Comments are whack

Dang, I saw that video earlier First on YT
albeit doing my homework for albeit, albeit this is not the albeit lesson. :-)

You know, I am really tempted to be #1-#100, should I make a run for it? Nahhh. Pssst, guys, lookie here.

Hu?

WTF are you talking about?

Nothing, just making conversation with myself :-)

I know, that’s what I said.
I just left you another comment re: sleep.
Gotta run.
See you later around 3 AM

To use bad english correctly, you have to punctuate (right?) :mrgreen:
Sho ’nuff said.
A well thought out blanket response to the You Tube whack commentary – good job :cool:

Has this website been upgraded again to make things look a little bigger? Because it seems a little glitchy with the emoticons and some pics are not being downloaded. :???:

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woW! inkradybl! u go sista’5!
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hahahaha…dang, and here i thought my comments were better ‘n that…(-;

Ok video, horrible delivery. :neutral:
I just got this overwhelming sence of bitchyness flying off my screen.
I know its supposed to be funny, but with all the obvious pent up anger and disapproval shining through like a laser, it wasn’t.
Two thumbs down from this kid. :neutral:

Now ZipIt!

:eek: whutup! thuts wack! me be lurning prawpurr englesh

I guess things went back to normal. Don’t know what happened before, …whether it was the internet or the computer. :???:

Shhh! :mrgreen:

ORIGIN OF SOLES!!

Cute video. I feel insulted and happy that this video was created. The gals have no leg to stand of for they committed the same crime as the people that poor grammar comments on their videos. Now what’s needed is for them to make lesson’s on teaching grammar rules that is fun and interesting to watch. As an old rule of thumb it’s best not to just offer what is wrong but also offer solutions to the problem.

“Scott, ya just don’t get it do ya?… Ya don’t.”
Now thats a great delivery! :wink:

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well i think its wrong for them to associate offensive behavior with alternative grammars or language usage such as sms. there are plenty of people who use these alternatives that are very respectful and contribute a lot of supportive comments on youtube. this is a very good example of competing cultural expectations for language and grammar. this video link explains further. as well as this link on lexicography. these are links to videos on code switching and the values of american english, the last being particularly interesting and well worth the 10 minutes. the diversity of languages, grammars, codes, the development of sms adds to the value of american english and the variety of dialogues that are taking place. as is usually the case, the subject of language and culture is far more complex than just “proper” or “bad” grammar and its associations with intelligence, social acceptance, etc…

why

Dem dam chiks is ugly as hell!

sister salad…did they mention ELLIPSES?…or how the schools teach sports like football to the boys and being coached by the men and then the rest of the gang to support their playing around…grade school is like masters over the professional parents learning Americanisms. This should be funny, so be good and the present God will save your playpens. Talk gets cheap and stays in the rules of laws. SCIENCE is sold with a dash. :lol: :roll: :razz: more toys for the beggars

Actually, there are alot of crude, vulgar, ugly omments on youtube. But bad grammer? Never bothered me. But they say gals like the bad boys right?. Maybe that is why they are trying to imitate them. Or could it just be that time of the month?

I like this video.

pedanticKarl’s name is a hot link to vote for Marina ……..

Personally, bad grammar doesn’t bother me at all. I don’t give a darn about grammar to be honest. You can’t expect everybody to be a Ph.D. in English literature, can you? Sometimes the most interesting and intelligent comments are posted with a very poor grammatical style. English is not the mother tongue of lots of people in this world, and there are some very honest pushes to get it replaced by Esperanto as an international language. For lots of bilingual, trilingual, quadrilingual, etc… people) english is just a sideline language (and quite an easy one to learn indeed). So I wouldn’t be too harsh on them if they make some grammatical mistakes here and there. I would also add that making fun of them is a very coarse thing to do, especially if the person who makes fun of them is an unilingual english-speaker.

Crude or offensive comments of course are another issue. They may very well bother some people. But youtube offers a “no comment” option, doesn’t it?

Please don’t be offended by my remark, but this is written rather poorly and I can see a couple of grammatical mistakes here, rshush. Perhaps English is not your native language then.

Happy trails nevertheless,

You think well, Buzz. Yes, you think well.

Your gravatar, though, your gravatar…

Nevertheless very true my dear.

Nevertheless it is the truth. And that never hurt anybody no matter how you spell it.

Awesome!!! Though grammar was never something I put much effort into, as the years go by I see that learning the proper grammar is very important. You ladies even make it fun. Thank you.

This is excellent, albeit over most haters heads I imagine. :wink:

dot your I’s and cross you t’s :smile: :smile:

:mrgreen: YESSSSSSS!!!!!

@Buzzword and others reading this…

Thanks Buzzword for including your links. I even bookmarked them for later reference. If Jess Sheildlower was making a video on YouTube his video would be FLAGGED! (YT decision makers are so stupid, their flagging/censorship discrepancy can easily solved if they used their minds a bit more. Heck other industries in their field have solve it.) Sorry got off on a tangent there.
Erin McKean did a great lecture in Redefining the dictionary. I’m very impressed. I love how that women thinks! She makes me feel not ashamed that I don’t know those big words as she does. I have to meet this women someday. Might even drag Marina along for the ride. Oh btw if you couldn’t read her website addy here it is: http://www.dictionaryevangelist.com/

@Others
I really like the interview of the two gentlemen about the difference of descriptivists vs. prescriptivists. I can’t stand being criticized by the prescriptivists when the general public does not generally follow the rules of proper grammar. What good are rules when they are not enforced or accepted. On the other hand in order for me to follow these rules they need to be clearly defined and not to have hundreds of exceptions to the rules. What if I took your checkbook and changed the value of the number “2″? i.e. 2+2=5 depending on how I set the value of #2. There is a t-shirt at ThinkGeek that says: “2 + 2 = 5″ above a smaller subtitle “(For extremely large values of 2.)”. Now you would be happy about that rule but if I where to choose a lower value you would not be very happy with me. One rule that really bothers me to no end is, “I before E except after C”.. there are many exceptions to the rule. Looking at just the vowels a,e,i,o,u and sometimes y.. Whats up with sometimes?
If a rule is not generally followed then it has no reason to exist. They should only exist as guidelines and if someone wants to depart from the guideline then that’s ok. For it might bother me or others to no end, so be it.

I admire Albert Einstein for he was a very smart man and yet had difficulty with other subjects. In elementary school, Albert was such an under achiever in all subjects other than math and science that his parents suspected that he might be retarded. In the recollections of the family recorded by Einstein’s younger sister, Maja, in 1924, Albert appears as a calm, dreamy, slow, but self-assured and determined child. Another three decades later, Einstein himself told his biographer, Carl Seelig, that “my parents were worried because I started to talk comparatively late, and they consulted a doctor because of it.”

Albert flunked the entrance exam at the Zurich Polytechnic. Albert left his Munich Gymnasium in the middle of the seventh of nine obligatory high-school years, at the age of 15. When, with special permission, he presented himself for the entrance exam at the Zurich Polytechnic in the following autumn, he was still one and a half years short of the required age to enter that college. Also, as German and Swiss school curricula differ substantially, his knowledge, for instance, of French and of some general subjects definitely did not meet Swiss high-school diploma standards. So it was the circumstances that ‘handicapped’ Einstein, rather than his own personal inabilities. More noteworthy than the fact that he failed the exam is that his knowledge in mathematics and physics impressed his examiner in such a way that he invited the boy to his college lectures even before Albert was accepted as a regular student.

To provide evidence of a “learning disability” it has been argued that Einstein’s special talents in particular subjects were linked to an exceptionally strong deficiency in other areas. Einstein’s own words, too, appear to substantiate his impediment in languages, and as early, seemingly impartial evidence of his weakness in languages the above-cited exam is often mentioned. An attempt to learn Hebrew, Einstein is quoted in 1923 as saying, would be unproductive work for him.

But in the entrance exam to the Polytechnic, that he took after only half a year of French lessons at the Gymnasium, Albert had to compete with Swiss graduates who had at least six years of French study. And the statement with respect to the Hebrew language was the realistic evaluation of a 43-year-old scientist who had no use for that particular language and, therefore, no motivation to learn it. Ten years later, the American immigrant was well able to acquire the necessary knowledge to communicate with his new compatriots. Would anyone be surprised that at the age of fifty-five he did not reach the same high level in English as he did in his mother tongue, and had, another decade later, to admit that he “cannot write in English, because of the treacherous spelling?”

Also in 1955, before his death, a newspaper reporter was interviewing Albert Einstein. At the end of the interview, the reporter asked if he could have Einstein’s telephone number so he could call if he had any further questions. “Certainly” replied Einstein. He walked over to a small table, picked up the telephone book and looked up his phone number, then he wrote it on a slip of paper and handed it to the reporter.
Trying not to look dumbfounded, the reporter asked, “You’re considered one of the smartest men in the world and you can’t remember your own phone number?” Einstein looked at him with amusement and replied, “Why should I memorize something when I know where to find it?”

Should we judge Albert on his grammar ability? Can we use is grammar skills as a measurement of his intelligence? Should we be measured in our knowledge of theoretical physics?

I agree with the ladies that we should do better in using our grammar but I don’t think we should be judged for the lack of skills in this area. I blame our poor support to our education system. I feel that my 12 years I grade school was a waste of my time. I had a feeling my teachers had little help in improving the learning process. Today I even see our college systems lacking in knowledge. A good friend of mine received a degree in computer programming. What a mazed me was the lessons he was receiving in college I learned in high school.

Whew! It’s late and I need to get some sleep. I said my piece for now.

While watching one of the video links Buzzword gave us. There was a link to The language challenge – facing up to reality I’m not familiar with this language called Esperanto. Does it solve many problems with English and others?

Amazing how the original song has survived so long.

tsk-tsk This is exactly the stuff they are talking about. You just proved their point. Are you 14? Maybe they’re onto something here!

I understand where you are coming from.Nonetheless, I don’t think these girls are trying to offend the masses of non-fluent, english speaking folks out there. I myself have had many experiences with these 13yr olds replying to your comments with vulgarity and crude immature references that neither make sense nor are they warrented.Theyneed not waste my time. It is annoying, obnoxious and overall ridiculous. I am quite sick of dealing with it, and I applaud these women for saying something about it. It is something that needs to be dealt with. It seems like there is a hoard of prepubescent kids out there whom spend so much of their time texting and I.M.ing that they either don’t know how to be grammatically correct,or have forgotten. Sad.

I thought this was a much needed :wink: answer to the hoards of immature 13 yr olds out there whom deliver cowardly texted assaults daily. I have been a victim of this and I know EXACTLY where you beautiful, intelligent women are coming from. You will get some hate for this I’m quite sure. I say,!&@%#$@%!^$@ it! Good for you for standing up and saying something about an ever increasing and annoying problem. I have dealt with this myself and I always find it humorous that these kids respond to my comments as if I were a man. Ignorance is bliss.

I agree fully that grammar and good spelling are important. But it also really bothers me when grammar elitists dismiss relevant ideas and comments of other people if their grammar isn’t perfect. Sometimes it is the idea behind the expression, and not the expression itself that matters.

The the elitist cannot grasp a concept due to bad grammar or diction, then maybe the problem is not entirely the fault of the person they are ignoring. Maybe the self important grammar freaks simply lack imagination and experience outside the realm of their very narrow language parameters.

This is my favorite video below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj6QqCH7g0Q

Btw, Marina, you are the epitome of an ideal teacher that every man fathoms. Now all you need is a pyramid of apples and a myriad of attentitive students.

Question: what is the significance/origin of the apple?
Used in adam and eve to suggest temptation. Used in snow white and pirates of the carribean to represent poison, used to spread happiness in “Johnny Appleseed”, and a traditional treat to bring to the teachers. But why an apple? And how did someone come up with the word “apple”?

me luvz it n i conquer cumpleety

:roll:

By the grace of Doctor HotForWords :cool: , EYE no yurr kideeng!

It’s good that these lesb-- smart girls hope to catch even a little bit out of your audience, but I’ll only subscribe to them if Doctor HotForWords tells me to!

Oh were they talking about their hatred for people who speak the truth?
They are indeed sickies. And they just seek to spread their poison as in right here. Can you see it yet? Or maybe you are just part of the poison. At 14 people are just beginning to get twisted. Adults like you are the most twisted. Tell me exactly, what is cute about this garbage? If Marina changed her videos to become like this, she would have no future at all . But I havent seen even one of hers like this refuse. Maybe she posted it, because on utube she does get vulgar comments. But instead of playing it for those who give vulgar comments , she posts it for her admirers and those who say positive things to see. It is like a slap in the face, taking punishment for a crime someone else commited. Not a smart move.

Well said. I think they are lesb…haters of men. That is all. It shows so glaringly.

I dont beleive they are kids for the most part. Kids still have an innocence about them for the most part. These are sick adults who probably are very respected in their community , and no one has any idea….Just like the child predators, murderers, ect. Very sick people. Fools.

Actually, there are alot of crude, vulgar, ugly omments on youtube. But bad grammer? Never bothered me. But they say gals like the bad boys right?. Maybe that is why they are trying to imitate them. Or could it just be that time of the month?

This was my comment! Who cut it short???

Perhaps the point these young ladies are trying to make is the perception that improper grammar gives about the commenter. We do have only one chance to make a first impression, and our grammar plays a big part in that impression. If I am trying to voice my opinion, people hear not only what I am saying, but how I am saying it. Poor grammar, excessive negativity, demeaning attitude, and other unflattering aspects of my delivery may negatively influence the audience’s digestion of my intended point. I can ruin a very good argument by presenting it in an offending manner. :cool:

I also agree with bobsully’s comment below that these ladies are preaching to the choir. The people who could learn the most from this message will just not get it. :cry:

:roll:

They speak to the uneducated masses. But do they get heard? Are they reaching their intended audience? Or are they preaching to the choir?

Questions abound. :wink:

How friggin’ fun is this(?), and it’s nice that someone, anyone, actually cares.

After reading through some of the comments, this video applies to ones like mythman and rshush. Where do you get “haters of men” from? Your comments are whack and lame, especially when you revert to name calling in lieu of an intelligent response.

Although I want to add that I really do enjoy everybody else’s comments and love Hot for Word and PedanticKarl. :grin:

Thanks for the link Captain Jack. Very interesting indeed.

I’m giving credit to the salad sisters for addressing the importance of the three r’s; reedun, ryet’n, and Rrthmatics. It’s not like the salad sisters really had to do a public service announcement for these clowns.

And capitialize the first letter in a sentence.

Naughty girls,with too much time on their hands! Jimj122345.

You mean, “The people who could learn the most from this message will just not get it, dude.” There, now you are writing for the audience that needs it. :roll:

Also the first number. Nothing shows one’s ignorancy like a sentence starting with a lower-case number.

The parallel to grammar is, of course, driving. Left side, right side, what difference does it make if you get there OK? If there is nobody in a lane, it’s up for grabs I say. And why should you waste gas stopping at an intersection if nobody’s there? It’s nice and peaceful driving the wrong way down one-way streets, because it’s free of all those distracting traffic signs (they face the other way). Yep, we don’t need grammar at all. :grin:

An English professor wrote the words: “A woman without her man is nothing” on the chalkboard and asked the class to punctuate it correctly.

All the males in the class wrote: ” A woman, without her man, is nothing.”

All the females wrote: ” A woman: without her, man is nothing.”

Punctuation matters.

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I don’t agree. Driving is a parallel to the work, not the essence.

Driving is the difference between Kurt Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorems and Friedrich Schiller’s Aesthetic Letters. One is poetry, the other one is logic. Grammar is just an axiom. A very basic, self-explaining construction. Like, for instance, your vehicle. Grammar doesn’t need to be perfect to convey your ideas or your feelings, precisely or not, deterministically or artistically, any way you choose it to be. Like the difference between a Van Gogh and the map of the metro of Vienna. Grammar can be corrected later on without changing anything to the result of the work.

Sorry Captain Jack. Just realized that I didn’t even answer your question yesterday. It’s because I read you too fast, not because I didn’t want to. Not very kind of my part anyways. :-)

Esperanto is more technical than other languages. It is extremely precise and well constructed. You can’t play a lot with it (in that aspect it is not as fun as English), I think it would translate poetry very poorly, so I don’t totally agree with the person in the video. But it would make an excellent international language.

Cheers,

I admit, it was low of me to typify the lesbos as … lesbos ( :!: Dearest Doctor! Be not thou too vengeful in thy wrath of raining of wet-noodle lashes, Lady Orlova! :twisted: )

I–like the sovereign king of all talk radio (Howard be thy name)–LLLLLLOVE LESBIANS! They are wise in that choice … we men are disgusting animals, only acceptable to the women when we go out by day to slaughter wildlife for dinner.

And really, I’m sure the lesbos are just waiting for their princes to arrive to clear away the dragons (who also love lesbians … “raw and wriggling!”) Until then, they’ll keep grammatically clean for our Lady the Doctor.

I want to continue the conversation but not here. I’ve posted my reply here.

no, that video was lame and stupid and hateful. That is all it was ,ename calling and na na, na na, 2 year old nonsense. Obviously you are also twisted in the same manner. Why dont you go
critsize theonesthat give vulgar
comments?Oh you think proper
punctuation is the impotant thing in life. Stupid and twisted indeed!

I disagree with that completely

Hey Marina. Any chance on making a video with these cool chicks? do I smell a compilation video? I vote yes!!

So true!!!!!!

mostly the choir, me thinks.

geiniuss ow didd thay ceep a Stra8t Fase ,Doin dat

I shared this fun video with my wife, Mrs. Swede. She, too, is a grammar-spelling Nazi.

Love when she says lie

Hot for Punctuation. I need discipline. Make me beg for partial credit.

Well, at least they dot their i’s. :smile: