interval of time… so “worth your while” is the same as “worth your time”… which is to say that meeting you some where over the weekend would be worth the time spent.

Good night people

Maybe it would help to elect your government from candidates who have worked in the insurance industry. They don’t shrink from applying appropriate rates to those with a higher risk rating.

That’s 1 L of a logical argument. :grin:

There are known risks ( for which due diligence is appropriate ) and there are hidden risks. As I said elsewhere some people with good credit may lose their jobs and be unavoidably unable to pay their loans. If the loan is secured by collateral ( a car or real estate for example ) the bank ( and its investors ) are protected to some extent.

Banks have been in a frenzy to compete on giving unsecured loans. They wrote loans for property without equity and ( big shock ) when the property values dropped below their equity value, the borrowers elected to walk away. The bank ( and its investors ) were unprotected. This is not a good way of doing business. I expect the bank and its employees to do business smarter and not take these risks.

“It’s a business doing pleasure with you, Senator.”
– Dolly Parton in The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas

politics , the best topic in the world to discuss :mrgreen:

Yo, Happy Birthday, smokey.
I want a new computer for my birthday, too, but I’m going to have to buy it myself … (When my wife is not looking. :twisted: )

except, maybe, religion.

I think they do not care if we figure it out. They figure we will not (cannot) do anything about it.

If you need any help waking up this morning, what better than to wake up to a pair of hooters. :lol:

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Hey, you are up late!

I’m sorry .You can not see Palestine Peoples ,need they are help now!lets you can able help to Palestine Peoples now if you want!

Regarding 32.1.1.1.3: if one signs a contract, the contract spells out what happens if one defaults — there is no “punishment” or “reward” over and above what one signed up for. But today, if one deafult on a contract, one expects the government to tax other people to bail one out with “stimulus packages”!

Hey Marina can you please tell me the origin of [peeping tom]

Hmmmmm well I am off to go eat breakfast

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Policy is police, happy friday the 13th…good luck :oops: [luck]…[hearts] too, to HOTFORWORDS*!*!*!*!*

2 hours to Valentines Day here …. another boring year

Marina: My Funny Valentine By Nico…nice words for you, from this song. Bee good Master of the *****Republic of LEXICON*****Happy Valentines to you on this friday the 13th :cool: :eek: :roll: luv

Women In Uniform inspirations…videos of HotforWords—Rock :lol:

I am looking forward to seeing you on The O’Reilly Factor tonight. When my wife and I are at the musical ‘Legally Blonde’ tomorrow, I will pretend I am with you.

Kevin

For clarification purposes, the beauty in the picture is my daughter.

Kevin at a Texans game

Another Valentine for Miss -master of ********HotForWords…The Tubes – She’s A Beauty – Wildhorse Saloon – Nashville TN… Fee Waybill gives about a 3 minute intro into what gave him the idea to write the song. If you just want to hear the song skip to the 3:10 mark :lol: :roll:

Don’t tell your wife that! She might be slightly upset :eek:

hay baling in Hungary…A hotforwords comment mixed with an ‘you tube’ pun and lesson…**LEXICON** republic…homeys of Etymologia :lol: testtset

Did you give up on the paging idea? It would have sped up the site for sure on loading and reloading. Maybe even handle the Orielly Factor rush on the site. :smile:

I’d love for my wife to meet “M”… but no to be “M”.
I hope your wife understands what you meant when she reads this… & trust me… she will.
Your daughter is lovely, as is mine… inherits her mother’s good looks. My boys also inherit the good stuff from their mom too.
How recent is the picture of your daughter?

This picture of me and my 26 year old daughter was taken in November of 2008 at the Texans/Titan game. The Texans beat the conference leading Titans. This is a pregame tailgate party picture so we are both very sober at this moment. After the game, not so much.

Kevin

i will try to install al new feauteres thanks, capman911

yes, but we all have fantasy(s). It will pay off before valentines night is over!

Kevin

Women in Uniform, like on last night’s Kath and Kim episode. LOL :shock:

As George Harrison talked about socialism in the Beatle song “taxman’, there’s one for you 19 for me. Welcome to change.

Hi Marina! Thanks for the video! And this is what does my dictionnary says about “pok barel”
Pork barrel казенная кормушка Национальная казна, из которой конгрессмены черпают средства на осуществление всевозможных программ в интересах своего избирательного округа. Выражение возникло в южных рабовладельческих штатах до Гражданской войны [Civil War ], когда время от времени хозяева выставляли неграм-рабам бочку со свиной солониной, из которой каждый старался ухватить кусок побольше. pork

What have you been teaching Gorby these days. :lol:

Could you tell me the orgin of the word [матрешка matryoshka] please?

nice pic))

Thanks, Pavel. :smile:

More often than not, Pork Barrel spending occurs when politicians try to return favors to political supporters. Politicians receive donations from organizations, such as unions, who push for building projects… that will end up providing work for their members.

The projects are often part of a deal with a particular politician, who holds out voting for a specific bill unless they add the Pork item to the end of the bill… often totally unrelated to the specific bill in question. So, these ridiculous items become part of the overall cost, and thus we have the total financial chaos in our government spending today.

Previous Presidents have asked for the ability to have “line item” veto power: the ability to delete these pork items from worthwhile bills, but of course, congress is unwilling to allow this.

If we ever hope to get contol of the government budget again, we need to change this entire system.

I would like to request the word [Fart] and

the phrase [my life is in the palm of your hand].

Can you tell where did the word Ninja come from.

onlycasperman: :cool: Prayers should be met for the Palestine Peoples…music helps MIA ask this guy for help, Bob Dylan – Thunder On The Mountain… :idea:

:mrgreen: :evil: :mad: example of pork barrel spending “that which got the present president in office :oops:

Nice

I guess that new pages thing wasn’t working out.

Anyway, the other white meat! :mrgreen:

so! what!

Ah yes, it’s FRIDAY THE 13TH. Here’s a review to the video game by the Angry Nintendo Nerd. :mrgreen: :cool:

:oops: Try this LINK.

Unfortunately, one person’s pork is another one’s dinner.
How much government is just right?
I’ve more government than I need or can afford.
Apparently the majority of voters don’t believe the same way.

Except, we don’t seem to learn very well.
The shortest thing in the world must be them memory of the American
Electorate, Okay, second shortest.

That which bought Clinton cigars for Monica. :lol: :lol:

Pork barrel! hmmm; I know few man: NASA! :lol:

:oops: the not them. Poor brain hand coordination? Bad finger! :evil:

WHAT

I’d like to request a word, who knows maybe this time i’d become lucky. o.k. the word is: Facsimile

Can I request a word? It is kind of wiered but I would likr to know were the word wedgie came from. Thank you.

Don’t you remember the President Bill Clinton Monica Lewinsky sex scandal in the oval office with the cigar?

:mrgreen: http://www.pa56.org/images/STARR.jpg :lol:

Good find Cufan71. :lol:

Happy birthday Smokey and a many more. :grin:

Our gas in NC is starting to rise back up. It’s almost at the $2.00 mark now. It was so nice when it was lower. Oh well s@%t happens and we are knee deep in it again. I need some more waders. :neutral:

I wish they would bail me out. I need a new hunting truck. :lol:

Yea I did. I wrote both political parties. You have heard from them more than I have and this has been four months ago. :evil: bastards.

Get some nose plugs! They just passed the crap-”stimulus” package WITHOUT EVEN READING WHAT’S IN IT! IN VIOLATION OF THE 48 HOUR REVIEW RULE! ALL so Nancy Pelosi could catch her flight to Rome on time (supposedly). Republicans and 7 Democrats all voted NO.
(Time to start packing high velocity rounds)
Don’t wait until it’s too late :mrgreen:

Since it’s the thought that counts…
How does it make you feel knowing that Kevin is unfaithful in his heart to his wife and child?
I hope this type of man isn’t what you like… :neutral:

Oh I have plenty of 223 rounds and 40 caliber. :twisted:

[truck] is my word request…[van]@@&or the cache of sardines hide up my ascertainment and who’s got a bone to pick… :grin: :lol: Hail to *H*O*T*for*WO*R*D*S*

You cannot lump war spending into pork barrel spending :shock:
It is only by necessity that funds be spent to win and finish the wars started by enemies of the USA.

Led by Obama, don’t forget! :mrgreen:
This is the “change” he was campaigning on???

Or that most people just don’t care as long as they are snug in their homes and think they are protected and safe they will take what comes their way. They will believe what ever the media or the government tells them. It’s pathetic how complacent we as a nation have become. Even our government knows this and flaunts it in our faces. :shock:

Thank you. And it’s great to be back :grin:

A nationwide highway system can arguably benefit everyone.

A bridge that goes nowhere benefits only a very few ( probably not even those who live nearby if it doesn’t go anywhere ).

When bases are closed the closures should be based on the least damaging impact to the military, not the surrounding congressional district.

Thank you, and good luck with the computer. I got an HP and it is waaaaaaaaaaay faster than my old one.

Thank you Capman :grin:

I agree with you on how much government do we need and can afford. But it grows every day and no one steps up to say no more we have had enough. If you did you could be labeled a terrorist now a days instead of a rebel to fight the system. The system has out grown us and we can’t stop it. :???:

Find something out about this word: Alien Moviez

Oh, my…VERY good!

That was great, Capman!

Neutral :neutral: ChaCha? Might that eek :eek: not be an eek :eek: of dismay, appall, and horror?

Good point, my friend.

Much as I hate to think we’ve reached this point-my arsenal is stocked-up, too.

By the way, are ya’ll paying attention to the situation in Mexico? Being a Texan, I sure am.

Outstanding :cool:

Crap! Doesn’t it suck to be having conversations about socialism in America and national security and financial chaos when we could be focusing on Valentine’s day, and sweeties, and Marina…?
Life goes on, right?

Nothing wrong with that? Live and learn? Serve your needs in the most efficient manners?

Sure thing, boss. Some coffee with that? Buffaloes are pretty cool most of the time, but you don’t want to go too far and really piss off one of them, because what originally started as a clownesque rodeo will probably end like a gory corrida.

Great to hear from you!
Hope your birthday was fun, Smokey!

are you out of your fucking mind?

don’t answer that.
idiots.

but WHAT’s that got to do with the current resident of the whitehouse?

Were did the word basketball come from i would like to hear your thoughts on that thanks!

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Nothing tjhbob, it was just a joke.

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Marina,

ALL our wives (even our ex’s) are “slightly” upset with you. It’s axiomatic! :mrgreen: (Is that a [malaprop]?)

Typing this during lockdown mode at 5:31 Pacific Time — just curious to see what it will look like when it appears.

Comment is visible when I am logged in, but invisible when I am not.

Log in just jump from 22 to 2864 hope they all go vote for Marina in the sexiest geek of the year contest.

Here is the link to vote for Marina as sexiest geek

Hi Marina, I would like to know about [trepidatious]. I saw you on The O’Reilly Factor for the first time tonight. Thanks alot and have a great weekend.

lockdown sounds scary…please hurry

Hey Bob I found you a stool so when you wear a Kilt if you do wear a Kilt. :lol:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/582985/80448872.jpg

Here is a word/ phrase “choking the chicken”

You shouldn’t play with your PETA. :lol:

The smilies are gone and the comment numbers are gone. Now how do we get the pages gone?

Hello Marina!
How about the word [raze]?
Love the YouTube channel!
– Jeff

And the edit is gone! The comment URLs now have the page number imbedded in them, so you will probably have to include the page number in any link.

I think this is a case of three steps backwards and one step backwards.

I knew this was going to air but I was not to say anything about it until February. About a week ago Episode 13 of the Bachelor aired on TV. I wanted to watch it for (yours truly) I was on film. There is a part where the couple went out on a ferry ride to see Seattle. That’s the ferry just one dock away from my yacht. I also have worked for the company in the past and I still go for rides from time to time with the crew. During the filming I was pulling on some lines in a few shots. I’m not sure if any of my shots made the cut for the industry film many hours of footage just in case there are problems. If anyone see Episode 13 and seen me pulling on line on this ferry boat let me know! The captain running the ferry boat is a friend of mine and you will see him in a few scenes I’m sure. Once I get my hard drive issue solved I’ll try to upload a small behind the scenes of the ferry boat. I did some filming myself for a future project (hopeful) to hopefully get a hosting job on one of the Discovery channels. It was a busy November – January for me.
So if anyone seen me on the show or know where I can download the show so I can look for myself, please click on my screen name and it should take you to my contact page. Oh I was wearing a bright orange life jacket so I should be easy to spot, that’s if I’m even in the shot.

Finally, a Quote of the Day that seems to fit right in. :roll:

Hey, somebody’s gotta do it.

WP’s pix viewer is not working; a linked pix is opened in a new window. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

I am sure we are in a work in process. Lady M will take good care of our playground, as she has in the past.
{I do miss the smileys, though.}

:smile: :smile: :smile: :grin: :grin: :grin: Happy Now :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :roll:

Everything is Broken :twisted:

ORIGIN OF [breast]

I prefer this one, Mike. :twisted:

Origin of [Alien Moviez] i think it will be very hard :grin:

That one is cool. :lol:

I have two word requests..

[museum] – does it have anything to do with a Muse?

[tongue in cheek] – why does putting your tongue in your cheek mean you’re kidding?

Happy Valentine’s Day Marina!

Here are all of the smileys with the semi colon missing on the right side. If I added the semi colon you would have a regular yellow round smiley. So if you type one next to a sentence remember that semi colons have to be on both sides of the words. This is if the smileys are missing again. :smile:

: mrgreen
: neutral
: twisted
: arrow
: shock
: smile
: ???
: cool
: evil
: grin
: idea
: oops
: razz
: roll
: wink
: cry
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Copperhead Road…barrel knowledge…[rum] :?:

the obama stimulus package.

Random Lesson: bitchassness lesson and technically associated. bye bye

John Lennon – Give Peace A Chance (Live 1972)
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It’s the transition that’s troublesome.” – Isaac **********i second, shane; your hotFORWords request :cool: hotforCoolwords

What a Cool find leonard – never knew how they made them – but they didn’t show how they do the bulge in the middle – which is probably the tricky part!

Do you live near Hobart?

:grin:

I am reading this about 6 months after you wrote it.

These ae indeed agregious examples that go on all the time for wasting taxpayer money.

What struck me after just having watched the lesson, was the idea that pork–barrel USED TO BE solely a payback to rich contibutors or buddies of the politicians, and the amounts listed here are a large accumulation of ‘chicken feed’ sized payments to perhaps do payback on the local level fo the buddies of the local guys [lining up at the trough].

Many also seem pork-barrel to keep unfunded folks in academia into jobs that the public sector would never fund with private $.

Then we gotta start looking at the REAL MONEY like 700 Billion to bail out bankers and Wall Street Crooks for bad decisions, and another 64 Billion to keep GM’s bad decisions from hitting bankruptcy court – and on and on.

Another $2 Billion is being loaned to George Soros’ latest investment in a Bazilian Oil Company as I heard today.

It’s equal opportunity payoffs to every Lackey or Puppet Master – large or small who helped the ‘winning team’ win — at public expense.

And each party accuses the other of being corrupt!

And they are BOTH right! YIKES! :roll: :cry: :???:

The US military industrial complex.

Pork Barrel spending justified by American fear of pretty much everything.

Test… Uno dos tres.. uno dos tres…. Avatar switch test… test…

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