Comments on: I am on G4TV Tonight! 7PM EST/PST on Attack of the Show http://hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/ Marina Orlova - Not your typical philologist. Etymology, philology, word origins, origin of, hot teacher. Tue, 22 May 2012 14:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: BillyB http://hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4718 BillyB Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:54:01 +0000 http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4718 I'll be brief, yah right, if you just take the english, & thats the only language I can trip myself up in and most people here read & the translators translate to for us. verse 14 of John 1 pulls together the whole of Johns book "The word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." NIV. John I think was the only disciple not to be martyred so he had along time to think about his experiences, none the less being a fisherman by trade and not a trained theologin or philosopher, he had to have been divinely inspired to write words so pregnant with meaning and simple enough for us common folks. The two words "grace" & "truth" taken on their own are diametrically opposed, but in the Jesus of Johns book balanced to perfection are the atributes that attracted the common folks of his day & since to Him. Extremeism & other 'isms obscure the simplicity of Johns statements. And thus in order to be brief I must stop there & go home for dinner. Cheers BTW cool fonts, I don't know where to get a keyboard with those ones on 'em. I’ll be brief, yah right, if you just take the english, & thats the only language I can trip myself up in and most people here read & the translators translate to for us. verse 14 of John 1 pulls together the whole of Johns book “The word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.” NIV. John I think was the only disciple not to be martyred so he had along time to think about his experiences, none the less being a fisherman by trade and not a trained theologin or philosopher, he had to have been divinely inspired to write words so pregnant with meaning and simple enough for us common folks. The two words “grace” & “truth” taken on their own are diametrically opposed, but in the Jesus of Johns book balanced to perfection are the atributes that attracted the common folks of his day & since to Him. Extremeism & other ‘isms obscure the simplicity of Johns statements. And thus in order to be brief I must stop there & go home for dinner. Cheers
BTW cool fonts, I don’t know where to get a keyboard with those ones on ‘em.

]]> By: rhoadess http://hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4569 rhoadess Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:34:14 +0000 http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4569 Hi Billy Remember in Genesis Eloheem said, let us make man in our image, now take that and apply it to John 1:1, I wonder what it would say in Hebrew? Perhaps this is a good question for our trusty sexy intelligent Russian teacher :oops: since she knows the Greek and can look into the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint" rel="nofollow">Greek Septuagint</a> to compare the Greek words that were translated by the 72 elders from Hebrew to Greek, she can render the words used for god in John 1:1 ( the first use is θεον <i>theh'-on  </i>the second use is θεος <i>theh'-os</i> )  into Hebrew. Would it say, <blockquote> John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Eloheem, and the Word was Eloheem. </blockquote> or something like that, <a href="http://www.forananswer.org/John/Jn1_1.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a> is a very good link I found, and within it, it says the following: <blockquote> There is a third option:  Qualitative.  Qualitative nouns occur in sentences like John 1:1c throughout the NT.  They signify neither definiteness ("the God"), nor indefiniteness ("a god"), but rather attribute all the qualities or attributes of the noun to the subject of the sentence.  If "God" is qualitative, here, it means that all the attributes or qualities of God - the same God mentioned in the previous clause - belong to the Son. </blockquote> One thing I like to do, is make up a verse I call Sean 1:1, (my name actually means John in Irish) and use Eloheem's created image, Adam to show the relationship between the Father and the Son. <blockquote> Sean 1:1 In the beginning of all mankind was the Woman, and the Woman was with Adam (in the singular sense), and the Woman was Adam (in the sense that she came out from him, and therefore retained all his qualities). (see Gen 5:2) </blockquote> I wonder if you'll be able to see the Greek Font? By the way, in Genesis both thehon, and thehos are used for Eloheem, ... Hi Billy
Remember in Genesis Eloheem said, let us make man in our image, now take that
and apply it to John 1:1, I wonder what it would say in Hebrew? Perhaps this is
a good question for our trusty sexy intelligent Russian teacher :oops: since she
knows the Greek and can look into the
Greek Septuagint to
compare the Greek words that were translated by the 72 elders from Hebrew to
Greek, she can render the words used for god in John 1:1 ( the first use is θεον
theh’-on  the second use is
θεος theh’-os
)
 into Hebrew. Would it
say,

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with
Eloheem, and the Word was Eloheem.

or something like that,
here is a very good link
I found, and within it, it says the following:

There is a third option:  Qualitative.  Qualitative nouns occur
in sentences like John 1:1c throughout the NT.  They signify neither
definiteness ("the God"), nor indefiniteness ("a god"), but rather attribute
all the qualities or attributes of the noun to the subject of the sentence. 
If "God" is qualitative, here, it means that all the attributes or qualities
of God – the same God mentioned in the previous clause – belong to the Son.

One thing I like to do, is make up a verse I call Sean 1:1, (my
name actually means John in Irish) and use Eloheem’s created image, Adam to show
the relationship between the Father and the Son.

Sean 1:1 In the beginning of all mankind was the Woman, and the
Woman was with Adam (in the singular sense), and the Woman was Adam (in the
sense that she came out from him, and therefore retained all his qualities).
(see Gen 5:2)

I wonder if you’ll be able to see the Greek Font? By the way, in Genesis both
thehon, and thehos are used for Eloheem, …

]]> By: BillyB http://hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4518 BillyB Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:41:07 +0000 http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4518 Actually "Buzzword" launched into the first chapter of the gospel of John in one of his comments "In the begining was the word..." Words, thats probbably why we're atracted to Marina, nnott... its 'cause she's so Hawt & cute & stuff. But why we come back is a different story. She attracts a diverse assortment of folks. Some are pretty funny others of us way serious sometimes. I do know that Jesus didn't come to establish a religion, the religious folks had him crucified & if they had their druthers they'd a shut up the disciples too. most were martyrd later anyways. We find the definition of pure religion in the Book of James and it has nothing to do with rituals or rites or practices to please God. Man that's to much pressure, If I could understand God I would be God. Anyhow its late and I'm rambling on, Marina may send me an invoice for using up so many bytes of space. She has my email y'know. G'nite Actually “Buzzword” launched into the first chapter of the gospel of John in one of his comments “In the begining was the word…” Words, thats probbably why we’re atracted to Marina, nnott… its ’cause she’s so Hawt & cute & stuff. But why we come back is a different story. She attracts a diverse assortment of folks. Some are pretty funny others of us way serious sometimes. I do know that Jesus didn’t come to establish a religion, the religious folks had him crucified & if they had their druthers they’d a shut up the disciples too. most were martyrd later anyways. We find the definition of pure religion in the Book of James and it has nothing to do with rituals or rites or practices to please God. Man that’s to much pressure, If I could understand God I would be God. Anyhow its late and I’m rambling on, Marina may send me an invoice for using up so many bytes of space. She has my email y’know. G’nite

]]> By: rhoadess http://hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4410 rhoadess Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:17:06 +0000 http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4410 Hi Billy I am not sure if you can see my profile, it says that my beliefs are probably closest to that of the Greek Orthodox church, and the reason is , I have read the early Church Fathers, and agree with them, at least the first and second century Church Fathers, as does the Greek Orthodox Church. The problem is that even the Greek Orthodox would consider me a heretic :neutral: but they would also have to consider one of my favorite Church Fathers a heretic too, as he not only asserts that Jesus is God, he also proves, from scripture, that he is created by the un-begotten God, something people today consider heresy. http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ecf/001/0010522.htm But I try to keep my doctrines inline with the Scriptures, (which includes the Apocrypha) rather than inline with what large groups of people impose, and some of my beliefs may align with various other denominations, and some my not. I guess you could call me a Generic Christian :grin: (see Luke 9:49-50) I do not have a problem with any of the other denominations, in that everyone considers everyone who is not with them a heretic, and this is not how we are to treat others. People get pretty nasty with each other, because of this. And yes some denominations are really doing this to keep their sheep's money flowing to them alone, others do it to protect their flock, as the Bible teaches us to do, and so religion becomes like a trap in that sense too. Because if one's group happens to believe something that is not inline with the scriptures, one is stuck with that group and what they teach, unless one doesn't mind getting persecuted, or shunned. So I am not going to be trapped by groups of people, but only bounded by what the Scriptures say, on a logical basis. Now, regarding the LAW, if one were to live strictly by it, most would consider a Christian's belief, that Jesus is God, as Idol worship too, but Christians have tried to fix this problem by saying that there is this kind of God-head, made up of three, with various definitions. For me I just accept the scriptures for what they say, and imply. To me the scriptures clearly say that Jesus is God, but they also say that Jesus has a God and Father, who begot him. The scriptures show that they both share the same names, and attributes but that the begotten God, is in subjection to the un-begotten God. So there is the one and only un-begotten God, and there is the one and only begotten God, and the two are one God, in the same way Adam and Eve are one Adam, (flesh and bone). Read my comment above to alx. Regarding the Holy Spirit, I am not sure how to define it, but I do know the scriptures also say he is God, and is now in subjection to the only begotten God. So now the goal is, for one to go into the LAW and the prophets, and show that this is the case there too, and from what I have seen, so far, it is. On Eve (Chavvah) , yes she is the mother of all living, but it means lifegiver too. I didn't know it also meant nurturer , I am using Strong's from www.e-sword.net Eve is a shadow of "The Life" :idea: Hi Billy
I am not sure if you can see my profile, it says that my beliefs are probably closest to that of the Greek Orthodox church, and the reason is , I have read the early Church Fathers, and agree with them, at least the first and second century Church Fathers, as does the Greek Orthodox Church. The problem is that even the Greek Orthodox would consider me a heretic :neutral: but they would also have to consider one of my favorite Church Fathers a heretic too, as he not only asserts that Jesus is God, he also proves, from scripture, that he is created by the un-begotten God, something people today consider heresy. http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ecf/001/0010522.htm
But I try to keep my doctrines inline with the Scriptures, (which includes the Apocrypha) rather than inline with what large groups of people impose, and some of my beliefs may align with various other denominations, and some my not. I guess you could call me a Generic Christian :grin: (see Luke 9:49-50)
I do not have a problem with any of the other denominations, in that everyone considers everyone who is not with them a heretic, and this is not how we are to treat others. People get pretty nasty with each other, because of this. And yes some denominations are really doing this to keep their sheep’s money flowing to them alone, others do it to protect their flock, as the Bible teaches us to do, and so religion becomes like a trap in that sense too. Because if one’s group happens to believe something that is not inline with the scriptures, one is stuck with that group and what they teach, unless one doesn’t mind getting persecuted, or shunned. So I am not going to be trapped by groups of people, but only bounded by what the Scriptures say, on a logical basis.
Now, regarding the LAW, if one were to live strictly by it, most would consider a Christian’s belief, that Jesus is God, as Idol worship too, but Christians have tried to fix this problem by saying that there is this kind of God-head, made up of three, with various definitions. For me I just accept the scriptures for what they say, and imply. To me the scriptures clearly say that Jesus is God, but they also say that Jesus has a God and Father, who begot him. The scriptures show that they both share the same names, and attributes but that the begotten God, is in subjection to the un-begotten God. So there is the one and only un-begotten God, and there is the one and only begotten God, and the two are one God, in the same way Adam and Eve are one Adam, (flesh and bone). Read my comment above to alx. Regarding the Holy Spirit, I am not sure how to define it, but I do know the scriptures also say he is God, and is now in subjection to the only begotten God. So now the goal is, for one to go into the LAW and the prophets, and show that this is the case there too, and from what I have seen, so far, it is.
On Eve (Chavvah) , yes she is the mother of all living, but it means lifegiver too. I didn’t know it also meant nurturer , I am using Strong’s from http://www.e-sword.net Eve is a shadow of “The Life” :idea:

]]> By: alx http://hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4293 alx Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:58:34 +0000 http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4293 so, hitman, can you <a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_yc6lB765bQY/RyckODNkFKI/AAAAAAAABXw/Ya8kecGEfIk/s1600-h/2690630.jpg" rel="nofollow">show me around</a> in your hometown? looks like <a href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_yc6lB765bQY/R1V9JoTea0I/AAAAAAAABjU/TtcvKBoke_M/s1600-h/img72006.jpg" rel="nofollow">fun</a>. <a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_yc6lB765bQY/RyckzDNkFNI/AAAAAAAABYI/R9vD2XmoERQ/s1600-h/2683074.jpg" rel="nofollow">definitely</a>. <a href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_yc6lB765bQY/RfkfAJqAGlI/AAAAAAAAAD8/LQZWreSX83Y/s1600-h/dyagdance2.jpg" rel="nofollow">uh huh</a>. so, hitman,

can you show me around in your hometown? looks like fun. definitely. uh huh.

]]> By: tdwnarrows http://hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4270 tdwnarrows Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:55:53 +0000 http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4270 This is the 15th an im just now getting this email.?Im so glade you put the show on your website.I thought it was a great.keep up the hard work Marina.. This is the 15th an im just now getting this email.?Im so glade you put the show on your website.I thought it was a great.keep up the hard work Marina..

]]> By: BillyB http://hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4260 BillyB Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:39:31 +0000 http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4260 I grew up in a bible beleaving church & was always fascinated by how poorly english treated translations from origional languages. Names for God for instance, I understand that the Israelites had different names for the one God according to what God did or meant to them and that the fear of using Gods name, "YHWH", wrongly brought the curse of the third comandment on them. Combining the names of God as in Genisis 2:4 Jehovah Elohim is the ultimate, translated Lord God into english, seems to lose a little punch doesn't it. Still it hints at a bit more to be revealed to arouse curiosity and further study. I'm no scholar by any means but I don't think the Idea of God as reffered to In Genisis in the plural refers to more than one deity because it would fly in the face of Exodus chpt. 20. Anyways don't want to use up all Marina's web bytes or whatever getting into a theological discussion. But I can't help but be curious about the story of the tower of babel and the what ifs of a pure universal language. Would we be great communicators or Kill off the human race altogether. I thought "Eve" translates as a nurturer to "The mother of all living" Question that i asked too was "Did Adam and Eve have bellybuttons?" I grew up in a bible beleaving church & was always fascinated by how poorly english treated translations from origional languages. Names for God for instance, I understand that the Israelites had different names for the one God according to what God did or meant to them and that the fear of using Gods name, “YHWH”, wrongly brought the curse of the third comandment on them. Combining the names of God as in Genisis 2:4 Jehovah Elohim is the ultimate, translated Lord God into english, seems to lose a little punch doesn’t it. Still it hints at a bit more to be revealed to arouse curiosity and further study.
I’m no scholar by any means but I don’t think the Idea of God as reffered to In Genisis in the plural refers to more than one deity because it would fly in the face of Exodus chpt. 20.
Anyways don’t want to use up all Marina’s web bytes or whatever getting into a theological discussion. But I can’t help but be curious about the story of the tower of babel and the what ifs of a pure universal language. Would we be great communicators or Kill off the human race altogether.
I thought “Eve” translates as a nurturer to “The mother of all living”
Question that i asked too was “Did Adam and Eve have bellybuttons?”

]]> By: rhoadess http://hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4249 rhoadess Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:37:16 +0000 http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4249 Yes you can figure those things out, and we know Eloheem is a noun, but sometimes it is plural and at other times it can be singular, also it can be masculine or feminine, and it is not always so easy to know when, unless one assumes. For example in Genesis, in some places upon reading about Adam (which can be the first male, or mankind, or both the male and female) one wonders which meaning is intended. Now there are pronouns that "appear" to help us figure this out, as is seen in Genesis 5:2 both male and female make up Adam, and when we see Adam all alone in Genesis 2 without a wife, we can pretty much say that Adam must refer to the individual male, or when he name's his wife Eve, we know Adam there refers to the first male. Let's look at the following, and I'll put some comments in parentheses to help show what I am talking about Genesis 1:26-27 And God (Eloheem must refer to only one of at least two deities from the pronoun "us" as only one can be talking to the other/s) said, Let us make man ( = Adam and refers to both the male and female) in our image, after our likeness: ... 27 So God (Eloheem refers to at least two deities from the previous pronoun "us" but might seem to refer to only one of those deities from the following pronoun "his") created man (Adam, refers to both male and female) in his own image, in the image of God (Eloheem here seems to imply only one of the plural deities because of the pronoun he, but remember at least two deities are creating, so although the pronoun "he" is used, it would not follow if only one were doing the creating) created he him (it would probably be safe to assume that here "him" refers to the male alone before the female came into existence, but doesn't have to be just the male alone, in light of the plurality of Eloheem in the creation process when a singular pronoun is used); male and female created he them (and this last pronoun "them" illustrates my point that the pronoun "him" may really refer to both the male and female, and is a kind of extrapolation to help us see the dual nature of two individuals acting as a unit). Just a little side note: I believe Adam was inspired to give his wife the name Eve, do you know what Eve means? Yes you can figure those things out, and we know Eloheem is a noun, but sometimes it is plural and at other times it can be singular, also it can be masculine or feminine, and it is not always so easy to know when, unless one assumes. For example in Genesis, in some places upon reading about Adam (which can be the first male, or mankind, or both the male and female) one wonders which meaning is intended. Now there are pronouns that “appear” to help us figure this out, as is seen in Genesis 5:2 both male and female make up Adam, and when we see Adam all alone in Genesis 2 without a wife, we can pretty much say that Adam must refer to the individual male, or when he name’s his wife Eve, we know Adam there refers to the first male. Let’s look at the following, and I’ll put some comments in parentheses to help show what I am talking about

Genesis 1:26-27 And God (Eloheem must refer to only one of at least two deities from the pronoun “us” as only one can be talking to the other/s) said, Let us make man ( = Adam and refers to both the male and female) in our image, after our likeness: … 27 So God (Eloheem refers to at least two deities from the previous pronoun “us” but might seem to refer to only one of those deities from the following pronoun “his”) created man (Adam, refers to both male and female) in his own image, in the image of God (Eloheem here seems to imply only one of the plural deities because of the pronoun he, but remember at least two deities are creating, so although the pronoun “he” is used, it would not follow if only one were doing the creating) created he him (it would probably be safe to assume that here “him” refers to the male alone before the female came into existence, but doesn’t have to be just the male alone, in light of the plurality of Eloheem in the creation process when a singular pronoun is used); male and female created he them (and this last pronoun “them” illustrates my point that the pronoun “him” may really refer to both the male and female, and is a kind of extrapolation to help us see the dual nature of two individuals acting as a unit).

Just a little side note: I believe Adam was inspired to give his wife the name Eve, do you know what Eve means?

]]> By: alx http://hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4243 alx Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:23:23 +0000 http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4243 naw. I'll just take buzzword's idea. you know, there's all kinds of crap out there with people buying it, so ... you know ... maybe I'll just invent a new ball game. tongueball or something. four teams playing against each other. there's 20 women on each team. you get the idea. lol. ;) naw. I’ll just take buzzword’s idea. you know, there’s all kinds of crap out there with people buying it, so … you know …

maybe I’ll just invent a new ball game. tongueball or something. four teams playing against each other. there’s 20 women on each team. you get the idea. lol. ;)

]]> By: hitman http://hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4242 hitman Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:16:39 +0000 http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/03/13/i-am-on-g4tv-tonight-7pm-estpst-on-attack-of-the-show/#comment-4242 adult movie? surely you are thinking in our women players of tennis, LOL! :shock: adult movie? surely you are thinking in our women players of tennis, LOL! :shock:

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