Forte

You say fort-ay, I say fort.. what the heck is going on???

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  • http://www.youtube.com/user/foxbow15 foxbow15

    I don’t even know wat fort(e) is:S

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    asdfghjkl;

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/foxbow15 foxbow15

    sit ups suck, crunches rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    1ST

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/foxbow15 foxbow15

    What did you just say?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    I am a bit like your brother then

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/foxbow15 foxbow15

    You couldn’t even install mac on your laptop :lol:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Because my laptop isn’t right for mac!!! jokes on you mr I-love-barbed-wire

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Really I would say forté but however you like it Marina is how i shall say

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Because you spend all your time trying to get number 1 and so you don’t get to see the lesson.

  • pig-in-a-poke

    Dear Teacher,

    One of the pronunciations is fort and another for-tay. If fort was correct, I would be disappointed! Touche! Say it, for-tay.

    Your Dear Student

  • yomero

    Who’s a lucky dog? Kobe are you a lucky dog? :?: :smile:

  • misguidedsoul.com

    Hey there Hot For Words! You sure are the The cat’s pajamas. Where did that saying come from

  • gregory g mcbride

    Marina,
    Your web guys are correct with the spelling FORTE; :idea:

    The :arrow: e is silent cause where it is used in the word!

    If I am not mistaken I would pronounce that E with a hyphen creating that :mrgreen: eiie into an :grin: aHH so FORTE’ would have to take the silent letter and say their is a :!: symbol here you need to use me and pronounce me correctly.

    Obviously we are not in France and the US Justice system is not a boring parliment where a free country gives you that choice cause I can be free as much as you.

    Although a group gathering with the lordship would probably be like a state legilators meeting.

    Greg

  • http://www.zenithmaritime.com/ CaptainJack

    Accept no imitations. :wink:

  • yomero

    It depends on what definition you’re using this word for. In this case fawr tey

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    haha.. that bit on the side that says the comments now says

    “James on Heroin Cough Syrup”

    I hope not..

  • my hot lover brett

    hi

  • seesixcm6

    франтовская Marina, I’ve been a subscriber for two full months, now. You’ve provided wonderful educational videos. I also see the comment boards certainly reveal the quality of character, both good and bad, of people who post remarks. There has been anger, foul language, and Internet bullying. It might be useful to post sites where such threats may be reported.
    For your homework, I checked two different sources, and they both use the two-syllable pronunciation first.
    From the Free online Dictionary:
    for·te 1 (fôrt, fôrt, frt)
    n.
    1. Something in which a person excels.
    2. The strong part of a sword blade, between the middle and the hilt.
    for·te
    From Answers.com:
    forte
    (fôr’tā’, fôrt, fōrt)
    So, your two-syllable pronunciation is right. So nice to see you exercise your thin, tiny waist!
    Your student who double-checked, seesixcm6

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    hi

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Secret code.. You wouldn’t understand.

  • http://www.rockyfrisco.com hotrocky

    Dictionary.com says it’s pronounced:[fawrt, fohrt or, for 1, fawr-tey].

  • yomero

    Both way are considered correct but if your want to be understood correctly, (in the USA) without confusion pronounce it fawr-tey.

  • wetsuit5

    As part of a sword it’s “fort”. :eek:
    But my first exposure to it was in music as “fortay”. :grin:

    So I willing to have the Rin-Tin-Tin fort be “fort” :razz:
    And the strengh be “fortay”. :razz:

    Besides, we use music far more than we use swords today. :grin:

    HotForWords,
    You have to count your crunches in fortissimo.
    Or at least mezzo forte. :grin:

    And Kobe’s message,
    Hey everybody just follow the bouncing ball and look at them abs. :wink:

    And Marina,
    Thank you. The other day it was everybody sing along,,, But today you didn’t invite us crunch challenged (or just unpracticed) to join in. :!: :!: :razz: :oops:

  • my hot lover brett

    Hi,

    I recently found one of your videos when I was bored and quite enjoyed it, so for the past few days I have watched ALL of your videos, one by one. There was a word I was sure I would find, and I waited to come across it. To my surprise I never found it! I heard it quite a few times, but it was never the focus word. This surprised me greatly as it is one of the most versatile and controversial word in the English language.
    I’m sure someone has suggested it in the past; perhaps you were to shy to use it? (even though I heard you say it before).
    I think you already know what the word is and I’m not sure if it has an interesting origin or not. Here is a link to the uses of the word from Monty Python -

    http://www.funlol.com/586/History_of_the_F_Word!.html

    The legendary Billy Connolly said this about it-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41eoZXDb64

    I hope you consider using it because weather you love it or hate it; EVERYONE has said it at least once in their life. I don’t care if your Mother F*%&ing Teresa.
    Also I would like to hear you read out my name ;-)

  • my hot lover brett

    the link didnt work and it wont let me put it in so try these-

    http://www. maniacworld.com/f-81.swf
    http://www. funlol.com/586/History_of_the_F_Word!.html
    http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=AUaWCcDlI5s

  • my hot lover brett

    without the space of course

  • my hot lover brett
  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James
  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Thats odd too.. Marina you have more than 100 million views.. Thats not what yoube thinks though http://www.youtube.com/members?s=mv&t=a&g=5&c=0&to=0&p=2

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    I say fort as in Fort Bragg. I say forte or fortay as this is my forte or hobby or something I like, or a chore I have to do.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Great James, your on your way. :wink:

  • sadsad222

    Word request: interpret

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    How can alx do a 4th level reply?? Can you do it??

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    I have done the origin of that http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aVthSNUBre4

  • wetsuit5

    IMHO the Sword use of forte is passe :idea: hence “fortay” is the pronunciation. :wink:

  • celebornmars

    I didn’t know this word in this meaning before today but what I know is that the pronunciation “for-tay” is not logical because in English we can’t have a two syllabic word with both parts accentuated… The only exception I know is when the word was built with two words connected to each other. But clearly it is not the case here : “forte” refers to the French word “fort” and to the Italian word “forte” (meaning “powerful” or “strong”). The Latin root is “fortis”.
    So I think the two possible ways to pronounce “forte” in English are fɔː’t or fɔː’ti
    If I am wrong, I’d like to have an explanation…

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    where are you talking about?

  • my hot lover brett

    Unfortunately you don’t have the cleavage for the job. :grin:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Look on the practice comment page at the top you will see he did a 4th level reply to me

  • http://www.JimHathy.Com jimhathy.com

    I’m with you on this one
    “FOR-TAY”
    If you want fort, it’s fort!
    If you want “for-tay” it’s forte!
    Jim

  • fashfiji

    Can u look up the word SUBSCRIBE? :mrgreen:

  • http://www.JimHathy.Com jimhathy.com

    I THINK YOU HAVE THE
    “GIFT OF GAB”
    AS YOUR FORTE!

  • hrvat

    The word ‘Nitwit’ please! :???:

  • http://www.hotforwords.com Marina

    That’s the public page.. it takes them weeks to update… here are my views from my account page.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    test

  • http://www.hotforwords.com Marina

    aLx has special powers… as well as Capman911 (which he may not realize)…. people who help out with the site, TAs and such can comment up to 4 levels deep.. from the dashboard area so that they can answer specific questions by people. I don’t allow everyone as it gets out of control that way.

  • tr77379
  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    test again

  • http://www.hotforwords.com Marina

    I’m saving it for a special video.. I want it to be good :-)

  • celebornmars

    It literaly means: “to write under” (when you sign up a document, you add your signature below the text).
    sub- is a Latin prefix which means “under” and “scribe” comes from the Latin verb “scribere” (to write), which gave scrivere in Italian and écrire in French. We can find also the verb “schreiben” in German but I don’t know if the word has been borrowed by Germans to Latin or if it comes from a more ancient form.
    An interesting thing is that the building of the word is exactly the same in the four languages: subscribe (English), souscrire (French), sottoscrivere (Italian) and unterschreiben (German).

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    That explains it… By the way I know I asked earlier but do you have mac pro or just the normal mac.. My reason for asking is because the screen on the mac is 13 inch and mine is currently 15 inch.. I wondered if you had the normal mac if it sometimes seems a bit too small

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    I can’t imagine what the title will be then..

    First time f*ck..

    Hotforwords gets f*cked..
    :mrgreen:

  • crazytns

    Nitwit <— seems a good one also fort is how i say it

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Say my name?? So she says…. My hot lover brett. Over@mywebsite.haha

  • http://18wheels.mevio.com/ Warren

    Hello Marina,
    Did the earthquake scare you a little? I don’t like that feeling.
    Two excercise videos, maybe you can get enough for a complete weekly workout. :smile:
    Homework: I agree with you with the pronunciation.
    Thank you

  • sicmetal74

    I want to know the meaning and origin of the word Ommision

  • http://18wheels.mevio.com/ Warren

    I agree with your pronunciation not my typing abilities.

  • chevolay

    What’s next? Learn as you burn exercise videos. Bodily and mental exertion. Hot For Sweat, next time jumping jacks. :smile: :smile: :wink: :wink: :grin: :grin: :grin:

  • http://18wheels.mevio.com/ Warren

    Hello James,
    Well, how could it go otherwise when you have such a great mentor?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/foxbow15 foxbow15

    I think I saw capt do a 6th level comment a while ago……. you could only see one word per line :???:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    :mrgreen:

  • http://18wheels.mevio.com/ Warren

    You set yourself up for some funny comments.
    It always starts out innocently enough, but then…

  • thxeleven38

    Marina :

    I’ve always pronounced it with an e.

    P.S. I see Koby is aggressively pressing forward with your training. I am amazed at how fetching both of you are.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Good answer Tr77379. That explains it to a tee. :wink:

  • rob68

    hey marina
    work it baby work it hehe.
    over ere in oz land its pronounced as ”forte” :grin: :grin:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Who likes my new channel background.. Hope YouTube will like me a bit more now. :mrgreen:

  • bquarles0001

    a very hot forte

  • eiliferbest

    Word request: hey Marina i come from Faroe Islands wich is a small island group in europe.
    ive always heard faroe islands (føroyar on faroese) means sheep islands (seyga oyggjar on faoese) so how did sheep islands turn into faroe islands ? is faroe another word for sheep ?

    thx :D

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    test

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/smokey36bear smokey36bear

    Homework:
    I say for-tay. I never met anyone who says ‘fort’ unless they are talking about ‘Fort Harrison’ ‘Fort Dix’ ……

  • celebornmars

    Well I realize that the second possible pronunciation I gave can’t be used because it fits with the word “forty”. We could imagine saying fɔː’tÉ™ but it sounds a bit weird. So now with the explanation given by tr77379 I understand why we can find the pronunciation fɔː’te’ : to make a difference with the word “fort”.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    or my favorite Fort Knox :mrgreen:

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com aLx
  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1038662366 Cashy

    I tried explaining that I wasn’t that good in attack my defence was my fort(e). They wanted to know if it had a moat :???:

    Now I think that video would benefit from a little more Cowbell…
    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhSkRHXTKlw

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    test again

  • celebornmars

    This explanation seems good. We could imagine a third pronunciation to distinguish “fort” and “forte” with a secondary stress on the “e” (which would be a more “academic” pronunciation) but it’s not possible because of the word “forty”. And if we pronounce the final “e” without stress, the result sounds a bit strange.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    After this week end I will have a moat around my house when the storm hits NC

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/4frogs2 42frogs

    I have to agree that most people in the US say fort-ay.
    Like when we say advertisement and vitamin with long I’s

  • celebornmars

    Omission comes directly from Latin. This is the fact of omitting something (to forget it or to let it aside).

  • geronimo

    I was told years ago that ‘Forte’ is used in musical circles to refer to someones musical specialty, and any other time it should be pronounced ‘Fort’.

  • geronimo

    Oh, yeah. Best video yet!

  • lmv

    Hi Marina!
    At least in my country (Portugal) ‘forte’ is pronounced ‘fort’. But looks like there are many people who read the ‘e’. Anyways if you learned to say ‘fortay’ and you want to say it, I think there’s no problem (if the ones you’re talking to know what you mean, of course).

    Keep doing your for… keep doing what u do best! :lol:

  • http://18wheels.mevio.com/ Warren

    Hello Capman911,
    My favorite is “forty winks”.
    Forty is plural for for, isn’t it? :wink:

  • tomlmc

    since it is getting close to Election time.. how about the word debate..

    or how about the word Election.

  • celebornmars

    Really strange “advertisement” with a long I. :shock: With a weak end, the “i” normally becomes diphtongual. Perhaps a confusion or a joke with the word “teese”.

  • http://18wheels.mevio.com/ Warren

    oops, forgot the “-ty” on forty

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DPS670950 melikadothechacha

    Marina doing isometrics to keep the six pack? :grin:
    She should try some leg lifts for that, too… :mrgreen:
    “four-tay” sounds right, just like “re-zoo-may”
    The accent mark above the “e” is often not
    used and this may be wherein the confusion lies.
    Fort may be thought to be the correct usage
    because of words like torte, which has no accent
    mark above the (silent) “e”.
    Kobe loves his ball! :twisted:

  • http://www.dictionaric.com dictionaricdotcom

    Marina ! Come on http://www.edufire.com and I will teach you French and you will be FORTE :idea:

  • celebornmars

    Marina, I have a special request for a special word: Kobe (the name of your lovely but a bit unquiet dog).
    Where does it come from (the name of Kobe Bryant, the Japanese town, something else)?
    And how should it be pronounced? (Kobay, Koby or Kob) :mrgreen:

  • http://www.dictionaric.com dictionaricdotcom

    Did you say http://www.dictionaric.com ? :grin:

  • kingogames16

    what is the origin of the word east and how did it become associated with a type of direction?

  • pedantickarl

    Question: If we didn’t have homonyms, would we still be talking about how to pronounce fort vs fort-tay?

    I think most people have been impacted in some negative way due to hearing one thing when it was supposed to mean another. To prevent mis-heard speech, some people emphasize certain syllables, or in some cases people use affected speech. Here are examples of emphasized or affected speech, not necessarily homonyms. niner (nine), biatch (bitch), dayum (damn)

    How about tort vs torte. We don’t say, “Give the children another piece of tor-tay”.

    Many dictionaries have a usage note regarding the pronunciation of forte, pointing to the influence of the music term forte.

    On a related note, Marina did a video on the word Colonel vs kernel. That video points out some interesting historical things regarding pronunciation.
    http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/01/01/colonel-hotforwords-reporting/

    Hey, if we didn’t have all these inconsistencies there might not have been a HotForWords site. :grin:

  • http://www.dictionaric.com dictionaricdotcom

    Did you notice that Anglo-Saxon surname ending with -E are pronounced as if they had no -E ending :
    For the most frequent : MOORE, GREENE, LOWE, STEELE, WOLFE, ROWE, POOLE, CLARKE, HORNE, HOWE, SHARPE, COOKE, CROWE, LOCKE, BYRNE, MEADE, GOODE, THORPE, BROWNE, THORNE, and so on…

  • http://www.rockyfrisco.com hotrocky

    Ummm, nope. :)

  • http://www.flamesoldier.com roadrunrnch
  • http://www.youtube.com/annuddermale annuddermale

    forte can be pronounced either (or is that eye-thur :?: ) way..

    from Merriam-Webster’s site (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/forte):

    usage In forte we have a word derived from French that in its “strong point” sense has no entirely satisfactory pronunciation. Usage writers have denigrated \ˈfȯr-ËŒtā\ and \ˈfȯr-tÄ“\ because they reflect the influence of the Italian-derived 2forte. Their recommended pronunciation \ˈfȯrt\, however, does not exactly reflect French either: the French would write the word le fort and would rhyme it with English for. So you can take your choice, knowing that someone somewhere will dislike whichever variant you choose. All are standard, however. In British English \ˈfȯ-ËŒtā\ and \ˈfȯt\ predominate; \ˈfȯr-ËŒtā\ and \fȯr-ˈtā\ are probably the most frequent pronunciations in American English.

    oh, and about the situps…’er…doesn’t the sun shine in California?… :shock: :cool:

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobs_your_uncle Bob

    I have always pronounced forte as fort-ay because I have never heard it pronounced any other way, but the O.E.D. says that is wrong and it should have a silent “e” when referring to something at which one excels.
    If talking about a pianoforte or how a piece of music should be played loud, the O.E.D. says the accented “e” should be used.
    Very confusing! Now I’m getting scared to open my mouth for fear of making a gaffe (silent “e”) and some pedant putting the boot in.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobs_your_uncle Bob

    I was under the impression that one should not do sit-ups or crunches with the hands or an object held behind the neck, because it is too easy to injure the neck that way. One should, apparently, hold the hands or object over the chest, and focus the eyes on a spot on the ceiling to avoid curling the head forward during the exercise.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    You could investigate this word.. Good luck prononucing it.. I have read that the OED doesnt have much on this word either

    Zenzizenzizenzic

  • davetrs

    Hey Marina,
    I wanted to know where the phrase, “the bee’s knees” comes from.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    I love the background James. Very original :wink:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    I didn’t know which was better. The sandwhich one or the one now.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    I agree with you on that one Jimhathy. She is gifted. :wink:

  • http://www.youtube.com/annuddermale annuddermale

    true…somehow i was…’er…distracted. i should’ve mentioned it, as we certainly don’t want Marina wearing a neck brace or doing any harm to herself.

    so, Marina, from now on please hold your hands just behind your ears or cross your arms over your chest and stare straight up as Bob suggests…and don’t forget to breathe properly… :cool:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    How many can you do Marina? :shock:

  • tryant

    I vote for for-tay as that’s how it has been said to me since Shep’s great great great grampa-dog was a pup. If looking for the americanized pronunciation that’s the one to go with.

    I request “shot”,as in “shotglass”,there’s gotta be some drinkers here somewhere that might enjoy knowing too.

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    All you got is the accent. =\

  • http://www.myspace.com/njv3 Nathan

    http://www.nfl.com/players/mattforte/profile?id=FOR645404

    I’ll stick with the way Chicago Bears 2nd Round Pick Matt Forte (for-tay) says it. =)

    –Nathan

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    What accent

  • sparkyinseattle

    Male for female…. Hmmm…. :?: aaaaaaay like the fonz of course!

  • orion_ss1

    I always have and always will pronounce it ‘fort-ay’. My music major girlfriend agrees ( which is rare ).

    If you agree that the purpose of language ( words ) is to communicate, and if you agree that effective communications are better than vague communications, then you should ask yourself if more people would be enlightened by the ‘fort-ay’ pronunciation; and then ask yourself which is more appropriate?

    Heck, even my fencing instructor ( a PE major ) called it ‘fort-ay’
    ( well, even a clock that is stopped is right twice a day ).

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1038662366 Cashy

    Is it a sound made by a stuttering German Buddhist.

  • rype

    Hello, I have a word request
    how about the word “WORD” why do we call it this? were did it come from?

    Anyway thankyou marina I have learned SO MUCH :grin:

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Here you go Alx I found you sign or smiley face.

    Crossbones Smiley Face

  • freemufasa

    Dear professor Marina. I would love for you to tell us the meaning/background of the word “hysteria”. I think it could be your best word ever.

    P.S. Thank you for appealing to my geekiest of interests, philology and linguistics are so cool.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    never mind the tiny url didn’t work.damit

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DPS670950 melikadothechacha

    Can you feel it? :mrgreen:

  • http://www.virb.com/soundtrackgeek soundtrackgeek

    It is definitely “fort-ay.” That’s how it is always said in reference to dynamic level in music, anyway.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911
  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    test 1

  • crazytns

    most people in America say its raining “Cats&Dogs” i want you to investigate where this phrase came from =]

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com aLx

    i’m rather psychotic.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    I thought you would enjoy the placements of the smileys.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com aLx

    well, it doesn’t help much when i’m looking in the wrong direction, you know. :/

  • socksandviolins

    I’m afraid Kobe stole the show this time. I’m betting no tennis ball is safe within a mile of himl

  • socksandviolins

    It may come from the Italian word “Forte” pronounced “Fortay.” The piano was originally called the “Pianoforte,” meaning it could be played soft (piano) or loud (forte’), as opposed to the harpsichord which has only one volume level.” Forte’ in Italian may also imply strength. I’m afraid my only forte’ is avoiding work.

  • joylight

    Marina,
    Of course you are right!
    Forte, with the ‘e’ being pronounced.

  • enigmaticdude1234

    Hey marina i have a word request!

    OK Here goes.

    I want to know what the word ‘word’ means. We all know you’re hot for words, but what DOES the word ‘word’ mean. If you could do a video about it that would be great.

    Hugs from canada!

    Hagan

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Haha cute. Brings up a word request.

    Word Request: “Workout” Working out is also my forTE (How I say it) like you, but where does “working out” come from? Do you have do what it literally says and “work” or excersise “out” or outside? If so, then why are gyms built? Of course my ripped, curvy, toned teacher should know the answer, right?

    Thanks Marina
    Matthew

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Marina’s pullin’ them from around the world! :mrgreen:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    I believe this was already explained bro.

  • enigmaticdude1234

    :wink: Where are you from?

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Lots of people want this word to be derived. Heck, I’ll hop on the bandwagon too. :mrgreen:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Do the Bears got a good QB yet? Not that much of a football fan. GO NINERS :mrgreen:

  • ptery

    According to my research both “Fort” and “Fort-ay” are acceptable pronunciations for forte BUT since the word is french in origin I would think that it’s supposed to be pronounced “Fort-ay”

    According to my mother, (a french professor) french words that end with any of the letters in the word “careful” get pronounced. SO since forte ends in an “e” it would be pronounced giving forte the second syllable.

    The defense rests.

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    How do you put in hyperlinks? Sorry I’m not good at this stuff.

  • Dez

    Marina,

    It is pronounced both ways. However, the meaning you intend determines the proper pronunciation.

    Forte (as a noun) comes from the Middle English word “fort” meaning “strength” which in turn comes from Old French “fort” which comes from Latin “fortis” which comes from Old Latin “forcius” which comes from the Indo-European base “bheregh” meaning “high, elevated, strong.” This English “forte” is properly pronounced as “fort”. This word is the basis for the English words “fortress” and “fortify”. As a noun it has two meanings: (1) a thing that a person does particularly well; special accomplishment or strong point (2) the strongest part of the blade of a sword, between the middle and the hilt (which is contrasted by the “foible” which is the weakest part of the blade of a sword, from the middle to the tip). This second usage began around 1648 as the usage of long and broad swords waned and the usage of sabers, cutlasses, and rapiers waxed.

    Forte (in music) is pronounced “for-tay” and comes from Italian “forte” meaning “strong” or “strength” which also comes from Latin “fortis”, etc. Used as an adjective or adverb its meaning is: loud (music); a direction to the performer to play with strength or force, as opposed to “piano” which is “soft”. As a noun its meaning is: a forte note or passage (in music). The direction in music “pianoforte” means to play softly, then loud.

    That folks are pronouncing the word as “fort” or “for-tay” does not change the root meaning of “forte.” It is still a strength. One etymological dictionary states that the usage of forte to describe a personal strength in ability or character originates in 1682. This period of time (in Europe and its colonies) is marked with a great focus on music (that we call classical) and opera as well as fashionable swordplay. I suggest that the common pronunciation of “forte” (“for-tay”) is an improper pronunciation that blends the Italian pronunciation of the word with an English usage… which still maintains the root meaning of the word.

    I pulled this from the “Word of the Day Archive”
    Forte (etymology): From Latin fortis “strong” via French “fort” and Italian “forte,” the word also behind English “fort(ress)” and “fortify.” The ultimate root from which “fortis” derived is probably *bhergh-, the source of German Berg “mountain” and Russian bereg “bank, shore.” It turns up in Old English “burg” that gave modern “borough” and was borrowed into French as bourg “town” from which “bourgeois” and “bourgeoisie” are derived.

  • mattym

    Everyone i have known has said Fort-ay. Can be said either way.
    Original meaning is the strong point of a sword. Now it means a persons strong point.
    Teacher is always right…Fort-ay :grin:

  • pedantickarl

    Check the Lessons list link in the upper left of the page for all of the words that have been done like this one.
    http://www.hotforwords.com/2007/12/30/cats-and-dogs/

  • pedantickarl

    That was way too funny. :lol:
    Good one.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com aLx

    see here.

  • Dez

    Ya gotta teach ‘em young!

  • Dez

    Dictionaricdotcom did a breakdown of nations a day or so ago… she truly does pull them in from across the globe.

  • crazytns

    i think u never looked up “Take A Bow” so if you are kind enough look it up =] ill try to video request it too!

  • Dez

    That wasn’t an earthquake, Warren… that was your heart pounding while watching Marina do sit-ups :mrgreen:

  • bill2468

    Forte is between thirte-nine and forte-one !

    BiLL

  • http://TropiCoolUniverse.com SurfinRI

    Forté for me, my dear Marina!

  • quint

    Marina,
    I have a word request. “Toehead”
    I know what the word means, it is often used to describe a child with blonde hair… but where did it come from?

    thanks,
    QuinT

  • mrchex

    For tay says i

  • danielpool52

    you are aingnert

  • danielpool52

    for could water :?:

  • dsolaris

    I think I found the longest word in the English Language.
    Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicavolcanoconiosis (45 letters). And the longest Latin word consists of 52 letters.

    Not just trying to find long words, but I do find myself looking at these and trying to break them down part by part. You are rubbing off.

    But for a more normal word. Well not so normal. I enjoy peering at the stars at night and I came across this word which I find interesting if not strange. The word is syzygy.

    For the life of me, I can’t seem to easily break that one down because it is so freaking short. Wanna give it a shot? :???:

    A.K.A WiredSolaris
    Student in Training

  • rushman71

    Hey, Marina, here is your answer. It is both. So if I were you, I would continue to say it how I would like to say it. :cool:
    1. for·te [ fawrt, fáwr tày ] (plural for·tes)
    2. for·te [ fáwr tày, fáwrtee ]

    rushman71

  • rushman71

    Et tu, for-tay? :mrgreen:

  • http://www.youtube.com/bikengruvin David

    Hi Marina,

    Forte, as I have heard it… is with the eh! pronunciation on the end of the word … eh! ( the eh! on the end of this sentence shows an idiosyncratic identifier common to Canadians, eh! ). :arrow: :roll:

  • mrwalper

    Hey Maria, kudos for you to keep in shape! And thanks for sharing it with us! :wink: It’s something that I should do more of… wait… what is the origin of Kudos? Seems like an odd word.

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: Ah-ha!! You finally got stumped!! But have no fear! People like me will give you the scoop on this crazy word!! Every body I know says for-te. So do I. If I were to use the word fort,people would say,”what’s that?” So,in my town,you should say for-te. However,I have heard from college professors,that fort is grammatically correct. In my opinion,say it the way those you associate with pronounce it. That way,you will avoid people asking you what you are talking about-unless of course,you are a chatterbox and just have to keep talking. Now,you have the whole story-I think!!! Isn’t that a great idea?

  • leonard

    much over rated, much to do about nothing. I’m good at breathing air and farting and getting loud and louder, but why work?

  • http://www.youtube.com/bikengruvin David

    Dear Marina,

    Everybody has a forte or two or three or more… it comes from inside your core.

    I like looking for discarded things and transforming/modifying them into something better and useful… it’s one of my fortes.

    See here…

  • forager

    Forte? I mean ? who The Frack, does’nt know what that means! It’s what You’re best at. Duh!!!! Also, bestest, strongest part of Sword, Near, Close, To the Hilt! Please Marina, You can do so much Better

  • http://www.youtube.com/labbatt78 labbatt78

    What’s the origin of “Rosh Hashanah” and who celebrates that holiday?

  • forager

    To David; Canadians don’t say,( eh ) Only Ignorant People Use slang! That Term was Promoted by 2 Comedians, Bob & Doug Mc. Kensie. Get Off It. Forte, Is Pronounced… Four- tey. Please Everybody Smile!!!! Marina needed a day off, She’s My Hero!!! I Love the site, sometimes Marina, You don’t dig deep enough. I Luv Ya anyways:) Darryl

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: Hey,don’t joke around about farting. It is an art form! There are the loud ones,silent ones,ones that sound like a whistle,wet ones,and some that sound like an atom bomb going off just to name a few. I wouldn’t doubt that somewhere in this world that there is a school of farting. Just take an extra pair of underwear when you attend class. You know,just for accidents-yikes!!

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: Is it,”the good,the bad,and the for-tay?”

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: Whatever!!!!

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: I fell asleep reading this one. That is my for-tay!!

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: Good!! Now I can go back to sleep!!

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: A mile? How about a thousand miles? Yikes!!!

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: Did somebody say catfish?

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: The WORD is bugger. You know! That stuff that comes out of your nose when you have a cold. Yuck!!

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    Hey!! The team is pronounced, “Da-Bears”. Don’t forget it!!

  • Dez

    It comes from working flax (a fibrous plant from which we make linen)… a toe is a clump of combed and processed flax and it is bright yellow in color. Thus, toe-heads (blonds) have hair the color of worked flax. Flax is a common poetic term for blonds as well (hair of flax, flaxen-haired, etc.)

    On a tour of Mt. Vernon I once was able to see and participate in processing flax as it was done in the days of the gentleman farmer, George Washington.

  • darkblade

    whooow…lot of ignorant people on youtube…
    so.if it’s still necessary: Forte comes from the latin word “fortis” meaning strength…it was used to compose other words like fortification(french), fortificatione(italian), fortificatie(romanian),all neo-latin languages.the problem seems to appear in the french area,because they blame the accent.the accent on “E” looks like this / or like this \ (they are on top of E) and they determine either the E letter is pronounced or not (YES,if the accent is / “aiguu” meaning sharp and NOT if the accent is \ “grave” meaning serious-short”…anyway, in the case brought up by Marina, we shall use ['fort] as in “je suis fort en…”=”i’m skilled/good at…” the therm forte where you pronounce the E or ey or tey is use in music.still,today,more and more institutions accept both forms as correct

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/furrylogic101 koalabear

    I mispronounce forte as for-tay,
    the same way I mispronounce zoology as zoo-ology
    - “The study of zoos” :mrgreen:

  • Dez

    Rosh HaShanah is a Jewish celebration. It literally means “Head of the Year” and celebrates the beginning of the civil Hebrew calendar. The day is celebrated as Yom Teruah the “Day of (the blowing of) the horn” or “Day of the Trumpet” by the blowing of a shofar (a ram’s horn). Some Rabbis describe this day as the day of judgment, others as a day of remembrance. It is also the first day of the ten “Days of Awe” (Yamim Noraim) that culminates in Yom Kippur (Yom Kippurim) “Day of Atonement(s)”. Rosh HaShanah marks the beginning of the Jewish High Holy Days. If you meet your Jewish friends or neighbors on this day, it is considered polite to wish them a good year with the greeting “Shana Tova.”

  • Dez

    My apologies… I had no video of a pretty Russian lass exercising while narrating this explanation. :mrgreen:

  • starkravingstark

    Hello. Although it has nothing to do with ‘forte,’ I would like to request a lesson. I have become interested in the term ‘host’ and wonder if there is a connection between host-parasite ‘host’ and eucharist ‘host.’ Can you help? :???: :???: :???:

  • http://18wheels.mevio.com/ Warren

    Hello Dez,
    Isn’t it funny that Marina thinks that she needs to excercise?
    She can lift 50 pounds of books with a thought and move thousands of pounds of men with a smile.

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Killa Cali, SF

    Boooooo L.A! Sorry Marina. :oops:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Do you mean booger? If so, its been done.

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Ehhhhh Devin Hester is FASSSST!

  • dezdkado

    Funny! :mrgreen: I vote “Ko-bay”.

  • nyles7

    Perhaps this is not a request for a word as much as “why isn’t this a word?”
    My 5 year old son started using the word “fastly” since this seems to be the opposite of “slowly”
    For the life of me, I can’t figure out why this should be incorrect!
    Help!

  • http://calling-muggins.blogspot.com/ muggins

    I change my mind. For-tay is okay enough to be crowned “correct”, on the grounds we all should bow to common usage of the incorrect pronunciation. Besides, it is a practical mispronunciation because it differentiates between fort and forte.

    (BTW- I think my long suppressed teenage foot fetish is starting to surface again after Marina’s video lesson on forte.) Which reminds me of a story…
    An old construction worker I was learning from many, many moons ago, was from Nevada (stop me if I told this before), and he told me about what he said to his girlfriend when they visited his hometown in Nevada. It was
    Gene Autry’s (the cowboy crooner) old hometown. And he had a twin brother who had as good a singing voice as Gene, but he had a stutter when he talked. It was a small town and the old construction dude knew Gene’s brother and waved him over. He told his girlfriend that whole story as he walked towards them, and he added: Watch his eyes when I introduce you to him. His gaze will wonder down to your shoes. He has a foot fetish and everybody in town knows it. :roll:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    I thought your Maxim show only comes on every other Friday?

  • forager

    Hey darknight! Before You start calling People Ignorant! WHY don’t You learn how to Spell? Next time I’m Bored Silly. I will not stop Here. Sorry Marina:):):)

  • timeforheroes

    juxta-position

  • celebornmars

    Quite interesting word. I know that “hysteria” is related to “uterus” (and that explains why we use this word only for women).

  • http://www.hotforwords.com Marina

    Yes, only every other Friday

  • forager

    Fort…… Forte One is derived from the other. The Pronunciation is differrent, They mean 2 different things. Websters, remember Them? It’s a Dictionary….. Not Wiki whatever

  • celebornmars

    You come a bit fast to your conclusion :wink:
    Firstly, it appears that the original word was not “forte” but “fort”. The final “e” doesn’t come from French but from Italian, and the pronunciation “fortay” comes from Italian. In French, in the female form of the adjective “fort”, which is “forte”, the final “e” is mute.
    Additionally, when English borrow words to another language, they generally changes its pronunciation with the English pronunciation rules. Of course there are exceptions (the word “rendezvous” for example) but they aren’t very numerous compared to the number of transformed words.

  • BillyB

    Why is Bill Connolly, in your mind, “Legendary” & Mother Teresa not even respected? Don’t answer that.

  • http://18wheels.mevio.com/ Warren

    Hello dave,
    Good video and great idea.

  • celebornmars

    1) The correct spelling of your word in Italian was “fortificaZione”.
    2) The adjective in French is “fort” (the “t” is mute) and not “forte”. “forte” is the female form (with a mute “e” at the end but the “t” pronounced).
    3) The adjective “forte” exists also in Italian and all of its letters are pronounced.

  • BillyB

    Get a coach…like Bob I was under the impression that one should not do sit-ups or crunches with the hands or an object held behind the neck…One should, apparently, hold the hands or object over the chest… and a progressively bigger ball to throw to Kobe & you too, can look like Lisa Nova. Kobe, with a haircut & a california tan, may also beef up a little.

  • pedantickarl

    Hello Marina, I just noticed on YT, your Forte video had an advertisement about an upcoming movie, “How To Lose Friends”. They are having a video contest called “Most Embarrassing Office Blunders”.

    There is no voting as such, and the popularity YT views count for 30% of the judging. There are 5 videos uploaded so far and they are all bad. One of them is already disqualified as it is longer than 2 minutes.
    Humor counts for 35% and originality counts for the other 35%.
    I think you should enter. I can just imagine some embarrassing moment in a teachers life of etymology. :oops:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/LoseFriends

  • dezdkado

    I would agree that Wikipedia is not the most scholarly source of info. However, inside Webster’s dictionary, you should be able to find an etymological guide after every word entry in that dictionary (If not, find another dictionary). You may be able to observe that all definitions of forte have the same etymological source and the same root meaning. All of the definitions of forte are synonyms of each other, further exemplifying their common root meaning. The substantive difference is the pronunciation, which is the point of this exercise.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DPS670950 melikadothechacha

    “Learning is what most adults will do for a living in the 21st century.” – Lewis Perelman

    .
    I guess that explains why we all show up for your lessons?
    Nah! We’d be here anyway – it’s about Marina’s hotnesss.. :mrgreen:

  • dezdkado

    You bring up a good point, Muggins… when context isn’t enough to provide meaning, pronunciation can give the needed clue. It is possible for one to be confused between a fort, as in a fortification, or a forte, as in a personal strength, without differentiating between the two through pronunciation.

    “Survival is this warrior’s fort.” – refers to where the warrior is stationed (Fort Survival).
    “Survival is this warrior’s forte.” – refers to the particular skill of the warrior.

    Without the Italian pronunciation of “for-tay”, one may get bogus info from the statement.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/foxbow15 foxbow15

    wth…this video is allready at 21 most viewed today…that was quik :shock:

  • nas

    Hi Marina,

    I would know the meaning of the title of a song By Led Zeppelin: “whola lotta love”.

    P.s. :sorry for my bad english but I’m italian.
    In italian “forte” means strong but i think u allready knew this… :mrgreen:

  • pedantickarl

    In about 17 hours it did 64,866 views.

  • pedantickarl

    Despite a significant 933 vote lead, my friends and I are still voting. Marina’s video now has 2575 votes. :smile:

  • hotta_hotta

    hey marina! i just would like to know why the last molars that grow in our gums are called wisdom teeth? is it because we are getting old and have wisdom? i’d be more than glad if you discuss this. thanks and Godbless!

  • http://www.youtube.com/bikengruvin David

    Hey Darryl,
    Are you being just a bit critical? Everybody uses it now and then… even the brightest!

  • my hot lover brett

    Why is there always some magnanimous jerk, who thinks his opinion is needed when a comment isn’t even directed at him? Duh…Don’t answer that.

  • http://www.youtube.com/bikengruvin David

    Thanks Warren!

  • dezdkado

    Somebody is a little cranky, and needs a nap… eh?

  • hotta_hotta

    or if not the wisdom tooth, maybe the everybody-loves-to-do sweet act — the famous French kiss :mrgreen: . why is it with the word “French”? were the French the ones who coined it because they had too many lovers?? or is there really an official fact about it?? because i dont think kisses have nationalities. i would never say american kiss, or japanese kiss, right? but why French kiss?it’s very much specific compared to other forms of kisses.

    :arrow: waitin’ for your response no matter when.. :wink:

    take care.. :smile:

  • celebornmars

    We can also hear “Inuit kiss”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB4P0B5gT0U
    and “Russian kiss” (sorry I didn’t find that video in English):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK9r7UwGUuQ

    Another mystery: why do we say “French frites” in English? This is a Belgian invention, not French…

  • snaxman

    you are correct its fort-ay

  • wetsuit5

    @ 2640 (That’s a good margin)
    #2 @ 1642 (Good number for violating the rules)
    #3 @ 1102 (Whacha doin back der?)

    Still gonna bust the thermometer! :twisted:

  • cufan71

    ZOWIE!!! Hi Marina! I noticed you haven’t done any lessons on those zany Z words like:
    Zoo
    Zebra
    Zipper
    Zap
    Zig-Zag etc….
    And what about the letter Z who invented it? CraZy!!! :mrgreen:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    When they turn on the hadron collider, if we all die I want you to know….. :mrgreen:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBfWNAoZUZk&feature=related Chemikal

    I, I, I…

  • torrecillas

    HELLO MARINA.

    I AM FROM COLOMBIA IN SOUTH AMERICA…
    AND RECENTLY I HAVE FOUND YOUR YOUTUBE SITE AND THIS WEBPAGE….

    IN SPANISH, WE CALL “PALINDROMO” OR “CAPICUA” TO SPECIAL WORDS OR PHRASES…

    IN ENGLISH ARE CALLED PALINDROME…

    I`M LEARNING ENGLISH AND NOW YOU ARE MY SECOND TEACHER (THE OTHER ONE IS MALE AND ISN´T AS SEXY AS YOU)

    SO… WOULD YOU DO A SPECIAL VIDEO JUST FOR PALINDROMES?

    THANKS FOR HELPING ME LEARNING ENGLISH IN YOUR SEXY WAY…

    YOURS:
    David torrecillas (my surename in english would be: little-towers).

    thnks :smile:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    No you are looking at global… Not the blank one..

  • louie

    Hello Marina. My mother used to serve me a “hotty-toddy” when I had a bad cough. It was lemon juice, honey, whiskey all heated up into a nice syrup. If it didn’t solve the cough, I least I felt better. Can you look into the origin of the word? I’ve had my suspicion that it relates to the Dutch and an obscure African tribe.

    My best regards,

    Louie

    P.S. Your Maltese is adorable.

  • celebornmars

    or… zeugma :shock:

  • torrecillas

    Is a very special word.
    In spanish we call to those molars, something like: “the sense teeth”,
    (muelas del juicio).
    mothers of south amreica call it: “youth teeth”.

    Whatever, in both languages, that molars have the same point: when it appear, it hurts and are the sign that you are not a child.

    Maybe the comparisson between languages could help you…
    is the same historical root.

  • fianchetto1

    Buenos dias, mi amigo:-)

    At the top of this page, there are the title “Words/Lessons”
    Click there with your mouse.
    You will find an alphabetical list of all our Dear Teacher’s past lessons.
    Beneath “R” is RACECAR…
    Click there with your mouse and you will be certain to enjoy her wonderful lessons on palindromes :-)
    sorry, no Espaniol, but she does give Latin, English and Greek examples:-)

    Ciao,
    Fianchetto1

  • fianchetto1

    or the German Zeitgeist :-)

  • torrecillas

    thanks amigo,….

  • fianchetto1

    IMHO, I am quite certain that /fort/ is correct, HOWEVER, like many other corruptions of the origional words that become misused often enough to become more frequently used than the original, I think this may be a word in transition. See our Dear Teacher’s lessons on “Goodbye” and “Mayday”. Just as these words evolved by contraction/mispronunciation, I believe forte is doing the same. Several nautical terms come to mind as captains picked up non-native-English speaking crewmen when in a foreign port to replace original crew lost on the way, and who adapted their languages to lust enough english to “get by” (intermediate languages like this are called “Pidgin” languages, and often have parts borrowed from both original languages), “Forecastle” became “Foc’sul”, “Boatswain” became “Bosun”, and “Gunwhale” became “Gunn’l”

  • fianchetto1

    Sorry, Marina for my Freudian slip……I must have been thinking of you when I typed “lust” instead of “just”…..you know how we men become idiots in the presence of such a beautiful woman as yourself :oops:

  • yomero

    Zany is s great word for a word request. :smile: :smile:

  • prospero811

    I think it can be pronounced either way.

  • fianchetto1

    Also must admit theat I failed to consider the possible Italian “forte /for-tay/” and may stand corrected by Dez’s post a page or two previous….Thanks, Dez I learned something new today :-)

    Ciao,
    Fianchetto1

  • fianchetto1

    So, if it came from French, forte would be /fort/ (no acute accent on the final ‘e’)
    but if from the Italian, forte would be /for-tay/ :grin:

  • fianchetto1

    My apologies amigo…correct place to look is under “P” for Palindrome…the title at the top of the video will say “RACECAR” ( a palindrome itself :-)

    mea culpa :-)

    Ciao,
    Fianchetto1

  • fianchetto1

    YIPPEE! I finally got my new avatar :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

    MUCH!!!!!!!! better than the former default mutant alien that was there before:-)

  • tayljim

    2657 votes
    #2 1642
    If every subscriber voted just one time
    it would be no contest

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    :neutral:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    I know… And why don’t I have the clevage

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/foxbow15 foxbow15

    :???:

  • mittheman

    Marina,

    I’m crying corcodile tears because without rhyme or reason, none of my request are ever used. I don’t want to make bones about the matter but I’m mad as a hatter and thinking of throwing in the towel if you don’t promulgate at least one of my requests.

  • darkblade

    yeah..i know it’s with Z in italian…just missed type.i was talking about the accents on E in French language…and you’re wrong,the “T” is not mute

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Ohhhh nevermind, It said 1 more day yesterday but now its going by hours. Also, how can I play guess the word origin game with you if I don’t got satellite radio? I live in San Francisco though.=\

    Thanks Marina.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DPS670950 melikadothechacha

    Boo hoo! So, it’s instant gratification
    or none at all?? hmmm…. I didn’t get
    a request answered for six monthes…
    …and it was not even the ones I was
    really pushing for (dirt, flirt, etc.).
    I consider myself extremely fortunate
    that Marina selected “spoon”, else
    I’d still be waiting, patiently. Give the
    girl a break – maybe come up with
    some decent word requests. Spend
    some time actually reading comments
    to see if your requests have merit, or
    are just adding to the clutter. PEACE :mrgreen:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DPS670950 melikadothechacha

    HEY! your Gravater of your picture was cool!!
    Just an opinion, but you should go with that :mrgreen:

  • pedantickarl

    Hi mittheman, I’ve been on here for ten years and never had a request used. — OK, just kidding. :smile:

    Anyway, from Marina’s past comments here is the deal. Maybe Marina can add to this or correct me if I’m wrong.

    From user’s requests, Marina picks those that make for an interesting video. Some etymologies just don’t. She also tries to use words that that fit into current events (movies, news, geek stuff, etc)

    Also, some word requests take more research than others, and despite all of her efforts, there is always some tiny detail that could be added after the release of the video.

    I had requested the word Cologne a few months ago. She just did it, but not from my request as the context of the way she did the video was much funnier and more enlightening. She did a great job on that video which I would have never expected. She is brilliant. So, expect the unexpected.

    Besides that, she gets a ton of requests. Your’s will eventually come.
    Have lots of patience. Or, poetically speaking, “… we suffer in silence”.

  • b-meister

    It can be pronounced both ways, I looked it up on my dictionary.com widget on my mac computer. :shock:

  • pedantickarl

    By the way, I had requested the origin of “April’s Fool” which she didn’t do. Why? I made the request on March 31, or was it Apr 1. So, that means I’ll have to wait for one year to see that request. Of course, she could do that video at any time. With Marina, there is always a surprise and keeps me on my toes.

  • hamadzafar

    Hi Marina. i have been watching your videos for quite a while now so i finally subscribed today. and made an account on your website. well first of all id like to say that ur beautiful and im pretty sure a russian billionaire will fall in love with u pretty soon. ur dog is really cute too. i do have a request for a word. i checked ur lists and this word is not on there. the word is WARRANT. like you know when the cops say we have a warrant for your arrest. and i guess u can tie in the word WARRANTY with that too if its possible. thanks for reading and i hope you full fill my word request.

    your trustee Hamad Zafar lol

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Hmm. What happened to the rest of the coloured border crew? It seems like its only me alx capman and buzzword have them and I swear there were more people than that.

  • celebornmars

    Warrant has another meaning used in finance. This is a category of financial products which are linked to the price of stocks, for example.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    WOO HOO! I have gone global
    #98 – Most Viewed (Today) – Comedians – Global

  • hamadzafar

    thanks for the reply but i also want to know where the word originated from and the meaning for the other warrant (cops) also how the heck do i get my avatar. i signed up on the gravatar website and did everything but its still not here

  • celebornmars

    Sorry, but I’M FRENCH and I know how to pronounce French words. :mrgreen: In the word “fort” (the name or the adjective), the final “t” is mute. It is only pronounced when you use the female form of the adjective “forte”. In that case, the “e” is still mute, as I said. Actually, the “e” can be pronounced in the South of France but this is not a standard pronunciation.

  • hamadzafar

    nice…got the avatar

  • velzinha

    I think it says FortE, because it is not an english word.. Well, I am brazilian and we say the same word: “This is not my forte” – translating, “Este não é o meu forte”. Forte in portuguese means strong, as in this is not my “ponto forte”, literally “strong point”, slang term for my “best quality”.

  • buzzword

    i’m killing them off james, regrettably for you, i’m afraid your little observation has hastened my plans. tonight as the mocking bird mourns the loss of your laughter, you shall sleep where the red roses grow.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    I will sleep in a flowerpot my back garden??

  • animalntaz

    :neutral: You’re not even concerned about the other directions?

  • buzzword

    you need to be close to home. well at least your heart will, the rest will be incorporated into the biblical diorama in my basement.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Don’t bother. I have stomach.

  • animalntaz

    :lol: Kobe’s forte is playing fetch.

  • animalntaz

    Will Forte: “Live, from New York, it’s SATURDAY NIGHT!” :mrgreen:

  • sniperskaya

    Forte’? Marina, you don’t look a day over 39! :razz:

  • fianchetto1

    I’d like to share my all-time favourite, from when I was a paramedic- often when asked “What’s the good word?” I would reply, “bezoar-a calcification found in the intestinal tractsof ruminant animale used by primitive peoples as a talisman to ward off evil spirits and promote health.”
    I have no idea of the etymology and would be most pleased to have you to teach me the origins of my favourite word. Please :-)

    Thank you very much, and keep up the tremendous work:-)

    Ciao,
    Fianchetto

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/foxbow15 foxbow15

    which one?

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Put the lotion on the skin, put the lotion on the skin :lol:

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Hi Hhamadzafar, and welcome to the site. I am glad you joined. Miss M will see your request and add it to her list she has. Just give her a little time as she has word requests coming in all the time. If you need any help with anything don’t hesitate to ask Captain Jack or myself. We are the TA’s and assist Miss M with her site sometimes. Or you can just put out general message an anyone will help you. Have fun and enjoy. :wink: :smile:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DPS670950 melikadothechacha

    OW! You are a very bad man – LOL! :mrgreen:

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Miss M is way past posting the vid now. She is on the first page. I hope everything is alright with her :?:

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Dang what a dog Billy. :shock: I like to take him for a walk or let him take me for a walk. :lol:

  • bl355y0u

    What is the Origin For the Word: Theorem???

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Is that really Lisa Nova? WOW, I’ll be right back :oops:

  • monday

    i would like to request these words:
    pickle
    conch

    If you could tell us the origins that would be awesome =)

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Is every thing ok Miss M. Your running a little late today. :???:

  • grondor

    i would like to request colonization, also i was wondering if it had any ties to columbus who’s name pronounced in spanish is colonbus.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Your not wrong Kb, its like Alx said who is to say which one is the right or wrong spelling. As long as the word is understood and people know what you are saying. :grin:

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    no I haven’t et nothing yet :lol: :lol:

  • http://www.flamesoldier.com roadrunrnch

    Hey,,,,, Cheep skates
    Has anyone send Teacher

    ?Poison by Chris Dior?

    Cheep Skate there is a good phrase for the teacher to discuss
    Skin Flint
    Tight Wad
    Jew :lol: playing……!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    hello!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Is youtube down for anyone else ATM?

  • http://emmy-de-zelaware.com lividemerald

    Il y a de fortes raisons pour justifier cette remarque.

  • http://emmy-de-zelaware.com lividemerald

    Well, it’s not pronounced like 40, anyway.

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com aLx

    no.

  • http://emmy-de-zelaware.com lividemerald

    As in Bill Zany, or Billy Zane?

  • tab

    Hey Marina, I was wondering what’s so anal about an analysis?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    It seems to work ok for me in opera

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Thats not very nice..

  • wetsuit5

    HotForWords must have a new secret rule. :oops: :???: :idea:
    No more lessons till we all do 10 crunches. :eek: :mad: :eek:

    Grrrrrunt 1
    Grrrrrunt 2 …

    Grrrrrunt 10

    OK for the new lesson, after my recovery nap… :cool:

  • http://www.flamesoldier.com roadrunrnch

    Why?
    I sent her some LA perfume. Crystal :roll:
    The site I put in my earlier post is a great all in one site to buy and send perfume. I am curious if anyone did? That’s all..

    Hey Marina have you checked out the new link on my site to your site?.Look Here
    Look in my News page. Hope you like the picture I used, Let me know if not. :)

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/foxbow15 foxbow15

    she logged in recently, so don’t worry :wink:

  • walnutridgeproductions

    I would love to see the word, Vodka! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Here you go Walnutridgeproductions. It is listed in the Word / Lesson videos that she has already done. :smile:

    Vodka

  • josephmscher

    Hi Marina sweetheart. You are the sweetest sexiest russian babe i know.

  • http://18wheels.mevio.com/ Warren

    This F5- ing is Ka-Razy! I’m off to work and I waited sooo long to be first on the Karate show. Dang it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    When Is The New Video Coming Up

  • dubmnky

    can u plz find out where the word shampoo originated. thx =)

  • danielpool52

    its no you tube

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Its been on there for a while.. Wonder when it will be posted here

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com aLx

    how many do you know?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Partnership turned down again

    4th application

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/captainjack63 CaptainJack

    Im wondering the same thing. Must be a technical issue or Marina had to step out of the office.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    YT has messed up for me.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    0

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/captainjack63 CaptainJack

    What where you thinking. :roll: Of course they did. Did you read the instructions? :shock:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    They said I don’t have enough views.. Buggers there are partners with half the views of my videos.. And I am always on the honours list. :evil:

  • danielpool52

    marina is still at her karate class

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Marina what are you doing to me :?: :?: When I go on your channel it says video not avalible then it messes everything on youtube for youtube. I can’t do anything at all. for about 10 mins

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jamesingtonthethird James

    Do you have the power to put the new vid up

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Everyone is waiting for this karate video like new pair of shoes coming out. :smile:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/captainjack63 CaptainJack

    That and about 100 video uploads. The reason is no advertiser is going to spend big buck if you only have a few viewers. Also if they where to pay you right now you would get about .00000001 cents from the hits. Its just not worth their time. Wait until you break 1,000 views a month on one of your videos and resubmit your application. Advertisers want traffic. It took Marina some time for her app to be accepted.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/captainjack63 CaptainJack

    Hum.. let me think about that. Oh yep I do.. heheh Wow.. I didn’t think about that. Well if she wanted me to she could have called me or emailed me to do so. She will get it up soon. I myself have my comments all type out and ready to post. I have class in about 20 minutes so I might not be able to comment until after 10:30 pm PST. :sad:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Heck, if the video isn’t up here yet, I’ll start the homework already for extra credit.

    Homework: My favorite martial arts is muai thai because I like using my elbows and knees during a fight. :grin:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/captainjack63 CaptainJack

    YT is having lots of trouble today. I can’t even comment on my own page.

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    That should be interesting. :shock:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/captainjack63 CaptainJack

    You Tube

    There was an error processing your comment. Please try again.

  • celebornmars

    Tout comme il existe divers griefs à son encontre :mrgreen:

  • stokesjrj1
  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Well there’s Anna Kournikova, she basically made Tennis have the “No-Sexy” rule. Haha. Of course Marina would then instate many other rules if she were in Tennis let alone any other sport. :mrgreen:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    What exactly do you do on your website? :shock:

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/captainjack63 CaptainJack

    You kidding me? Like I really care about shoes. Oh wait. I guess I do. Now I sound like a girl. My manliness is eroding away. Oh what was the word? Pussysomethingorrather. “Damn it Jim Im doctor not brick layer!” McCoy.

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Heyyy

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/captainjack63 CaptainJack

    What the hell Stokes? Are you drunk?

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Bruce Lee is turnin in his grave. :eek:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    I want one.

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Uhm, Wha?

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com aLx

    comments work just fine …

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Uhm McCoy? Sorry I like to stay in style.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/captainjack63 CaptainJack

    Ok this is so weird. For the past day, Rick and I are chatting about our experience in Karate. This is just weird that Marina did a video on the subject at the same time we where talking about it. Rick even mentioned that Marina talked about Karate in an earlier post. Well gang I have to go to class. I can’t wait any longer. :sad:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Get those perfect pushups, those really cut you. :shock:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    What’s your gravatar?

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    :???:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Yep me too, out to play basketball! Someone save me a comment spot!

  • danielpool52

    :?: do you know what Bruce lee sons name was i can’t remember

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com aLx

    brandon.

  • danielpool52

    thank you alx

  • moobi

    I’ve only ever heard it pronounced “for-TAY”.

    Anyways, welcome to my first post on your sight, Marina! :cool:

    I would like to request that you enlighten us on the word “allelomimetic”, as in the “allelomimetic behavior”.

    I also want to thank you for teaching me the word floccinaucinihilipilification. Antidisestablishmentarianism was previously the longest word I knew, and I’m always pretty psyched to upgrade.

    Woot! (Actually, that’s another good word to investigate.)

  • buzzword

    cappy this is his m.o. that and using sock puppets. must make sense on his side of the looking glass.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    McCoy from Star Trek. With Captain Kirk. Kirk would always call him bones.

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    There is Oksana Baiul in her younger days. She was pretty :smile:

  • codyg123

    Hotforwords, i would like to know the origin of the word “bologna”. Please Investigate! =]

  • eulogic

    hotforwords please investigate the word GEEZER and why does it refer to an old person?

  • stokesjrj1

    No cap just waterlogged.

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: Yep! Now I can really go back to sleep!!

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: And thank you-whoever and where ever you are.

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: That’s great! Let us all take a nap-yawn!!

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: Hey! I’m from planet Earth and I’m going to go to a movie and forget all about this silly stuff!!

  • stokesjrj1
  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: She had to stop and take a nap!

  • danielpool52

    on :oops:

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: That does it! Nobody is to worry-today or ever!! Got it?

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: Karate? Isn’t that a new country that we are giving lots of foreign aid to. I heard that we are sending troops there as a military package. Their base of operations will be high on a mountain known as “High Karate”. Either that or I have been watching too much TV lately.
    Oh,boy!!

  • http://mentalgrammarhasbeensetup.blogspot.com aLx

    you suck. go away.

  • http://FantasticDougsSpace 2utoday

    :mrgreen: You’re just jealous-ha-ha!!

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Looks like two people kissing :???:

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Remember she is a vampire. She is 300 years old. :smile:

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    No that is all that had them James. Remember she stopped it after Foxbow asked for one and she said it was getting out of hand. Just us 4 plus Jack.

  • barnkat36

    Good Day My Hot Teacher Lady , I think your right, it’s forte’ duh :!: Becaues fort is where you go for protection from your enemies. :roll: For a word how bout – forkitover – You know like ; Hey you, if you have my dictionary you better forkitover :!:
    Hello Everyone else also, JonX0X0

  • http://calling-muggins.blogspot.com/ muggins

    Precisely, dezdkado, why risk a possible confusion? Even if the mind
    has to ponder for only a second to guess at the best meaning within the context, it’s much smoother not have to work that out and instead continue listening to the conversation. I might just add that the Italian word, forte, means ‘loud’, and so we are choosing to lay a small burden on the Italians who speak English to have to hash out which is which…’loud’ or ‘strong point’?…that is the task we lay on our Italian friends. Maybe we can spread the word not to use ‘forte’ when there are Italians involved. It’s the least we can do.

  • duke veritas

    That’s what I came up with too–from the SAME source even!! :mrgreen: Although several dictionaries provided the same basic information, I liked the Merriam-Webster best :smile:

    So, that means everyone’s right, both are accepted and understood as “strength”, as long as the USA people AREN’T talking about a military building!! :razz:

  • duke veritas

    RRR, you’re so politically incorrect when you’re annoyed :wink:

    Glad the boy is into his sports, though!

  • howard56

    Hello Marina,
    I would like to know the origins of the word “Boondoggle”. In some ways this tem appears to be a lifestyle choice for some people :-(
    I think you are adorable and keep up the good work. I could not agree more, Intelligence is sexy.
    Howard56

  • parthenophilast

    If you want to be a purist, then go for “fOrt,” “fOr,” or even “fOr-tis,” but I say languages change over time, so deal with it and just go with whatever’s most popular (as long as it doesn’t lower your standing in society). So, catch the wave and say for-TAY (obviously, I caught the one from the 80′s).

  • josephmscher

    I live near brighton beach, you do the math!

  • ectoplasm4

    its pronnounced fort

    fort-ay is a term in music meaning loud

  • matalexwolf

    fort-ay, isn’t it? Eight sit ups there M, dam, and you look so hot for so little work out :grin:

  • fianchetto1

    It’s an image of me kissing a girlfriend. Probably too small to tell….me on the right, she on the left, I was holding the camera in my outstretched arm while we kissed :smile:

  • http://invisiblestripes.blogspot.com/ protac6

    Cute.

  • kaibanator

    For me, pronouncing forte as fort-ay would be easier. Mainly because if you’re trying to describe your forte and pronounce it as fort, people might confuse it for a castle or something :lol:

    Jya mata ne :cool:

  • davecodave

    Isn’t “Forte’ ” how one might discribe something that he or she is good at? Not just a hobby or a chore but something that they excell at?

  • http://www.google.com/ Capman911

    Yes your right Dave. :wink: I was being short with my answer on that one. I had to go make water so I just threw down a quick answer. :lol:

  • whocoulditbe

    I think that it might be fort, because, in french you would pronounce forte more like fort. Anyway I like your videos :smile:

  • nw2394

    I have only ever heard it pronounced “fortay”. I don’t know where this “fort” business comes from.

    Nick

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DPS670950 melikadothechacha

    Marina on the carpet… yeah, babay! :mrgreen:
    Exercising alone like that can be dangerous…
    I’d love to be your personal trainer :mrgreen:
    “Work it! Push harder!” LOL! :smile:

  • blueskies13

    i useally do not comment on how good you look becouse it is obvious but your yellow out fit while you were doing your workout wow you are really in shape and very beutifull sorry i have been gone for a few day but that damn hurricain past hear and we are going to have an other one wish me luck i would hat to die in one of those horrible storms

  • blueskies13

    and again my birthday is coming up this month on the 27th will i get a card?

  • BillyB

    The dog’s name is Wendy, from our city, Victoria. She is a Whippet with a myostatin deficiency. She has a normal friendly disposition, just scary looking. Check out the kid on the linked page, doing olympic style “Iron cross” moves at 5 months

  • cunnivore

    No doubt “fortay” arose (a) to show off that you know it’s French, and (b) to distinguish forte from fort — although it’s hard to think of too many sentences in which the two words might be confused. (Here’s one: Apache was his fort ie “He was stationed at Fort Apache”; Apache was his forte ie “His expertise in the Apache language was his strong point”.)

    I’ve even seen it spelled “forté” once or twice, which is sad.

    So I think the deal is this: If you want to impress people who don’t know French, then say “fortay”. But if you want to impress people who do know French, then say “fort”.

    In a similar way, most Americans now pronounce route the same as rout — presumably to distinguish it from root, which is a commoner word than rout.

    We can even see the same thing in words that have nothing to do with French:

    Lie (“recline”) and lay (“set down”) have been two different words for a thousand years; but over the last generation or two, most Americans have begun saying lay (as in, “he was laying on the floor”) when they mean lie.

    Why is this? Well my guess is that they’re trying to distinguish lie (“recline”) from lie (“tell an untruth”), which is another word entirely. (And no, I’m not casting aspersions on Americans. For all I know, this may be going on in England as well, and I just don’t know about it.)

    “Fortáy” reminds me of valet. I have always pronounced this word so that it rhymes with mallet or palate. I don’t know why: I guess that’s just how I learned it; and anyway my 1984 dictionary agrees. But now I only hear “valláy” — and people look at me funny when I say “vállet”.

    So why is this? Well, I suspect it’s because it sounds fancier to have a “valláy” than than “vállet”. Just a guess.

  • http://www.kennedyinnovations.com cgijoe

    Marina,

    I hate to correct the teacher, but I just watched this wonderful work on the word Forte and I noticed that you posted the word “Situps” while you were actually doing “crunches”…

    Normally I wouldn’t say anything, but as this is a class about the meaning of words, I had to mention it…. :mrgreen:

    All the best

    -j

  • tabatacash

    Just to add one thing to Cunnivore ( I prefere not to translate from french to enlish your name…) It is “FORT” but in french you do not pronounce the T.

    In other words it means that you are strong in a discipline …as in french: “tu es fort en..” or when you say in french ” les abdominos c’est le fort de Marina”…

    byee

  • http://www.hotforwords.com Marina

    You must know karate! ‘Cause your body is kicking! (bad pickup lines!)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack_Richards/1065965276 CaptainJack

    My dear, you must been half awake when you replied to my comment. :wink: No part of my comment was even close to a pickup line. My comment was directed to the students. Which in not way I was trying to pickup on. :roll:
    Or maybe my Engrish or Taglish confused you. :smile: I’ll try harder at making my comments in Runglish language for you to better understand my thinking. :razz: :mrgreen:

  • louie

    Dear Marina,

    I wanted to post to your “My Strong Point” lesson but I could not find it here.

    Forgive me but while there may be words that you can find in the OED, like “nounize,” the support for the origin of such words often comes down to poetic license. See, e.g., the reference to Shakespeare’s Henry IV. I guess I am something of purist when it comes to regular discourse or prose, and I do not easily accept poetic fabrications in the these contexts, especially when there are other normal words that can do the job. Otherwise any clever person can just come up with a new fancy shmancy word and say it’s a word. Like so — I want to express a woman’s beautiful blue eyes and how they make me feel so I say they are “celestially” or that I dive into their “bleauty.”

  • mike gabbert

    Forte, pronounced “fort,” means one’s strength. It comes from a fencing term describing the blade or shaft of the epee. The part from the base or handle to the midpoint is the forte, or strong part of the blade. The flimsier part from the midpoint to the tip is the foible, or weak part of the blade. We use forte (fort) to describe our strong characteristics just as we describe the strong part of the epee. By the way, our foible is also the weak part of our character. Foible also gives us feeble.

    Forte, pronounced “for-tay,” is a musical term meaning to play loudly. It is the opposite of piano which means to play softly. The musical instrument, the piano, got its name from being able to play both softly and loudly; it was called the piano forte, later shortened to piano. These terms like so many in the music lexicon are Italian. Before the piano other keyboard instruments like the harpsichord could only play at one level of volume.

  • leonard

    You are soul bright; it must run in the family. My fort is old and is filled with forte. Kulaks make hay before the thunder walzed; many times passed and order filled the organized promise of all faith of love. :oops: I did the “Fathers and Sons”…I cry for Bazarov and all his “Forte’”

  • cheddarblanca

    It is forte

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AMUM3OLJXZ4BXUJE45C7ZICU2Y Herb

    Never mind that. I noticed the dog actually threw the ball by sharply jerking his head and then releasing the ball. That is astounding!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AMUM3OLJXZ4BXUJE45C7ZICU2Y Herb

    Never mind that. Watch the dog actually throw the ball. He did this by jerking his head and then releasing the ball. Amazing!

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