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		<title>By: leonard</title>
		<link>http://hotforwords.com/2008/07/04/phoney/#comment-163075</link>
		<dc:creator>leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random and phone me...the cat in the bag :cry:  :lol:  :o &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2kO_5cNF5k&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Three Card Monte Street Hustle
&lt;/a&gt;***** :roll: *****&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd9e5FIl2mk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Proposition bet. How To Get Free Drinks 
&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;b&gt;[hustle]&lt;/b&gt;...July was HotForWords, thank-you...&lt;b&gt;fAke]&lt;/b&gt;...First day of the next 3 months called [WINTER], before [SPRING} :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random and phone me&#8230;the cat in the bag :cry:  :lol:  :o <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2kO_5cNF5k" rel="nofollow">Three Card Monte Street Hustle<br />
</a>***** :roll: *****<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd9e5FIl2mk" rel="nofollow">Proposition bet. How To Get Free Drinks<br />
</a>&#8230;<b>[hustle]</b>&#8230;July was HotForWords, thank-you&#8230;<b>fAke]</b>&#8230;First day of the next 3 months called [WINTER], before [SPRING} :smile:</p>
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		<title>By: leonard</title>
		<link>http://hotforwords.com/2008/07/04/phoney/#comment-134776</link>
		<dc:creator>leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi back...back with a hi :smile: dean, john b. good. :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi back&#8230;back with a hi :smile: dean, john b. good. :lol:</p>
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		<title>By: leonard</title>
		<link>http://hotforwords.com/2008/07/04/phoney/#comment-121031</link>
		<dc:creator>leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soul smart :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>soul smart :smile:</p>
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		<title>By: leonard</title>
		<link>http://hotforwords.com/2008/07/04/phoney/#comment-121030</link>
		<dc:creator>leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have nuts? :cool: Quote
&quot;Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.&quot; - Antoine de Saint Exupery ...do you T.A.&#039;s pick the HOTforWords quotes? :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have nuts? :cool: Quote<br />
&#8220;Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.&#8221; &#8211; Antoine de Saint Exupery &#8230;do you T.A.&#8217;s pick the HOTforWords quotes? :lol:</p>
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		<title>By: moshimoshi</title>
		<link>http://hotforwords.com/2008/07/04/phoney/#comment-84776</link>
		<dc:creator>moshimoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your love of words :)  But I think you&#039;ve jumped the gun with this one.  Faux is the more likely precursor of phoney.  &#039;That&#039;s terribly faux&#039; (as people indeed used to say) becomes &#039;that&#039;s terribly phoney&#039;.  The fawney-rig idea is colourful and memorable but it&#039;s folk etymology and unlikely.  When you think about it, it doesn&#039;t make much sense that a cant word (criminal slang) would be widely known.  Cant is meant to be code.  It also doesn&#039;t make sense that it would reappear in a new spelling in a new country over a century later with nothing in between.  There&#039;s no occurrence of fawney being used to mean fake in general, it only describes this type of fraud in a very limited setting.  All the references to this etymology in dictionaries are prefaced with &#039;possibly&#039;.  Generally if the etymology involves an entertaining story, someone&#039;s just made it up.  Faux on the other hand does simply mean fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your love of words :)  But I think you&#8217;ve jumped the gun with this one.  Faux is the more likely precursor of phoney.  &#8216;That&#8217;s terribly faux&#8217; (as people indeed used to say) becomes &#8216;that&#8217;s terribly phoney&#8217;.  The fawney-rig idea is colourful and memorable but it&#8217;s folk etymology and unlikely.  When you think about it, it doesn&#8217;t make much sense that a cant word (criminal slang) would be widely known.  Cant is meant to be code.  It also doesn&#8217;t make sense that it would reappear in a new spelling in a new country over a century later with nothing in between.  There&#8217;s no occurrence of fawney being used to mean fake in general, it only describes this type of fraud in a very limited setting.  All the references to this etymology in dictionaries are prefaced with &#8216;possibly&#8217;.  Generally if the etymology involves an entertaining story, someone&#8217;s just made it up.  Faux on the other hand does simply mean fake.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://hotforwords.com/2008/07/04/phoney/#comment-64193</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHAHA Marina said fanny... tee-hee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHA Marina said fanny&#8230; tee-hee</p>
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		<title>By: leonard</title>
		<link>http://hotforwords.com/2008/07/04/phoney/#comment-50932</link>
		<dc:creator>leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 04:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random lesson---i thought a person that talks to much on a telephone was a phoney?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random lesson&#8212;i thought a person that talks to much on a telephone was a phoney?</p>
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		<title>By: lividemerald</title>
		<link>http://hotforwords.com/2008/07/04/phoney/#comment-48899</link>
		<dc:creator>lividemerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A phoney thing happened on the way to the phorum.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A phoney thing happened on the way to the phorum&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: school_dean_hot4.u</title>
		<link>http://hotforwords.com/2008/07/04/phoney/#comment-45719</link>
		<dc:creator>school_dean_hot4.u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi</p>
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		<title>By: stokesjrj1</title>
		<link>http://hotforwords.com/2008/07/04/phoney/#comment-45035</link>
		<dc:creator>stokesjrj1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poor attitude</description>
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