Cliché

I was wondering when you’d get to adopted-into-English phrases. Good Choice!
Which reminds me, can you do research on meanings to words that people might have forgotten. Like for example, I KNOW there’s a word for “words or phrases adopted in total from one language to another,” but I can’t remember it.

see i told you

wtf I was almost 1st on YT ( i would have been first if i hadnt of been downloading after effects. SO i come here and it already up IT ONLY HAS 13 VIEWS!!

hello

Hi Marina! Good morning and thanks!! :smile: Q

Marina will never be annoying…there you go being good :wink:

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Loan words or loan phrases they are called.

p.s. Homework: I try my utmost to speak and write free from clichés though I suspect this to be a vain effort because, at least I believe, much of our language capabilities derive from repeating words, sayings, and turns of phrase we have heard from others. So, clichés may simply be a consequence of the process of learning to communicate with language.

This said, the cliché I am working on using less frequently is, “to make a long story short.”

Cheers, Q :smile:

Cliche: “This is a free country.”

Especially sadly funny, since it no longer is.

Another great lesson Marina.
I need a lollipop for my pain. I’ve been excluded twice now.
I also asked for the word cliche.

hmmm…well, since i have a new friend who is a doctor, i’d like to think i can give her a taste of her own medicine…but that time heals all wounds…

of course, hopefully she’s able to read between the lines and understand that i’m just pulling her leg…

something that might actually be fun… :cool:

btw, i did change my gravatar yesterday, but AnnudderSanta is still showing up here…y’all let me know if you see Annudder2009… :lol:

can you explain the difference between an insurgency, militia and paramilitaries?

Hey Annudder, I see the stickman with a beard and hat. Is that the one you are referring to?

where does the word ”marihuana” come from ?

maybe ann odd question , but it’s an odd word :D

Dear совершенная Marina, Are you the grand-daughter or grand-niece of Lyubov Petrovna Orlova (Любовь Петровна Орлова)? Born in 1902 and passed away in 1975. She was very beautiful and she starred in many movies to inspire the soviet people and received many awards, including one at the Venice film festaval. She acted, sang, danced, and also played dramatic roles. She also received many awards, included one bestowed by Josef Stalin, himself. :roll: :shock:
I think Lyubov Petrovna would be proud ot you for your success on the Internet, whether you are related, or not. :razz:
The cliche that applies would be “Like mother, like daughter” if you were so related! Or, you would both be part of the “beautiful people!”
Бог благословляет вас. seesixcm6

Great lesson Marina. I didn’t know that is where cliche came from. I guess that’s why we are in class to learn from you. I have seen where people hold up to fingers on both hands when making a comment and curl them like they are scratching something. Is that a cliche or suppose to be a quote about what they are talking about :?:

Home work: what goes up must come down.

how about the phase…

“TIME TO PAY THE PIPER!”

by the by…
Thank you so much for the Christmas card. :grin: :smile:

I didn’t even get a Christmas card… just the PRE-Christmas card about a week or two ago. :neutral:

Did you check your spam folder or junk email? Some of them have gone to those email boxes? If not I can send you one, I know it’s not the same as getting it from Marina. Your call Taz any way I can help you. :grin:

I guess you like the forum as is…. If you ever need me for anything. You know where I am

:mrgreen: :neutral: :twisted: :arrow: :shock: :smile: :???: :cool: :evil: :grin: :idea: :oops: :razz: :roll: :wink: :cry: :eek: :lol: :mad: :sad: :!: :?:

WOW! I have never seen that before

Not one of those is messed up

MY COMMENT IS AWAITNG MODERTATION!!!

WHY AM I ON MODERATION!!

What did i do?

Dear Miss Marina Orlova,

A Needle in a Hey Jack? Uh Huh… that was classic.. :cool:

“I Love You” , is that Cliché?

Your Dear Student,
ThoughtOnFire

probably b/c of your stupid nickname.

Here’s a video REMIX I came across that is NOT recommended for children! :mrgreen:

and why the hell does my comment not appear as a reply?

You used “Marina” and “bitch” in the same post. In some cases, that’s a BIG no-no. Your usage here is quite correct and, therefore, acceptable – heh heh :mrgreen:

if the hat is red with a white ball on the top, that’s AnnudderSanta…Annudder2009 has “2009″ on the cap… :cool:

Yea it’s annuder 2009 :wink:

lol

more likely, though, due to your extensive use of those goddamn smilies.

Probably because of your stupid face :lol: JOKES!!! Sorry just had to say that. Nothing to do with the nick… It was fine earlier on. I think I have an idea..

nah, that’s not it.

here: marina is an attention bitch.

pending?

Just what i thought. I copied and pasted them to se if they would turn out as links or smilies.

Marina has a dog which is obviously a son of a bitch..

Hmmm, I remember (well, NOT remember) a Latin-sounding word for it. “Loan word” just sounds so prosaic. You’re probably right, of course, but I can’t help thinking there’s another word for it I heard sometime.

good – ’cause i am still seein’ red…(-;

I changed mine back to Yoda. Do you see that one as I do.

I thumbed up you and Foxbow. :grin:

no, i see the ball cap…must be something i need to clear, although i’ve cleared the cache already… :neutral:

Cliche that is annoying.

Winter storm warnings are in effect. :evil:

Relaxing now.
Just got done cleaning the Sea Lion tank at the local aquarium.
But I need a shower, kinda smell like sea lion stuff. :???:

i wonder where the word plumber comes from :?:

Let’see… uhhh?

Dumber than a sack of hammers.
or is it…
Hammer than a sack of dumbers! :lol:

okay, i cleared the cache AGAIN, plus unchecked “Preserver Favorite Website Data” – i think that probably was the problem; now i have Yoda & can almost read my cap…(-;

This is what I see Tom.

http://i41.tinypic.com/29zpp1j.jpg

yo

Hey Warren, how was Christmas? Fine I hope for you and your family. I hope you got all you wanted for Christmas. I did and then some. My son in law gave me a real Colt Navy Arms 44 caliber ball and cap revolver. Man was I over whelmed with feelings over the gift. I had one just like it when I was younger and lost it to the MPs on Fort Bragg for CCW. I could have gotten it back in 6 months but they say they lost it. I was to young to know to file any kind of paper work to make them replace it, if you can get the military to replace anything to a civilian. Hope You have a good New Year. :wink:

http://z.about.com/d/militaryhistory/1/0/E/-/-/-/ColtNavy.jpg

Word Revolt :idea:

Hey Capman911, Wow, what a gift! Yes, I had a good time and got some unexpected gifts. Good hearing from you. Soon the TA’s will be a small army but I don’t that you’ll need that pistol. I think that it’s a good idea that you mentioned earlier about James becoming a TA. Looks like he knows quite a bit about computers. Thinking about cliches I went back a few lessons and at the lesson- “Dick short for Richard and detective” Dez had a link to a vid that was funny. Che said that it was punny. I followed up with some cliches. Maybe Marina could use the word “pun” for a lesson.

They use to say “Another day another dollar” but now it’s more like
“Another day another fifty cents” :mrgreen:

Go to the top and do a word request for pun in bold letters. That way she is bound to see it. :smile:

It’s a shame isn’t it Rocky. We started out free and ended up like a communist country, sort of.

Funny dog video from Hungry Doggie Christmas

ho

See if this site helps you find what you are looking for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loan_words

where does the word “nike” come from? =]

where does the word “nike” come from? =]
thanks

:twisted: Hi, Marina, well, with that accent of yours I have a nice tonguebreaker for you: What does “supercalifragilisticexpialidocious” mean? Just a hint: Julie Andrews never had a problem with the pronounciation of it – I’d still like to know what it means, though…

ho & a bottle of rum :mrgreen:

is there interest on loan words?… :cool:

Marina covered that word here: http://www.hotforwords.com/2007/11/16/supercalifragilisticexpialidocious/

I know that is what my house is like when I am gone. My dog never sleeps on the couch, but the couch is somehow covered in dog hair. :?: :roll:

no, but “i lust you” is… :cool:

Dogs get real smart when something is in their benefit

{ and sneaky, they are capable of long term plotting }

H/w: I try to not use cliches. Similarly to stereotypes, they often do not say what I mean, or the meaning gets lost.

Greek godess of victory. It’s also the origin of the names nicole and nicholas.

the word nike is the greek for victory

Gotta love that Marina.

where dose the word guitar come from and where dose the word banjo come from

word request: I second Warren on pun

There’s an old aphorism: “You become what you despise.”

Also: “Freedom isn’t free.”

Here’s the new version of Jefferson’s saying: “The tree of liberty must, from time to time, be fertilized by the spilled Lattes and Cappuccinos of tyrants and patriots.”

Right tomorrow I am going to work on this

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IB-BlIb4ylE&feature=related

It’s scary. I hope I can do it. If I can my vid will be awesome

Clichés are psychic tatoos painted inside one’s brain. Every brain has its clichés, just like every engine has its red zone, just like every rose has its thorns.

Sometimes, though, the plain truth is exposed, all naked, and lots of clichés are, all of a sudden, smashed to bits.

OK, ok…I’m late for class – Sorry, from time to time, I must buy groceries. I am addicted to food, so much so that I feel that if I don’t get some food every day, I feel like I might die. :roll:

Thanks for the lesson and the mention – Must have been on a mission for CaptainJack when I requested it! :lol:

Homework: {thinking… OK!}

Common cliches I can think of:

“Have a nice day.”
“Word request: fuck. Is it an acronym?”
“Would you like fries with that order, sir?”
“May I see your ID?”
“I don’t mean to interrupt, but…” (followed by an inevitable interruption)

“Kiss me again, Fianchetto, PLEASE!!”…no wait… I LIKE that one! :mrgreen:

Marina, I just noticed something. You always tell us to ‘be good’, but you’ve never explained the origin of ‘good’ yet. Maybe you can do it in one video together with ‘bad’?

Tattoos are permanent. Would you say cliches are more of a shortcut? Someone else has already said it colorfuly, so we just plagiarize them. I do agree that cliches often conceal the truth; if I speak in my own words, then you will gain a better understanding of what I am saying. If I continually use cliches, then I am suppressing and concealing my independent thought.

Can we also say the same for someone who repeatedly quotes historical figures or scripture? I will often reference another’s work to corroborate my own thought, or to lay a foundation for an independent thought. I get annoyed, though, at someone who will repeatedly quote scripture to answer questions. That tells me that they no longer (if they ever had) have their own thoughts on the subject.

Indoctrination is not education :roll:

Marina,

Please don’t become so Americanized that you adopt that accent.

Is the snow deep enough for you?
Is it cold enough for you?
Is it hot enough for you?
Can you make the radio any louder?
Do you want fries with that?
We need to raise taxes.
Lose some weight.

And the best of all…
IT’S FOR THE CHILDREN!!!

“Loan words” are often used to reveal common history. Clichés often emphasizes their differences. -agree :?:

@jindai: borrowed word (borrowing)?

Homework:
I get this one from a guy at work “I don’t want to nitpick, but…”
“Crazy weather we are having!”
“Burr it’s cold out side.”
“How about these gas prices!”
“When are you going to shave?” (when I feel like it)

Chairman Mao would be most displeased with your thought-crime, comrade. Is that your final answer? :mrgreen:

Some help for your addiction: If you drink enough coffee and smoke enough cigarettes, you can get by on one meal a day.

Oh no. I will never have a final answer!!!!!!!! :!: :!:

LOL! actually I thought your post quite astute. Thanks! :cool:

Dear Marina,
Are we going to get New Years kisses from you?

Will Mountain Dew and crack cocaine serve as adequate substitutes? :mrgreen:

I prefer “More hammered than a sack of nails”

[Cool Talk on Subject: Cultural Cliches]

Mtn. Dew and Pop-tarts. If you use that other stuff, people start talking.

more nailed than a sack of 4x2s

crack kills

Pop-tarts. :mrgreen: Hmmmm… like [THIS?]

WORD REQUEST: PREGNANT / PREGNANCY

thanks :wink:

Tatoos can be removed if you cut deep enough through the skin. Or if you burn it.

Clichés are definitely a cut, a synaptic channel running through a group of neurons in the brain. And yes, I agree too, they often conceal the truth. I think clichés are, sometimes very skillfully, used to influence other people.

My guess is that you too sometimes need to conceal your independant thinking process behind clichés, scriptures, “clothes”, historical quotes or some kind of thought stopper (let’s call it education or social ethics), as some thoughts are just newborn ideas, perhaps not mature enough, or not verified and acceptable at all. Otherwise, you could sound like a gross and uneducated individual.

Addicted to food, eh? That’s an interesting one… :cool:

That was great, Fianchetto. A whole bunch of history, sociology, psychology, and Chinese food in 15 minutes!

It took me few seconds… clever. :roll:

Wow!!! Thank you Marina for doing that word. For a minute there, I didn’t recognize your new TA. I alwasy thought he was a horse. OK, this is where aLx comes in and fills in the rest. :lol:
You are too funny Marina. I love it!!!
I laughed so hard, I fell of my high horse. :lol:

1: let me know if you get an email notification of this reply.. as I’m replying through the dashboard.

2: what border color do you want?

3: my pleasure :-)

reply to myself.

reply to self from front end

email notifications do not work from the dashboard.. note to self :-)

Hey, Marina, the edit works great.
The edit box disappears on its own. Yeah!!!

Any of your chosing. Green, dark green, violet.
Solid border – like me :-)

Perhaps some would consider the fledgling idea to be gross and uneducated, but not all. Brainstorming requires the lack of filtering; all ideas go on the board. We see this when we watch House. Sure, House belittles the stupid ideas, but he still listens to them. Many people feel free to explore new ideas on this site, too. That is, perhaps, the most appealing part of this site, to me at least. I can throw out an idea, and we will bounce it around like a beach ball. Sometimes we get a good one, others just kind of flop and fizzle, dying a quick and painless death. I do not have to worry, though, about looking like an idiot and being chastised for it. When I look like an idiot, Che will cook a burrito, Bob will bring some funky side dish, and we have a good laugh.

Marina,
I Did received an email doing a Reply to myself.
I have Not received an email from your reply to me. :sad:

Word Request: Ditto

Cool. :cool: Now I have more information to spread to friends, family, and coworkers. :grin:

Marina did you cut off the ability for us to reply to a comment from the Dashboard also?

OK, now you know the secret, Why you still here? GO WIN THE FRIGGIN LOTTERY! :mrgreen:

Since Marina is my first YouTube friend, I thought it a propo to make my first vid a word request. Check it out [Here] if you haven’t already – 10 more views to 100 :cool:
ENJOY!! :grin:

“Plumber” comes from plumbum, the Latin word for lead, of which Roman plumbing was made. If you look up lead in the periodic table, the symbol is Pb. So a plumber was originally a plum-bum. :cool:

It’s true, I tell you. (Oh wait…that line is for when we’re really “spinning a yarn”!) :mrgreen:

Yeah, you use these loan words to show off your savoire-faire. If you don’t understand them, you look like a dummkopf. :lol:

Word/cliche Request – “Shake a stick at”

e.g. Marina has more requested words than you can 'shake a stick at'.

Ohhh, Oh, I see one too many of those symbols there. I must have counted 15 of those little buggers.

Did you intentionally allow comments in the HTML practice page to appear in the Recent Comments column?

OK, cliche is a loan word from French. How about some Russian ones? Glasnost and tovarishch come to mind.

Attention Russian students
Your daily Russian lesson: Если В Сердце Живет Любовь (If Love Lives in the Heart)
Iulia’s an amazing young woman to be dancing half-dressed in the snow like that. She reminds me of me. :grin:

Oh yea, ***Word Request: “Heart”***
What’s the original Indo-European word for “heart”, and how did it mutate into such variations as Spanish “corazon”, English “heart”, German “Hertz”, Welsh “calon”, and Russian “Сердце” :?:

huh? not I – all of my posts on that focal point omit unsaid glyph of topical import. :grin:

Thanks to all who pushed me over 100! BTW Pkarl and Smokey account for 1.3% (each) of the views! Thanks!

Hey Evan, thanks for that video. I like it.
Perfect timing for your word request, ♥ as the stores should all be filling their shelves with ♥Valentine♥ stuff by now.

Major :lol: :lol:
I had to modify my words so I wouldn’t look as a hypocritical human.

Variation on a cliche to emphasize futility:
You can drag a dead horse to water but you can’t make him drink.

In reading your new name, I was a bit puzzled. I know your not a female dog so I had to look it up.

-C & P- Hey, at least I admit it.

bitch (bch)
n.
1. A female canine animal, especially a dog. (ed. female foxes & wolfs are also called bitches. Right?)
2. Offensive
a. A woman considered to be spiteful or overbearing.
b. A lewd woman.
c. A man considered to be weak or contemptible.
3. Slang A complaint.
4. Slang Something very unpleasant or difficult.
v. bitched, bitch·ing, bitch·es Slang
v.intr.
To complain; grumble.
v.tr.
To botch; bungle. Often used with up.

I’m guessing here. Would C be the definition that suits you? :razz: Hope not. Because I see the weak as Dinner. :twisted: * (howls like a hunger wolf)

Just kidding with you James. :razz:

ok I was wondering where some of these clichés came from such as “cat out of the bag” or “I’ll be a monkey’s uncle.”

Think nothing of it. <— Yippeee!, no verboten glyphs.

Good job, mi amigo! And Thanks again!

Why is a ten dollar bill called a sawbuck?

Eric M

Hey, that’s what he said.
Well, almost.
In Marina’s 2nd appearance on O’Reilly,
he said; “You gotta Love her”
I thought that was a precious moment.

I just checked out one of the add sites on here about buying a refurbished Mac. A refurbished Mac is $1900.00. Man I could by three or 4 pcs at that price maybe more. With the same hardware on the inside. It would have to last for 10 years at that price. :lol:

That’s a good looking pistol Mike is that the pietta 1851 colt where you can put a stock on it to

It has Fllipietta Made in Italy on the right but doesn’t list 1851.

:lol: :lol: :lol: []‘-’-][‘-”

[[*[} :grin: :roll: <a href=”http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QxGl7OtSPQo” g66d n5ght

ROFLOL, James! Thanks for the laugh! :lol:

Like looking for a “needle in a haystack”?

Slang term for the U.S. ten dollar paper currency. The slang is derived from the Roman numeral for ten, “X”. The “X” looks like the shape of a sawbuck, a device used to hold wood in place for sawing it into pieces.

source:
sawbuck

WORD REQUEST: Chit-Chat

BTW, Love the Show!!!

I’ll second that one with the suggestion that it may have originated from ‘bucking’ logs into fireplace lengths prior to splitting, whereby the log to be ‘bucked’ is leaned across another, lifting it to a more comfortable working height. Viewed from the position of one doing the bucking, would look a bit like:

/o

resembling the number 10.

To be sure, Our Dear Teacher can verify or debunk our theories! :grin:

150.000.000 views, oh dear!
Congratulations are in order! :D

Don’t cry over spilt milk. First of all that was squirted out and second of all it’s consistency is that of tapioca pudding and thirdly those tears you see are tears of joy :wink:

Source:
Personal experience, having bucked and split many logs for my fireplace. :grin:

I have a book their was a 1851 and 1861 the 51 had brass on it so yours is probably a 1861 nice gun :lol:

What? Mayonaise from a squeeze bottle. Fixing a sandwich. Teared up some coz of those chopped onions and was happy about having pumpernickel bread for my sandwich.

I just looked at the butt of the grip and it does have a notch for something to fit into it like a butt stock. It does have the brass on it also.

A stock would be nice to have with it if you was hunting

How about DIRT POOR AND FILTHY RICH Ether way your dirty :lol:

:eek: Money horders enjoy that filthy rich & money is the root of all evil talk keeps the masses impoverished

:mrgreen: back when i was your age, boy!!!! :mrgreen:
hey marina i have an idea, when you start selling your new book, why dont you make some bumper stickers and who ever buys a book they get three free “HOT FOR WORDS” bumper stickers. :wink: because when they see my calendar at work they flip and they ask me who is that beautiful girl, then i explain to them that your a philologist. and they say “What the hell is that” well if you have stickers we can pass around the city well VUALAHH!!!! :wink: YOUR THE BEST, BEAUTIFUL PRINCESS :mrgreen: P.S. i voted for you, youll always be the hottest geek for me babydoll :mrgreen:

can anyone tell me the sayings that Marina is giving at the beginning of this video? the only things i caught are “easier said than done” “face the music”.

and “needle in a haystack”

h/w: what goes around comes around, and this one u wont kno cuz its english creole: if the cap fit you draw the string

Hitoshi :arrow:

“Better late than never” “Up the creek without a Paddle”

arigatougozaumasita :grin: Che Volay!

there sure are many new Marinas added on The Sexiest Geek of 2008 contest, have you noticed? You can give her as many as 100 votes at once! :)
Take the time to do so, and as a reward you might have a very happy and proud teacher for the entire year to come. :D
Here is the link :
- http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/12/every-geeks-a-l.html -

The cliche I’m feeling right now “Damned if I do, damned if I don’t!”

Well damned if you don’t finish eating your peas, there are starving children in Africa, waste not want not, etc.

When my parents told me to clean my plate I knew cleaning your plate had a double entendre meaning to it. I had to finish eating everything on my plate and then afterwards I got to do the dishes and clean plates again :lol:

I helped push your count over 200, I hope you don’t mind :D

Testing nested linking on you cap.

HI Marina could you please do the origin of the phrase FUNNY BONE I think it is so-post to be in your elbow tickle my funny bone pretty Marina :lol: :lol:

That is “So Cliche”

Hi,

I’d like to know more about the history behind the word Sapphic. I know it comes from the Greek poet Sappho, but who was this person? I’d also like to know what the proper prefix is to create the antonym of this word. Is it proper to say asapphic?

Yes, intelligence in indeed sexy. :grin:

Marina This was your second comment on this topic. :smile: :smile:

Homework: A bird in hand is better than two in the bush.
Checkout this cool video of MAC vs PC transformer style
Very well done. :shock:

Thats quite a variation

HI Roland i would be interested in getting about two acres of land in pahrump do you Handel stuff like that or just houses :?:

lol

E-phobe! :wink:

I’m too quick without the pedal/petal (I have never heard of this one before.)

I’m on my fifth go ’round :mrgreen:
I hit it once everytime I restart my browser.
heh heh :twisted:

Homework: break a leg, start off on a clean slate!

could you do the origin of why a highway is sometimes called a parkway and why a driveway is called what it is? i think someone got it mixed up a long time ago. :wink:

Interesting comment on ethnicity. Ms. Lee’s accent, body language, and sense of humor immediately mark her as American. I’d probably feel more immediate rapport with her in person than with Marina, despite the fact I was born blond.

Excellent post Marina.

Much ado about nothing.

People attack the strongest in others, that which they fear the most in themselves. :evil:

A neutron walks into a bar and orders a drink. “How much?” he asks.
“For you — no charge!”
(From HFW “Bar” video.) :lol:

Huh? I’m like the French carpenter who ran out of nails; I haven’t a clous. :lol:

Once when I was working on a remodel project, nailing siding on an apartment building, I noticed a co-worker tossing away approximately every other nail he pulled out of his nail belt.
Foreman came along and asked, “What the hell are you doing?”
“Half these nails have the points on the wrong end,” he replied.
“Don’t throw them out,” advised the foreman, “you can use them on the other side of the building!” :roll:

Twisted! :shock:

Oh, I forgot, The lady, me thinks, doth protest to much.

Hello Marina,
Word Suggestions: Proverb, Pun, Prose, True, Truth, False, Lie,
Trophy, Statue, Poem, Lyric.
HW: That does the trick, Waste of breath;
Do as I say not as I do; Better late than never.
Thank you.

“Sleep tight and don’t let the bed bugs bite”

Early to bed, early to rise.

Yeah, Marina’s a “Lyubov,” all right! :grin:

Originally Spanish, short for “Maria Juana” (j pronounced like English h), or “Mary Jane” (which was a ’60s slang term for the drug.)

Yield, It’s more fun. Yield dammit, its more fun.

Take your pick

The lead poisoning from their plumbing caused impaired tasting. That’s why Italians heavily spiced their food.

Much ado about nothing.
Sometimes thats not true for some.

Not if they’re shootin’ at yah.

:arrow: And some times truth is stranger than fiction.

Hmmm. I wonder what “…he can show you any Real Estate listing you are interested in.” really means? It’s a puzzlement. :roll:

Grandma always said it was the cover the taste of their feet flavored wine.

News: Scientist measures sky falling rate at zero.

Timothy 6:10 (King James Version):. “For the love of money is the root of all evil….” Evil requires will; money itself is just paper and has no will of its own.

Sorry to wax philosophical on you, but your philosophical looked a little dull. :grin:

Hi PD, thanks for that video selection.
That was a great video. Had me on the edge of my seat.

Marina, thank you for the green border.
I love ♥ it.

It looks like there are a lots of new fixes.
The edit box disappears on its own and it looks like the initial login presents the comment box w/o having to do a page refresh. Great work.

More loan words:
The man leaving on vacation made a faux pas when he said “Bon voyage!” to his friends staying home. :lol:

Why can’t the anglophobes of the world accept the fait accompli that English is now the global lingua franca? :mrgreen:

Cliches:
Flaxen hair
Eyes like stars
Teeth like pearls
Ruby lips
Rosy cheeks
Kisses sweet as wine

Gee, I can think of a lot of them, just looking at you! :razz:

Do itashimashite! :grin:

OOOH, here’s an idea, since Warren and bsomebody requested “pun”:
Puns based on cliches!

Like the time when I was on a beach hike, and threw a creosote-treated piece of driftwood on the fire.
“Ouch! that’s hot!” shouted the board.
“Good Lord! did you hear that!?” I exclaimed.
“Yep,” said my hiking partner, “the oily board gets too warm!” :mrgreen:

Everybody must be clichéd out?

Sometimes, at first blush, it looks like that some clichés are really another type of expression, such as an idiom or euphemism. Sometimes, I have to really think hard about whether an expression is a cliché or an idiom. I suppose, some idioms and euphemisms can become clichés as well.

Here are the rules for knowning which type of expression is which. A cliché is phrase so over-used that it almost has no meaning, like “think outside the box”.

An idiom is a phrase composed of words that do not literally indicate its meaning, such as “I’m in a pickle”.

A euphemism is a way of substituting words to soften or otherwise alter the reality or perception of a certain condition. Someone might say, “between jobs” instead of just saying “unemployed”.

Do you sometimes get the feeling we are just one big walking cliché? I wonder if anyone is going to start a forum thread where you can only use clichés?

Hey Evan, that’s funny. We posted at the same time about a similar concept where a cliché exists in another type of expression or idea.

Thanks for sharing that video. Very :cool:

So did you or didn’t you?

More homework:
That’s the way the cookie crumbles
Win some lose some
Same shit different day
Cool beans
When the shit hits the fan
Early bird catches the worm
Can’t have your cake and eat it too
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it (or in the government If it ain’t broke fix it till it is)

Or as the judge said to the bigamist:
“You can’t have your Kate and Edith, too!” :mrgreen:

Hello nighteye,
That is an excellent request; the origin of good and what does it mean. Not everyone agrees on it’s meaning so there is a subjective component to it. I have been thinking about that word also.

Marina may have seen your comment, and in case that she didn’t register the comment as a request, I recommend posting the request again in this format:

Word Request: good
Credit goes to nighteye’s comment above.

Now if only someone can come up with a euphemism for an idiomatic cliche… :idea:
“like flies on fecal matter” covers two out of three.

Doesn’t matter if your rich or poor as long as you have money :smile:

you need to get HELLP

James if you where in Moderation mode your post would have never appeared as it just did. Are you hacking the servers again? :mrgreen:

not sure about the spelling it’s been awhile since I was in Germany but here’s one:

Mach niech on da pom firez

“It doesn’t matter about the french fries”

LOL. That makes me want to make a Origin Request: ‘Son of a Gun’. I’ve done my research on this one, so I have a good idea of its etymology.

kickingbassguitar says:
and some times truth is stranger than fiction.

and sometimes truth is Much ado about mammonas

I beg that I might be allowed to disagree, Your Royal TA-ship. If literalality is the test of a cliché, then “think outside the box” is not apt; it doesn’t literally refer to the relationship of thinking and the outside of a cardboard container. Nor do I agree that clichés have no meaning; if they did not, they would not be useful in communication and so would not become clichés. I propose a different distinction.

An idiom’s use does not peak; it is an expression that everyone uses without regard to its popularity. A cliché peaks; it is an expression that many once used because it was popular, but some now avoid because it is no longer popular.

How about “Don’t take any wooden nickles.”

Hey CK, did you get on your knees and bow?
Just kidding :lol:

Your disagreement is accepted. You make some interesting points that are worthy of consideration.

Sometimes in my own way of defining things, I use anchor words that are not as rigorous as you suggested. Good points to remember.

I want to suggest the word “cigarettes”. Most people are familiar with the word but some people dont know what the true history is.
I heard some before but im not sure what the word true meaning is.

Excellent point, Mike, actions can be clichés too.

[An I-phobe can be found here!] :cool:

:cool: Thanks! Thanks also for your post on (un)said topic! :grin:

Would that be like the time a rope walked into a bar and requested a beer?
The bartender asked if he were a rope as they did not serve ropes at that bar…
The rope tangled himself up, messed up his ends and exclaimed…
“No, I am a frayed knot.”

Hey, I got a Rope Frayed at one end ,the other end afraid of nothing

Whereas the Crack is {cliché approaching} you guessed it Toxic.

Marina, Whats the skinny on the word ‘skinny’? My dad used to be a newspaper reporter and he would say to his boss, “I’ll go talk to Richard Petty and get the skinny on that ruling!”

Origin Request: Skinny

Marina, You’ve labeled the thumbnail for this video Cliché, yes you are the Cliché for your type of that I know personally at least three of a more than casual but less than intimate type. But your the only that has gotten put the clouds into the eyes by your own doings. So I would call that unique.

That was a very thought provoking lesson, Marina. I realise that you can’t explore all the nuances in a short video and that this comments section and the forum are for expanding on the theme and developing a deeper understanding of the subject.
What I would like to discuss is, at what point does an expression or saying become a cliché? Your definition of something which is used over and over again doesn’t seem to be adequate.
Would you say that “Intelligence is sexy” “another mystery solved by your trusty hotforwords” “be good” “I’ll see you all very soon” are clichés, or are they “catchwords”, a successful formula for maintaining a theme throughout your products?
What about “it’s true, I tell you” which Campkohler uses?
I suggest that these are just catchwords when used by one person as a trademark. When I and Evan Owen start to copy and use them, they become “Buzzwords”, the latest cool expression to use, and finally, when everyone is using them without thinking about what they mean, they achieve the dubious status of a cliché.
I believe that clichés are so popular because their use in conversation buys us thinking time, allowing our brains a chance to catch up with our mouths, by using an expression which is so familiar that it slides off the tongue without requiring any conscious effort. However, the same could be said of the hesitation sounds, “er” and “umm”; do they count as clichés? I don’t think so, so a further requirement is introduced for a cliché to be considered a cliché.
What do other people think?

2 :cool:

“Needle in a paycheck.”
…. Hmm, I like it. I wonder how I could apply it ….
:lol:

I think you hit the nail on the head… well, not exactly. I agree with your evolutionary theory of “catchphrase” (I like “hook”) to “cliche.” I have a different opinion on the usefullness of cliches. You said that a person who has used a cliche has conserved energy, allotted more time to think. Do you not often hear someone who use cliches or quotes verbatim often does so instead of thinking? That is the root of my problem with many of these pre-fabbed verbages: cliches, euphamisms, generalizaitions, idioms, oxymorons, and even overuse of quotations (historical or sacred). Too often people do not say what he or she means, and then gets upset when their audience does not hear what the sayer says he or she said that he or she meant to say … huh?

{Sounds of metal squealing and crunching, sparks fly as a blue smoke fills the air. It looks like somebody has had a wrench thrown in a cog.} :roll:

Umm … FianchEtto?

Wow. I like my new video effects

Accidental laser shoots out my head at the end.

I know you believe you understand what you think I said but I’m not convinced that you realize that what you heard was not what I meant, although obviously, at the end of the day, when all is said and done, and the fat lady has stopped singing and they think it’s all over, actually, it will all come out in the wash, as long as no-one throws the baby out with the bathwater or leaves any mud sticking to the wall or shit on the fan … err .. umm … I ‘ve actually forgotten what I was going to say … :???:

Thanks, PD!! That was awesome!

thanks, Bob! ROFLMAO!

ummm … oops! :oops:

She won’t even be able to credit me for my video request!

The scary part is – I had to read it only once, and I followed you completely. :neutral:

The HFW videos seem to be moving up the YT ‘most viewed today’ more rapidly than in the past.

Do the same rules for new lessons still apply? i.e. the #24 position

That reminds me – for those in the happs, mijj released a new vid last week. He keeps getting more complex with each new vid. I think it is really cool to watch them progress.

Change your name to Bob :grin:

That is not important. Get your priorities straight, man! Has no one else noticed the missing bonsai? What is going on here? ARE YOU ALL MAD?!

The bonsai is being used as a Christmas tree.

Good one.

You mean like, “wine-dark sea”? :cool:

The bonsai is visiting it’s cousin, Bondai Beach, as shown in this picture.

That is exactly why Alex.. too msany links (smileys included) and it gets marked as spam.

What are people talking about their comments not being nested???? Please help me understand… I see conversations going on here with nested replies.

If you suddenly lost your ability to be able to reply to comments or something, please let me know as I have not intentionally changed ANYTHING!!!

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Or with an especially pretty lady, a bird in the bush is worth two in the hand. :shock: :oops:

Sorry, I just can’t stop myself sometimes. :lol: :mrgreen:

My videos are moving very quickly right now due to the holidays I guess… so in this instance I am spacing them out to about the same time of day.

Just don’t use them on me!!!

It was happening last night. If you look at the very bottom of the page, you will see that the replies are posted as new posts. I guess it fixed itself after that; the forum fairies came out last night.

Hi Marina! I’m curious of the origin of the french-based word “Raconteur”.
Please help!

Thankyou xXx

Great idea, Che! Brilliant! Why didn’t I think of that? :mrgreen:

“Fell off the wagon”
Hmmm, I was going to give up hanging out here so much…but I’ve left 20 comments, last one last night at 12:28, first one this AM at 6:41…I guess I really “fell off the wagon.” Hey PK, is that a euphemism, a cliche, or an idiom?

I would say that since cliché and stereotype come from similar sources.. and both imply repetitive use with no originality… and both words are used as in a negative way.

Stereotypes are bad and saying “oh, that is so cliché” is saying to the person that they could have used a better example (using more thought, as you say)…

Whereas, slogans or catchphrase are phrases that people identify with companies or people… but that people seem to like.. like “I’ll be back” by Arnold S…. or “Just do it” by Nike… but if Arnold S. used “I’ll be back” in every movie.. his catchphrase would become cliché, I guess.

Let’s just agree to disagree :-)

Доброй утро Марина,
Just check the posting times on some of these comments. We’re probably too pie-eyed and of questionable sobriety to know what we’re doing. :oops: :mrgreen:

ATTENTION BREAKFAST CLUB: See that? M is denying all knowledge of the missing bonsai. The next thing you know, she will be issuing a statement saying she never had a bonsai. This smacks of Area 51, Bigfoot, and the grassy knoll. Che, muster the conspiracy theorists. We must mobilize. This means WAR!

While in Mexico I found out that the Mexican culture has their own cliches, the wording is different but the meanings are equivalent to what we use in the US.

I’m certain all cultures have cliches of equal meaning.

“Off the wagon”

Gee Marina, you’re busier than a one arm paper hanger :mrgreen:

Hello, i want to know more about the word “concierge”.
i don’t even know how to pronounce it right.
please help?
Thanks!

You mean the potted stick thingy, it was explained once before, a bamboo shoot? an orchard?….. :???:

Here is what happened. I copied and pasted all the smilies ( I wanted too see if the displayed themselves as links (they didn’t)) I think the website thought it was spam so it said my comment was awaiting moderation. But somehow people could reply. But the cool thing is. There is now a fight for the last first comment! So I think it was me… Sorry.

e.g.

Burn your bridges – US
Burn your ships – Sweden

The cat’s whiskers – England
The bee’s knees – US

Just remember, you heard it here first. And you can quote me on that ?;>

Or a bird without a bush is worth two with a bush. :shock:

:twisted: See what you’ve started Evan. :lol:

Okay, I have the smoking gun. Here it is. I have proof of the missing bonsai.

I thought it was
“you can get two birds stoned in one bush”

See. I told you it was James’ fault! :twisted:

Comme ci, comme ̤a РFrench
(Come-see-come-saw)
.
Like this, like that – English :mrgreen:

(sigh) yes, it’s an orchid. :mrgreen:
When I was asked to send a picture to for the TA post,
I sent Captain Jack a picture of what a blooming orchid
in the background is SUPPOSED to look like :cool:

Test comment to test new email notification.

Reply to see if it works.

hmm.. doesn’t seem to work…

:grin: If at first you don’t suceed…

Breakfast club or not…I agree with bsomebody, “This means war !”

No fight – I win :mrgreen:

melika.. do you get a notification of this reply?

Reply the tires :smile:

“Darth” James? LOL!
Any luck debuggin’ de mail?
(chide chide) :mrgreen:

YAY REPLIES ARE BACK!

Hot water is a blessing, soul waste some :lol: :lol: :lol:

{leonard slips out the back door with a burrito in his pocket and a cup of coffee in his teeth.} :roll:

Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey* – England
Colder than a well diggers ass – US

Accidentally stumbled on the origin of this phrase :

An old naval expression. Cast iron cannon balls were stacked in pyramids on shallow brass trays called monkeys. When the temperature got really cold, the thermal expansion between the cast iron and the brass was such that the balls rolled off.
(ClicheSite.com)

Quote
“The difference between ‘involvement’ and ‘commitment’ is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was ‘involved’ – the pig was ‘committed’.” – unknown from the HOTfORwoRds site :cry:

Am I the only one who sees the seriousness of this situation?! The bonsai, circled in red. He was a part of us, one of the guys. He shared our thoughts, our dreams; now he is gone. M has done something to Big Red (that’s what I called him during my reflective times in detenton), and nobody cares. Nobody even noticed. Oh! Shame! Shame on you all!

If Marina is reading…the reply informed my mail :roll: :lol: :shock:

What you refer to as a catch phrase is more like a “sound bite”. When Eek the Cat says “Kumbaya! It never hurts to help”, that’s more fitting of the description for a catch phrase. This is because only Eek says that and it is unique to his character. “Subscribe to my channel” et al, are more like sound bites as they are in use by the multitudes, including Marina :mrgreen:

:lol: The unknowing quoting the unknown? That’s funny. :grin:

Huzzah! Success! :cool:
Yes – “Marina has replied”
Good job!

Would ‘you’re never too old to learn’ be a cliche? Today it certainly applies to me, as I become 2.5 times our beautiful teacher’s age. What a wonderful personality! An early subscriber asked that you ‘don’t forget us when you become famous’, and I would like to echo that wish on this milestone for me.

Oh! The bonsai… sorry ’bout that :mrgreen:
Gorby likes to “water” the plants…
I was able to save some of the sweet basil
and other herbs by changing the dirt.
I wouldn’t recommend using them to cook
with, for awhile… might taste “funny”.
The bonsai wasn’t getting enough light, so
it has a new location to catch more rays.
“Big Red” is safe and tucky-tuck, so don’t worry :grin:

HI
Can you tell me something about the word (pumpernickel)
as in bread thank you
Stephen

I’m glad you are off the wagon, I enjoy your comments. Thanks Evan Owen…I saw this band from LA and they kept referring to stereo-typing…Red Aunts

You can lead a horse to water… but, you can’t make him do the backstroke! :shock:

It makes kvass

You can lead a horticulture…

At this extremely late stage of the game, I demand we demand proof! Post a picture of Big Red with today’s issue of the L.A. Times or we will be forced to go public.

Wondered where the word Marijuana came from if the plant is called Canibus????

If a ships carries cargo, and a truck carries shipments, then can i bus take you on a trip?

Wake up and smell the coffee! I like this cliche. :smile:

Please add the word, “niggardly,” to your list.

Hey RL1, check out my “RL” :mrgreen:

ok does this work a fraction of time shall reveal the answer.

… but you can’t make her think. :lol:

“cliches” The Powdered Milk of Conversations, does everyone “got milk” today?

Congratulations on your Septuagenary celebration. :smile:

Sorry – I only do requests :mrgreen:
Time to switch to decaf?

Big Red was confiscated by the SPCP (Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Plants)
Reason, endangering an endangered plant with an endearing little dog.

Dearest Marina :smile:

Yada,yada yada :!:
LMAOROTF..B.B.

Very nice… and only 24 pounds… decent. :smile:

Brian Eno – Needle In The Camel`s Eye

Why?

Give the Lady a cigar.

She and I

Are at the top of the alter

Over here

…but you will pay by the our

I have a dilemma, where should I go for my Bday this year. Page and I went here last year(VIP baby!) But this place looks cool , I’ve been there too. :mrgreen: Or here? :cool:

Poly Styrene – oh bondage, up yours @LMHR”

Me too

I request the word Epiphany. If you decide to investigate, I really suggest you do it until the 6th of January. :D

but we could make a nice stew.

“The difference between ‘involvement’ and ‘commitment’ is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was ‘involved’ – the pig was ‘committed’.”
Would anyone care to elaborate? :-s

St. Petersburg Ska-Jazz Review : Too Good To Be True Russian band

What do you think of my new channel design. The 4 pics in the background took me about 5 hours to make :???:

Let The Cat Out The Bag Game of HotForWords

hey hotforwords. i’d like to request to word “holy”

i read this in a comment:

“One more thing…it’s almost laughable how obvious it is. Where do you think the word “Holy” comes from? Well, I’ll tell you. It comes from the latin word “Helio”. Now, what does “Helio Biblio” mean in latin? It means “Sun Book.” Holy Bible = Sun Book, or “Book of the Sun”. It’s right on the fucking cover, people! Christianity is nothing more than a sun-worshipper cult, and they don’t even know it!”

and then this…

“Wrong. The origin of the word “holy” comes from the 11th Century Old High German “hulis” and Old English “holegn” meaning “Holly” as in Holly Tree, considered a sacred plant to both pre-Christian Celtic and Roman worship.”

which one is it?

how about “SUNday”

hmm…

Hi Marina, can you please explain to me the origin and true meaning of the word “Melancholy”? It seems very interesting to me as I learned it in English class not too long ago.

thanks!

The chicken was involved in the preparation by supplying the eggs, but the pig was committed because it gave it’s life to supply the bacon/ham.

“Here was the Reply box” Lets make new comments here its more applicable other than “Make new comments at the top.” :neutral: :neutral:

It was here however now its there. :???: :???:
:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:

Smart dogs.

holy

That was pretty awesome. The music kinda sounded like it was from Terminator.

short: Involvement = work related & internal condition
Commitment = “organization loyalty” :smile:

They would rather you pay by the inch

holy (correct link)

How cliché :lol:

Edit:
I knew somebody important would start
that cliché thread in the forum. ;-)

Honestly, I’m kinda tired of seeing the long listed of submitted entries by Marina’s obsessed fans. It would be nice if somebody else were to win this year for a change. (Not Phil DeFranco) :mrgreen:

I don’t fear change, nor competition.
Though I do feel that a contradiction
Will occur, if this year’s occasion,
Won’t grant Marina recidivism!

There is no sexier geek in the contest,
Other than Marina, who is the best! :D

“they will all gather, like flies on fecal matter” 3/3

Time for a nap.

Good evening

@Bob: not sure I get this one. It reminds me of Marina’s “depilation” lesson. :shock:

test

Two birds are worth more than a stoned Bush. :sad:

what do you mean by, “adopted in total”?

could be a loan word, could be a foreign word.

I received that one Marina

Oh, you got it. :grin:

By “adopted in total” I mean that the word is taken from a language that is not English, and used in English unaltered. In essence, a French word spelled, accented and pronounced (usually) as it would be in French, but in an English sentence. Cliché is a very good example, Karaoke is another (although the spelling is from romaji, it still counts.)

Graphically, they’re very good :mrgreen:
The content leads to a few obvious questions… :neutral:
You might want to check your map and be sure
you’re on the right road, some paths lead to trouble.
My advice would be to learn from the mistakes of others.
You don’t have enough time in this life to make
them all yourself. Peace!

Huh? A new change to the comment box?
Jane says:

As busy as “A long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.”

What does the word “respect” mean? I know that “re” means “to do again” and “spect” can be found in the word “spectate”, so I’m thinking it means “to watch again”? It’s not making much sense to me, can you investigate?

What the ****

As bob said The chicken was involved in the preparation by supplying the eggs, but the pig was committed because it gave it’s life to supply the bacon/ham. However i think that egg might say it was plenty well committed also as it may have as well developed into a chicken.

Marina, Word Request: Incorporation

Did you know that an incorporation is treated the same as a person under the law, as a live entity, How can this be when its just words on paper? No eyes too see with, no ears too hear with, no blood to bleed with, so should an incorporation have the same rights that a natural flesh and bone entity enjoy?

REQUESTING THE WORD LATEXRUBBER AND WHY WE LOVE TO WEAR IT

Capman. Your default look worse than mine. I don’t think its appropriate to say what the mouth looks like.

Word Request: Incorporation
I’m very intresseted in this word so please investigate :mrgreen:

Requesting the word incorporation.
It would be very nice if you could explain me this word.

I would also like to know the origin of the word incorporation :smile:

And if not that, then a word I’ve been wondering about is: preliminary.

What is the origin of the pharse “Cold Turkey”?

When Hell freezes over :lol:
elliott

hey HoTFoRWOrds…
how does “MAKING OUT”
mean kissing?

John Lennon Cold Turkey

where does that word to YOU DIG come from and merry christmas laters….

Hi, Marina…I would like you to do a lesson on “perspicacious.” I’m a teacher and I love the way you do the etymology. Hey, there’s another good word for you, especially since you’re so good at it!

David

Requesting the word Aleatory

hello sweet Marina

I have a word request

I would like to know the origins of the word “salt”

it has something to do with the greek word “alas” that went on to the Romans – and as the Roman soldiers were paid with salt it became the english word “salt” and “salary”

interesting,right?

thank you!

if that word is unaltered (and fairly new), it’s a foreign word, not exactly a loan word.
cliché … well … i guess most people would say it’s already a loan word. i’d argue against that.
there are words in english used with diacritics although english doesn’t have them. to me that means that those words are not modified, or adapted, enough to be loan words. so, i’d see “cliché” (with accent aigu) as a foreign word.
as i said, you could argue about that. it’s probably the same question as, can planes fly, or can ships swim.

Nonchalantly, Fly #1 says to Fly#2: “Is this stool taken?”

heir_apparent she discusses salary and salt in this video
http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/12/22/salary/
“I don’t make enough too even pay attention”

stokesjrj1 Lubbock, Tx

thank you very much
I hadn’t noticed that… :oops:

Herz: (*kered-), *kerd-, *kerd-, *krd-, *kred-,
idg., Sb.: nhd. Herz
[diacritics omitted.]

–> german — indo-germanic dictionary.
–> english — indo-germanic dictionary.
–> indo-germanic dictionary.

Thank you Marina, that was a very interesting origin.

Well, since I’m damned either way, I did :twisted:

Warren sent me This Link

:mrgreen: Shout out to TA Pendantic Karl :!: What’s that thing on the é called(?) ampersan or something(?)