Faggot – a bundle of sticks?

A one-word description of myself. Ah, so many choices. Genius, handsome, wealthy. Oh. You wanted honesty? Okay. Let’s go with “intuitive.”

hmm… some of my friends have called me crazy before because of my hyper and fun personality so i’ll pick “crazy” :cool:

In the UK, people use the term “fag” or “faggot” to refer to a cigarette. :shock: How about “Stud?” Why are vertical beams in a wall, male horses meant for breeding, and macho guys called “Studs”?

Ur videos r interesting and i would like to know why “Knife” is spelled this way when the K is silent!

“Fair” Years ago I was refereeing a competition my son was involved in. After the games my boy came up to me and said “Dad you’re fair” thats it. I didn’t feel insulted, but rather proud of him for noticing at a youmg age, my atempt to judge rightly & treat all the kids fairly. Although some may translate fair as being slightly above poor, I guess fair is pretty good.

There is one other definition for faggot as well and that is….. seasoned,chooped,liver backed,boiled,or poached in balls. Hmmmm Liver balls…dumpling soup, good German food that.

In life and work I’m described as “4F” not that I’m flat footed as per the old military term, but I am seen as:

Firm,but Fair,without Fear,or Favouritism

I pass that onto as many people as I can and support it with examples in life as truly as it was passed to me by my dear dad. Works with kids and adults as long as one is true to the mantra.

Well lot’s of people like too choose a word to describe themselves in a good way.
I hate to conform, if everyone goes left, then I go right and if everyone says yes, then my answer is going to be no.
This is not to be annoying or just to disagree. Am not a leader am not a follower, I am the wolf in sheep’s clothing and always will be “Defiant”

Bonjour Marina,
En introduction

Hey!
My friends like to call me a politician, don’t know why. Maybe, because I dress formal or because I’m very polite.
BTW, i thought up a word for you… “dude”. There was one lesson obout guy, so why not make one obout dude.
:wink:

Best word to describe me?

Eclectic

Love love love your podcast. Thanks

Dummy :mad:

Manipulative.
:twisted:

Love the show.

Just wondering if the word fag has the same source. In North America has the same meaning as faggot but in the UK, I believe that a fag refers to a cigarette.

Exuberant is the word that best describe me! Neat show!

Faggots is a traditional dish here in the uk. It’s a meatball liked dish like in south west, in wales and the black country made of meat and offal especially pork. The recipe is pig heart, liver and fatty belly meat or bacon minced together with herbs and breadcrumbs when shaped into balls with a membrane from a pigs abdomen. hmm yummie

The best word to describes me is “Eccentric”

Love the vids keep them coming they are “splendiferous”

My friends in school nicknamed me Quagmier.
Definition: n. 1. Land with a soft, muddy surface. 2. A difficult or precarious situation; a predicament

Hi Marina,

I am having trouble keeping up with your lessons. Do you have time to tutor me?

Thank you,
Phileos33

the word that best describes me is father, Marina can I be your daddy your sugar daddy

in music, “faggot” and various similar words in other languages refers to a bassoon, which physically resembles a couple of sticks. it’s very similar to the oboe, which comes from the french “hautbois”, which means “high (referring to the pitch) wood”.

i love hot for words! and i’d love to know the origin of the expression “pushing the envelope.”

serendipitous

Hmmm still wondering where I go for my report card :)

Did you get my comment on YouTube because it is a no brainer for me too. I think you kinda know that.

Tis my name and nature..

Friend.

Hello Marina,
I found your video on youtube.com by accident. I really like the videos and learn alot from them.
Do you know the origin of my last name Goth as in the word “gothic”?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Sincerely, Mike Goth. Keep up the good work!

Love your show. :mrgreen:
I’m no linguistics expert, but I thought faggot was handed down from small sticks by ways of when they would burn people at the stake. They would burn all sorts for all kinds of things, including homosexuality. Somewhere, I picked up that it was so common that homosexual men were burned that they were referred to as faggots, as in kindling. :cry:
:?: Any thoughts? :?:
Thanks,
Nadine

I have a couple of questions related to this word:

1) Why are cigarettes called “fags?”

2) Some believe that an alternate way that “faggot” came to refer to homosexuals is because homosexuals are condemned by some Christians, and like others who are condemned, they will go to Hell and burn there. Thus, faggots are the “kindling” for Hell, like bundles of sticks that are called faggots are kindling for a fire. Is this an incorrect explanation?

One word to describe me: RATIONAL.
Regards, LLS71

I did not do any plastic surgery legendary. I have high cheek bones because I was born with them. Why do you keep asking that question all over the site? I’m 27 years old.. I’m sorry if I don’t look that good to you.. but it’s also not polite to keep asking the same question all over the site.

here we go again …

well, I guess he’s not asking because of your cheek bones …

legendary,
I know I keep asking this question … but, what does it matter?

the one word that i think describes me best is…. brevity, because it’s concise.

Hi Marina,

Just love your site :grin:

Faggot is also an English food, a bit like a ball of meatloaf made of pork?

Just wondered where this fits into the word story?

Keep up the good work :grin:

I got it. MANLY

yours!

The word that would best describe me would be pensive

I guess it’s a lil stick you put in your mouth?

Um… :shock:

I’ll never forget the first time I was offered a fag by a Brittish woman. How hilarious! I was in Greece, in the Navy. Topless beech. Good grief, she was so hot…

well it is hard 2 choose a word that will describe me well but if realy have 2 id choose CRAZY :twisted:

Bonjour Marina

The best word that describe me is honest

Thanks for you great work <3

Does anybody else here know the bassoon/faggot connection? In most European music scores for orchestra the bassoon part is listed as “faggot”, which the instrument almost literally is, and it ends with a reed the player sticks in his (or her) mouth.

This is where the name came into the term for homosexual man also.

In the inquisition of Europe, when witches were
being burned, among those sought out for
burning were gay people. They were required to
gather the very “bundles of sticks” (the real
meaning of a faggot) with which they would be
burnt. When the faggots (sticks) were running
out, gay men were thrown on the fire to keep it
going for the witches. Faggot came to mean gay
man to force them into the closet for fear of
death.

Good-hearted would best describe me (hmmm..is that one word or two?)

hmm i think unique would describe me

omnipotent

benevolent

Honest. :grin:

Artistic :roll:

Awesome XD

I don’t know about me, but HFW in 1 word is: INCREDIBLE. :D very nice video!

Yet another word I am curious about. Pugilistic. Where does the word come from. Psychologists seem to feel that a pugilistic mentality is a bad trait to possess; however, is some professions it is best for a person to be physical with their fists!!

HAHAHA something popped in my head “A BUNDLE OF STICKS” you know where im getting at, bunch of gay people “bundle of dicks” hahah

how did it come around that to have a cigarette is said to smoke a fag

creative

You look pretty good for 27 Marina. :cool:

I heard that during a period in time called the “Burning Times” or the Salem Witch Hunts, that when they decided to build the bonfires to burn a suspected witch that they would to save time bywrapping other ‘undesirables’ in a bundle of sticks and toss them on the fire as well these undesirables were commonly homosexuals. Thus the term Faggot stood for Gay males.

:oops: Sorry loserdawg911 and others I guess I should have read a little farther down the comment list.

A word that best describes me and my personality that word would be STRANGE

In Russian: Марина – Ñ‚Ñ‹ супер! молодчина! случайно совсем попала на твой сайт!
In English: Marina – you are the best! i’ve been surfing the i-net and came accross your youtube videos by chance! You are cool!
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p/s i’m a phylologist too and i can describe my personality as PEDANT

i can even describe myself as a phylological pedant :wink: because i love to ‘dig’ deep when investigating the etymology of words.

I’m also can be described as PEDANT when it comes to carry out some assignment – job, hobby.
I’m a Russian too and cannot tell if a word PEDANT has positive or negative connotation. I appreciate the comments on this.
Thank you Marinka! Keep up a good work!

Hi charlizzle,
as a non-native English speaker the word ‘fag’ arouses the following associations in my mind: faggots (a bundle of sticks) -> sticks -> metaphor of shape and form-> cigarretes. Here’s the way my thought developed itself:
So cigarettes can be described as thin cylindrical objects
Sticks can also be described as thin , long objects.
Here’s my thought on this.
I think here is the extension of meaning based on the SHAPE metaphor. :wink:

Sorry for the grammar :oops:

Hi Marinka! Here’s my word request for you.

Is there any (not particularly a linguistic question) relationship between ‘dickens’ :twisted: and the famous novelist?

And if it comes that the morpheme ‘son’ in the surnames is describing the relation to some family,being one’s son, so why is there such a surname as ‘dickenson’??? :idea: sounds a bit terrifying…. :eek:

p/s i’m a phylologist too, got a degree :smile:
i can describe my personality as PEDANT

i can even call myself a phylological pedant :lol: because i love to ‘dig’ deep when investigating the etymology of words.

I’m also can be described as PEDANT when it comes to carry out some assignment – job, some art work etc.

I’m a Russian too and as a non-native speaker of English cannot tell if a word PEDANT has positive or negative connotation. I appreciate the comments on this.
Thank you Marinka! Keep up a good work!

EJACULATION

I’d probably have to say that I am… observant. I notice a lot of things others usually don’t see. :mrgreen:

Stoic

Wow knew faggot was ever used in reference to a woman? That’s a strange history for a word. And damn that white dress is sexy, like the stuff hotforprofits wears.

humorous

:lol: “… are you stiil with Me?” … why yes, of course. No reason not to be.
i’m still “Fair”… which is good… really.

God, im so glad i found your site.

Is faggot related to the latin fasces (meaning a bundle of sticks used to symbolize power in the Roman Senate) from which fascist is derived?

Hi, Marina…I would be described as perspicacious. There’s a word for you!
Dave

It was hard to pick just one word but this is the only one that came to mind. Incredawesomelywonderful.

Thank you Marina, for being you.

My guess would be that the reason for carrying around the bundle of sticks is because you were gathering them for kindling or firewood – a cigarette is a burning little stick?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickens,_Texas

Interesting to me that a bundle of sticks that was a chore and a burden to carry – morphed into a feminine connotation and description referring to a wife! :eek: :shock:

More recently, men have refered to their wives or girlfriends (affectionately of course) as a ‘ball and chain’…

Even Elvis had a take on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk9UC8EoyIg

Are these truly a comment on relationships – or more a complaint denoting disappointment in the expectations unfulfilled in them?

What are the time honored sayings, words, or sentiments that women have come up with for some similar feelings about Men?

‘My Knight in shining Armor’, & ‘Mr. Wonderful’ are the only ones that comes to mind… :grin: …there must be others…but being a guy, I probably block them out sub-consciously… :lol:

These lessons are indeed interesting, educational, and thought provoking…

Did I hear someone mention my name?
^___ White Knight in Shining Armor. :lol:
Yes, I am Mr Wonderful.
Hey, that’s what she said.

:lol: LMAO!

I guess that saying MUST be talking about you!…I didn’t put that together…

What’s that other old saying? ‘If the Gravitar fits…’

[gregarious]

That’s an easy one, a pitbull.

Being a pitbull is both a blessing and a curse.
Once i set a goal, i really sink my teeth in it and don’t let go until that goal is reached :twisted: .
But this can also mean that some silly thing that don’t really matter, takes up a lot of time :oops:
http://www.agmates.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/pitbull-1-x-450.jpg

INDUSTRIOUS :razz: INDVIDUALISTICALLY-EQUILIBRANT…[equipoise]…

some lesson in the future—Marina, Herbert Hoover, “Rugged Individualism Speech”

In the English language, the word “individualism” was first introduced, as a pejorative, by the Owenites in the 1830s, although it is unclear if they were influenced by Saint-Simonianism or came up with it independently.[1] A more positive use of the term in Britain came to be used with the writings of James Elishama Smith, who was a millenarian and a Christian Israelite. Although an early Owenite socialist, he eventually rejected its collective idea of property, and found in individualism a “universalism” that allowed for the development of the “original genius.” Without individualism, Smith argued, individuals cannot amass property to increase one’s happiness.

not the FBI “bundled dictator(law&order-dictator)Hoover”

… :razz: [rug] :smile:

Hoover-craft is the new-deal democracy-_-_-_-New-Age of plastic inforcing anti-HEMP and “”"setting up “”"the police stopping farmers”"” from creating [CAPITALISM]_________Hoover the cop died during NIXON time and was given power during OLD -Man…Kennedy scams…legalize back—[HEMP]____love

hey marina,
you forgot the other meaning for [faggot] which means a cigarette in Europe, Right? Or is it a [Fag]?

There is one word that sums me up pretty succinctly…Stinky!

:mrgreen: